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1.12 req. add lurker hold button w/o overlord.

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Aerox
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Malaysia1213 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-02-10 07:35:49
February 09 2005 04:00 GMT
#1
And also to fix the scourge AI, can scourge AI be fixed? Hopefully, coz I really hate the scourge unpredictably turning while slowing down before bumping into the unit. Maybe need increase the accel. Damn, it seems to be all zerg. The only reason not to implement these fixes would seem to be bcoz zerg are winning a lot these days which isn't a good reason at all.

But anyway, I think the other races have their own optimization/convenience fixes but I can't seem to put my finger on them. I remembered there was another but non-zerg one. I can't seem to remember what it really is.

For those who are about to request obvious balance changes, Bliz has confirmed that there'll be NO BALANCE CHANGES for 1.12. So, don't waste your breath, kids.

EDIT: So far we have...
1. Fix lurker to have hold button feature without use of overlords.(or remove the bug itself.)
2. Fix scourge AI of slowing down before ramming.
3. Prevent change of allegiance midgame to prevent allied mines.
4. Dragoon AI has problem too?(saw this at bnet forums)
5. Fix lurker doing double damage at death.
6. Reaver/Scarab AI?(Seems fine for me.)
7. Goliath AI?(This also seems fine for me)
8. Observer over turret
"Eyes in the sky."
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
February 09 2005 04:02 GMT
#2
i agree with the scourge part. toss unit ai always gets all the attention but scourge is just as bad if not worse
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Famouzze
Profile Joined June 2004
971 Posts
February 09 2005 04:03 GMT
#3
personally i just hope it makes storm kill lurks in one hit again, pvz is totally imbalanced now. there's no way for toss to counter lurker/scourge. we need storm to kill lurks or comsat or something else.
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
February 09 2005 04:07 GMT
#4
On February 09 2005 13:03 Famouzze wrote:
personally i just hope it makes storm kill lurks in one hit again, pvz is totally imbalanced now. there's no way for toss to counter lurker/scourge. we need storm to kill lurks or comsat or something else.

ur gonna make fa go off again
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SCFraser
Profile Joined May 2003
Canada1534 Posts
February 09 2005 04:08 GMT
#5
how about storm leaving a trace on enemy units, like ensnare, that shows cloaked units
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hasuwar
Profile Joined April 2003
7365 Posts
February 09 2005 04:17 GMT
#6
You idiot, there's no hold posistion button, because the LURKER CAN ONLY HOLD POSISTION. it's fucking burrowed, it cannot move. That shit with the overlord is a BUG
Diablo3 ID: Exalted#1710 -------R.I.P. http://hasuwar.isgsa.org. Much love to Toptalent
Cresfy
Profile Joined April 2003
Israel977 Posts
February 09 2005 04:17 GMT
#7
not gonna be helpful considering ensnare doesnt work on burrowed units
jtan
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Sweden5891 Posts
February 09 2005 04:28 GMT
#8
I know most people disagree but

Lurkerhold is as bad as allied mines imo
Enter a Uh
jtan
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Sweden5891 Posts
February 09 2005 04:30 GMT
#9
On February 09 2005 13:03 Famouzze wrote:
personally i just hope it makes storm kill lurks in one hit again, pvz is totally imbalanced now. there's no way for toss to counter lurker/scourge. we need storm to kill lurks or comsat or something else.

Oh plz....no more imbal speeches.
If you think pvz is unfair, stop playing P.
Enter a Uh
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4116 Posts
February 09 2005 04:31 GMT
#10
maybe protoss scout should be observer also(why the hell its name is scout ,when he is too slow for scouting:-))
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HeavenS
Profile Joined August 2004
Colombia2259 Posts
February 09 2005 04:36 GMT
#11
On February 09 2005 13:17 hasuwar wrote:
You idiot, there's no hold posistion button, because the LURKER CAN ONLY HOLD POSISTION. it's fucking burrowed, it cannot move. That shit with the overlord is a BUG


Do u have to be such a dick when u post? Stop being a faggot and start posting things in a better manner..get your dick out your ass. Capitalizing your words makes you seem like a fucking idiot...how bout showing some respect and leave the insults up ur ass.
Im cooler than the other side of the pillow.
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
February 09 2005 04:38 GMT
#12
On February 09 2005 13:36 eG)HeavenS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2005 13:17 hasuwar wrote:
You idiot, there's no hold posistion button, because the LURKER CAN ONLY HOLD POSISTION. it's fucking burrowed, it cannot move. That shit with the overlord is a BUG


