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On October 24 2010 15:59 darmousseh wrote:
There is no argument here. Blizzard owns the IP copyright and they are allowed to control it's broadcasting. Blizzard not enforcing it for a couple years doesn't mean they still don't own it. Imagine how pissed disney would get if some company went around selling micky mouse stuff for 10 years and then claimed that they owned it since they built a community around it for 10 years. 10 years is a short time and time doesn't matter anyway when it comes to this stuff. Yes kespa helped sc1 become popular, but they did it without the blessing of blizzard and when blizzard came to give them their blessing for a price, they refused and even cancled gretech stuff by forcing the players to not participate.
Blizzard will win, no matter what anyone thinks.
maybe, but i can still call them bastards :/
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Hope they get their ass kicked.
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On October 24 2010 15:02 gozima wrote:
The popularity of BW in Korea is stifling sales of SC2 there. Blizzard doesn't give a fuck about e-sports, they make money by selling games, not hosting tournaments.
They probably saw what Boxer in GSL did to spur interest in SC2 in Korea, and decided that getting Flash, JD, and crew to switch over to SC2 asap was in their best interest.
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IMHO, without the popularity and sales of SC1 (due in large part to Korea, MBC, and OGN) there would have been no WoW, no Mega-Monster Blizzard and no SC2 as we know it today. It can all be traced back to SC1, Korea, Boxer and the big channels.
Blizzard owes a lot to pro gaming in Korea, and this is a shitty way to repay them. All to forcibly bolster SC2. Because this is 100% correct:
They probably saw what Boxer in GSL did to spur interest in SC2 in Korea, and decided that getting Flash, JD, and crew to switch over to SC2 asap was in their best interest.
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On October 24 2010 15:02 gozima wrote:
The popularity of BW in Korea is stifling sales of SC2 there. Blizzard doesn't give a fuck about e-sports, they make money by selling games, not hosting tournaments.
They probably saw what Boxer in GSL did to spur interest in SC2 in Korea, and decided that getting Flash, JD, and crew to switch over to SC2 asap was in their best interest.
Pretty much sums up Activision-Blizzard.
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Its time for everyone to switch to sc2 now. Don't fight the inevitable.
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On October 24 2010 17:12 vnlegend wrote:
Its time for everyone to switch to sc2 now. Don't fight the inevitable.
yeeeeeeaaa.. no
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On October 24 2010 17:04 Ryo wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2010 15:02 gozima wrote:
The popularity of BW in Korea is stifling sales of SC2 there. Blizzard doesn't give a fuck about e-sports, they make money by selling games, not hosting tournaments.
They probably saw what Boxer in GSL did to spur interest in SC2 in Korea, and decided that getting Flash, JD, and crew to switch over to SC2 asap was in their best interest. Pretty much sums up Activision-Blizzard.
Pretty much sums up capitalism.
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On October 24 2010 17:18 Nitan wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2010 17:04 Ryo wrote:On October 24 2010 15:02 gozima wrote:
The popularity of BW in Korea is stifling sales of SC2 there. Blizzard doesn't give a fuck about e-sports, they make money by selling games, not hosting tournaments.
They probably saw what Boxer in GSL did to spur interest in SC2 in Korea, and decided that getting Flash, JD, and crew to switch over to SC2 asap was in their best interest. Pretty much sums up Activision-Blizzard. Pretty much sums up capitalism.
Er no.
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On October 24 2010 17:18 Nitan wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2010 17:04 Ryo wrote:On October 24 2010 15:02 gozima wrote:
The popularity of BW in Korea is stifling sales of SC2 there. Blizzard doesn't give a fuck about e-sports, they make money by selling games, not hosting tournaments.
They probably saw what Boxer in GSL did to spur interest in SC2 in Korea, and decided that getting Flash, JD, and crew to switch over to SC2 asap was in their best interest. Pretty much sums up Activision-Blizzard. Pretty much sums up capitalism.
Doing something well and doing something badly can both be attributed to capitalism. I understand you are trying to be cynical, but this is one of the worst ways this could be resolved and they willingly chose to do it. Might have been a long term disaster, which at least I don't know. The imminent effects can be seen here in this thread, and most of us were huge Blizzard fans.
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On October 24 2010 17:22 Ryo wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2010 17:18 Nitan wrote:On October 24 2010 17:04 Ryo wrote:On October 24 2010 15:02 gozima wrote:
The popularity of BW in Korea is stifling sales of SC2 there. Blizzard doesn't give a fuck about e-sports, they make money by selling games, not hosting tournaments.
They probably saw what Boxer in GSL did to spur interest in SC2 in Korea, and decided that getting Flash, JD, and crew to switch over to SC2 asap was in their best interest. Pretty much sums up Activision-Blizzard. Pretty much sums up capitalism. Er no.
Err yes.
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Couldn't Kespa just stall this and keep broadcasting while they are taking this to court? They don't have to stop broadcast until the court decided it to be illegal and this case could go on for years... or am I wrong here?
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On October 24 2010 15:02 gozima wrote:
The popularity of BW in Korea is stifling sales of SC2 there. Blizzard doesn't give a fuck about e-sports, they make money by selling games, not hosting tournaments.
They probably saw what Boxer in GSL did to spur interest in SC2 in Korea, and decided that getting Flash, JD, and crew to switch over to SC2 asap was in their best interest.
This post sums up everything about Activision-Blizzard in current terms PERFECTLY. Blizzard is shooting themselves in the foot in the PR department by doing this.
Would you really tarnish, or even destroy, your reputation just to promote one of many games that you have produced? Greed is blinding you, Blizzard, and it is not helping us as fans of the Starcraft universe, whether it be BW or SC2.
