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Veigh
Profile Joined November 2003
Netherlands300 Posts
December 12 2004 05:00 GMT
#21
Of course the scout...but i think the BC's comes as a proud second, especially in cost-effectiveness
Mirror matchups are imbalanced by definition
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17022 Posts
December 12 2004 05:01 GMT
#22
I'd say Drone. I mean, who uses Drones anyway?



I'd have to say Broodling too, though sometimes it's useful to Broodling a Templar. Devourers rank up there too, but I'm sticking with Broodling.
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EnDeR_
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Spain2777 Posts
December 12 2004 05:06 GMT
#23
On December 12 2004 14:01 This-is-not-a-smurf wrote:
I'd say Drone. I mean, who uses Drones anyway?



I'd have to say Broodling too, though sometimes it's useful to Broodling a Templar. Devourers rank up there too, but I'm sticking with Broodling.


I guess you've never battled a host of sairs, have you?
Without devourers, zerg air is so fucking weak...
estás más desubicao q un croissant en un plato de nécoras
Beast_Bg
Profile Joined October 2002
Bulgaria1623 Posts
December 12 2004 05:06 GMT
#24
The scout is NEARLY useless at the current state of the game.

Whoever said DAs obviously has no vision of the game whatsoever.Feedback and Mind Control are actually overpowered.The DA is the spellcaster killer + the perfect counter for expensive units -Mind Control.Maelstrom is a bit tricky to use ,but can be efficient in some situations.When fighting air and ultras for example.
MadFrog : In my opinion, the biggest reason why WC3 is dying is because it is not such a great game as Brood War is.
Famouzze
Profile Joined June 2004
971 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-12-12 05:14:07
December 12 2004 05:10 GMT
#25
On December 12 2004 14:06 Beast_Bg wrote:
The scout is NEARLY useless at the current state of the game.

Whoever said DAs obviously has no vision of the game whatsoever.Feedback and Mind Control are actually overpowered.The DA is the spellcaster killer + the perfect counter for expensive units -Mind Control.Maelstrom is a bit tricky to use ,but can be efficient in some situations.When fighting air and ultras for example.


hahaha...i'd be willing to 1:1 you and show you how much vision i have, and maybe even win without using DAs

you play terran right? you're telling me you find yourself fearing DAs as the protoss unit? mael owning your tanks? or is it the dreaded MC an SCV and build a fleet of wraiths?

edit: i did say mael has some uses in pvz, and same with feedback, but its incredibly hard, or at least harder than it should be, to make it cost effective...it can be used very well but its so expensive a unit for such a small window of effectiveness....anyway...i'd love to see u back up that "no vision of the game whatsoever" claim in 1:1...this from the guy who just got owned in europe vs americas and is well known as the WCG pure-luck wonderchild...rofl.
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
December 12 2004 05:24 GMT
#26
On December 12 2004 13:55 HowitZer wrote:
It's gotta be broodling. I'd love to see a replay where someone used broodling to change a game.


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On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
weedlover
Profile Joined June 2004
Greece174 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-12-12 05:31:53
December 12 2004 05:27 GMT
#27
I ll agree with Manifesto7 that there is actually no "worst unit" in this game as its perfect. ill explain this as to some units mentioned as worst units. Broodlings, broodlings can be used to kill instantly High Templars also you could use em to kill some workers of your opponent. Scouts, scouts are really good air units. Dark archons, it has great spells. scourge??? are u kidding me??? everyone uses scourges and they are very effective in air and in killing observers. you all knew that but i wanted to show you that all the units in this game are important, there is not an uneccesary unit thus not a worst unit, they are all good. :list
GOSU:one with godlike starcraft abilities with the inference that the individual`s sex life suffers as a result.Derives from god of sc universe.
A3iL3r0n
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States2196 Posts
December 12 2004 05:47 GMT
#28
Infested Terran is the worst unit, followed by the Scout but both can be used effectively. The situations that come up where they can be effective are so limited that this is why they are the worst.
My psychiatrist says I have deep-seated Ragneuroses :(
Destroyer
Profile Joined October 2002
Czech Republic937 Posts
December 12 2004 05:49 GMT
#29
Infested Terran is total own unit, only problem is to make him
never too old for starcraft :)
MiniRoman
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Canada3953 Posts
December 12 2004 05:50 GMT
#30
Carriers.