Do u have to be such a dick when u post? Stop being a faggot and start posting things in a better manner..get your dick out your ass. Capitalizing your words makes you seem like a fucking idiot...how bout showing some respect and leave the insults up ur ass.

respect what... hes right
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hasuwar
Profile Joined April 2003
7365 Posts
February 09 2005 04:43 GMT
#13
On February 09 2005 13:36 eG)HeavenS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2005 13:17 hasuwar wrote:
You idiot, there's no hold posistion button, because the LURKER CAN ONLY HOLD POSISTION. it's fucking burrowed, it cannot move. That shit with the overlord is a BUG


Do u have to be such a dick when u post? Stop being a faggot and start posting things in a better manner..get your dick out your ass. Capitalizing your words makes you seem like a fucking idiot...how bout showing some respect and leave the insults up ur ass.
You can take your manner, wad it up into a nice little ball, and shove it up your ass. The caps show emphasis, do you know what that means? I've seen so many topics about this, and so many people thinking that that stupid ass bug is a special game feature, and then complain about allied mines. It's bullshit. Don't ever reply to me again
Diablo3 ID: Exalted#1710 -------R.I.P. http://hasuwar.isgsa.org. Much love to Toptalent
HeavenS
Profile Joined August 2004
Colombia2259 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-02-09 04:48:12
February 09 2005 04:47 GMT
#14
On February 09 2005 13:43 hasuwar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2005 13:36 eG)HeavenS wrote:
On February 09 2005 13:17 hasuwar wrote:
You idiot, there's no hold posistion button, because the LURKER CAN ONLY HOLD POSISTION. it's fucking burrowed, it cannot move. That shit with the overlord is a BUG


Do u have to be such a dick when u post? Stop being a faggot and start posting things in a better manner..get your dick out your ass. Capitalizing your words makes you seem like a fucking idiot...how bout showing some respect and leave the insults up ur ass.
You can take your manner, wad it up into a nice little ball, and shove it up your ass. The caps show emphasis, do you know what that means? I've seen so many topics about this, and so many people thinking that that stupid ass bug is a special game feature, and then complain about allied mines. It's bullshit. Don't ever reply to me again


Sorry buddy i dont roll that way..im not into sticking shit up my ass like you might be. Oh and by the way.. theres an italics button...u can click on that to "emphasize" whatever it is u need to without insulting people because they dont know something. Pathetic fuck. If you reply to me...Your Gay.
Im cooler than the other side of the pillow.
Hippopotamus
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
1914 Posts
February 09 2005 04:52 GMT
#15
Is holding lurkers like making it so they don't attack as soon as they see? So attacking a building in fog of war... pressing stop like a madman, and pressing hold position while you have ovie selected with lurkers?
HeavenS
Profile Joined August 2004
Colombia2259 Posts
February 09 2005 04:54 GMT
#16
yep..if u have a lurker along with an ovi selected and u press hold, the lurker wont attack until u tell it to.
Im cooler than the other side of the pillow.
Aerox
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Malaysia1213 Posts
February 09 2005 04:54 GMT
#17
On February 09 2005 13:17 hasuwar wrote:
You idiot, there's no hold posistion button, because the LURKER CAN ONLY HOLD POSISTION. it's fucking burrowed, it cannot move. That shit with the overlord is a BUG


Well, many players are using it legally and traditionally has become a feature of the Lurker. It has that zerg ambush feel to it. So maybe it can be added. >=)

Well, for allied mines. The problem is allowing players to change alliance midgame. Therefore, players shouldn't be allowed to change alliance in-game. Alright, we got another nice fix required for 1.12.
"Eyes in the sky."
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-02-09 04:58:00
February 09 2005 04:55 GMT
#18
On February 09 2005 13:03 Famouzze wrote:
personally i just hope it makes storm kill lurks in one hit again, pvz is totally imbalanced now. there's no way for toss to counter lurker/scourge. we need storm to kill lurks or comsat or something else.

You suck.
P's win on good maps.
Give reach 1 hit KO storm and he'll never ever lose a PvZ again.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
SCFraser
Profile Joined May 2003
Canada1534 Posts
February 09 2005 04:55 GMT
#19
On February 09 2005 13:17 Cresfy wrote:
not gonna be helpful considering ensnare doesnt work on burrowed units


ya but storm does...
so if storm left a trace like ensnare, it would affect burrowed units
I want something good to die for, to make it beautiful to live.
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
February 09 2005 04:57 GMT
#20
On February 09 2005 13:54 eG)HeavenS wrote:
yep..if u have a lurker along with an ovi selected and u press hold, the lurker wont attack until u tell it to.

Or you can click attack on a building under fog of war.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
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