It disgusts me to see a photo of the Blizzard higher-ups posing with Boxer himself, the founder of BW e-sports. Boxer, please, I want to hear your comments on this, on the threatening reality that your brainchild, the BW proscene, is dying.
To what end would greed grow to, and for what means?
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***News flash***
ActiBlizzard shuts down sc2 for diablo 3..ActiBlizzard announced today that SC2 is taking up too many broadcast time slots and is in direct competition with dialblo 3 HERO arena. Henceforth, the transition of all current pro sc2 gamers will begin to the new game. Please look forward to it.
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On October 24 2010 11:05 jayGroove wrote:
It appeared that many koreans in the Internet, opinions are almost like these.
"Blizzard did nothing good to Korean BW scene. They have no rights to interfere KeSPA whatever KeSPA or OGN / MBC use BW to earn money."
"Both KeSPA / Blizzard are greedy companies. Even if copyright law is clear, you guys don't supposed to support Blizzard. Because Blizzard tried to kill BW Professional scene."
"We do not support KeSPA because they have been always messing around BW scene in a wrong way when they elected Shin-Bae Kim as 2nd President of KeSPA. but we support BW players and pro-teams of KeSPA. We hope that this issue solved quickly."
"Why KeSPA keep reusing Blizzard as a superior position. Blizzard made BW after all. BW is not a "public good" as KeSPA said. Dumb KeSPA! We want to see KeSPA fall and dissapper in e-sports." etc.
As I mentioned above, many people in the Internet criticize KeSPA what they do wrong. Some people hate Blizzard because it seems that Blizzard tried to kill BW scene. There are not so much people support KeSPA or OGN/MBC at this time. They just want BW scene alive in SK. It's clear to say many people are not supporters of Blizzard or KeSPA. Just criticize KeSPA or hate Blizzard.
Another interview comes from FOMOS. it said that Blizzard "We still have a interest in SC1","We will not stop supporting BW scene"
Interview (10.24.10)
It's korean. I'm sorry...
Now, this is a much better position on the whole thing than the absolutely inane Kespa worship that's so common around here
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On October 24 2010 18:03 Integra wrote:
Couldn't Kespa just stall this and keep broadcasting while they are taking this to court? They don't have to stop broadcast until the court decided it to be illegal and this case could go on for years... or am I wrong here?
Normally yes, but Blizzard is going to try to get an injunction.
It is the last thing we can do at this point. Its our last option. We will sue MBCgame in a few days and Ongamenet could get sued as well. We are preparring for the dispute and will request preliminary injunction to stop broadcasting.
Assuming they do, and that a judge signs off on it (which could be a big assumption), it would mean no more BW (until the injunction is dropped or Blizzard loses their case in court). If that happens, even if they lose the case a year later there won't be anything left to salvage since no televised BW will lead to all the teams disbanding.
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On October 24 2010 18:11 moopie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2010 18:03 Integra wrote:
Couldn't Kespa just stall this and keep broadcasting while they are taking this to court? They don't have to stop broadcast until the court decided it to be illegal and this case could go on for years... or am I wrong here? Normally yes, but Blizzard is going to try to get an injunction. Show nested quote +It is the last thing we can do at this point. Its our last option. We will sue MBCgame in a few days and Ongamenet could get sued as well. We are preparring for the dispute and will request preliminary injunction to stop broadcasting. Assuming they do, and that a judge signs off on it (which could be a big assumption), it would mean no more BW (until the injunction is dropped or Blizzard loses their case in court). If that happens, even if they lose the case a year later there won't be anything left to salvage since no televised BW will lead to all the teams disbanding.
Someone on TL mentioned that injunctions regarding IP rights in Korea work a little differently from that. I can't remember what was said.
Anyway, at this pt, just wait and see I guess. I doubt MBC/Kespa weren't prepared for this.
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On October 24 2010 17:00 cursor wrote:
IMHO, without the popularity and sales of SC1 (due in large part to Korea, MBC, and OGN) there would have been no WoW, no Mega-Monster Blizzard and no SC2 as we know it today. It can all be traced back to SC1, Korea, Boxer and the big channels.
A good chunk of Blizzard's fame comes from SC, that may be true. The other franchises, however, did just as much and probably even more, since both Diablo 1/2 and especially WarCraft 3 appeal to a much more casual crowd and thus to more players (compared to the more "hardcore" SC).
I'm certain there would have been a WoW even without SC's success in Korea. Saying that Blizzard/SC2 are only what they are now because of Korea, Boxer and Esports-TV channels dramatically overrates the importance of SC progaming.
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On October 24 2010 19:11 Shockk wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2010 17:00 cursor wrote:
IMHO, without the popularity and sales of SC1 (due in large part to Korea, MBC, and OGN) there would have been no WoW, no Mega-Monster Blizzard and no SC2 as we know it today. It can all be traced back to SC1, Korea, Boxer and the big channels. A good chunk of Blizzard's fame comes from SC, that may be true. The other franchises, however, did just as much and probably even more, since both Diablo 1/2 and especially WarCraft 3 appeal to a much more casual crowd and thus to more players (compared to the more "hardcore" SC). I'm certain there would have been a WoW even without SC's success in Korea. Saying that Blizzard/SC2 are only what they are now because of Korea, Boxer and Esports-TV channels dramatically overrates the importance of SC progaming.
Starcraft gave blizzard the reputation of making the closest to perfect balanced game.
And starcraft is perfectly viable for casual play, go lan with your friends who only played vs the computer and suddenly a d+ can have tonse of fun by 1v3¨'ing your friends just because they are that bad and can only beat the computer =)
I played casually starcraft for 3-4 years before ever watching boxer vids on youtube...
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Go go blizzard! BEST company ever :D <3
+ Show Spoiler +I wonder how many people got pissed off by this post
On serious note: people don't give Blizzard enough credit for their work
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