Only newbs need them. They suck with the Goliath range improvement and Zerg > carriers.
Nak Allstar.
Vashp2
Profile Joined November 2004
63 Posts
December 12 2004 05:51 GMT
#31
IDK... i don''t think there're "worst" units... but ther're better units than other... just should know how to use them each one
oPtioNaLk
Profile Joined September 2004
Korea (South)564 Posts
December 12 2004 05:53 GMT
#32
Valkyries are probably the most useless. Their separate rocket fire gets owned by armor ups.
MiniRoman
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Canada3953 Posts
December 12 2004 05:55 GMT
#33
On December 12 2004 14:10 Famouzze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2004 14:06 Beast_Bg wrote:
The scout is NEARLY useless at the current state of the game.

Whoever said DAs obviously has no vision of the game whatsoever.Feedback and Mind Control are actually overpowered.The DA is the spellcaster killer + the perfect counter for expensive units -Mind Control.Maelstrom is a bit tricky to use ,but can be efficient in some situations.When fighting air and ultras for example.


hahaha...i'd be willing to 1:1 you and show you how much vision i have, and maybe even win without using DAs

you play terran right? you're telling me you find yourself fearing DAs as the protoss unit? mael owning your tanks? or is it the dreaded MC an SCV and build a fleet of wraiths?

edit: i did say mael has some uses in pvz, and same with feedback, but its incredibly hard, or at least harder than it should be, to make it cost effective...it can be used very well but its so expensive a unit for such a small window of effectiveness....anyway...i'd love to see u back up that "no vision of the game whatsoever" claim in 1:1...this from the guy who just got owned in europe vs americas and is well known as the WCG pure-luck wonderchild...rofl.


Are you fucking serious? Beast will slap you upside the face with his penis so hard you will be crying Bulgarian sperm for weeks.


I've seen you say some pretty stupid things over the week but this takes the fucking cake.
Nak Allstar.
8882
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
2718 Posts
December 12 2004 05:57 GMT
#34
blind observer I think
infested terrans could have 80hp
archons/queens could be change a bit
scouts could cost a little bit less
I have returned
RoTaNiMoD
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States558 Posts
December 12 2004 05:57 GMT
#35
Not that they are useless or worst, but as far as very rarely being used and having few situations where they are useful, Battlecruiser and Scout.

BCs almost never pop up outside TvT and if they were gone, neither side in the TvT can use them. Though it IS the prime way to get out of deadlocks in TvT....

Scouts are just rarely good in general.
pfff
Profile Joined May 2004
Belgium1352 Posts
December 12 2004 05:59 GMT
#36
i dont know, i always thought some good player might own pvz with ensnare and parasite, but then i thought about how hard da would own queens.
if queens were used more da might be more usefull, if there would be no da, queens might be used more, now none of them are used
It ain’t no sin to be glad you’re alive
Taguchi
Profile Joined February 2003
Greece1575 Posts
December 12 2004 06:05 GMT
#37
that valkyrie holding position while shooting is terrible-_- if u cannot micro it, whats the point in today's broodwar
plus last time i mixed 4 valks with my 30 wraiths vs my opponents ~40 wraiths the valks bugged and never fired a single shot(too many sprites for them eh? screw them i say!)

so id give the valkyrie the worst unit award
Great minds might think alike, but fastest hands rule the day~
RedMeat
Profile Joined September 2002
United Kingdom490 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-12-12 06:12:09
December 12 2004 06:10 GMT
#38
Oh come on, who's counting broodlings which are a byproduct of killings tanks and templar etc, why not count mind-controlled critters if you're going to do that :/. Infested terrans are shite but they are also a byproduct of knocking a lot of hitpoints of a command centre so they aren't really the point of infesting anyways. Scout is worst obviously but there's other units that have virtually no useful role like ghosts and arbiters (okay arbiters are nice but the build time and tech required means it's only worth going for them one game in a hundred and likewise once in a lifetime you'll need ghosts to win). Dark archon and queen have their flaws but they are at least useable in a fair number of games if you're playing against the right strategies/units.
I am the mirror, I am the destiny, I am the herald that points the way...
baal
Profile Joined March 2003
10541 Posts
December 12 2004 06:11 GMT
#39
scout no doubt about it.
Im back, in pog form!
ieatkids5
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States4628 Posts
December 12 2004 06:12 GMT
#40
On December 12 2004 13:51 evanthebouncy wrote:
Firebats...
they are rarely used after MnM proved to be so useful

Firebats > Zerg
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