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XsebT
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Denmark2980 Posts
October 12 2010 18:17 GMT
#81
Money.
화이팅
jpak
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States5045 Posts
October 12 2010 18:20 GMT
#82
Good thing I didn't buy SC2.
CJ Entusman #50! #1 클템 fan TL!
XsebT
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Denmark2980 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-12 18:21:29
October 12 2010 18:20 GMT
#83
On October 13 2010 03:14 robertdinh wrote:
I seem to remember people adamantly claiming that effort didn't retire to play sc2.

His coach that is. Furthermore, playing SC2 doesn't mean he is gonna make a career of it. It all comes down to what he wants with his life which nobody knows except himself.
화이팅
StarcraftMan
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada507 Posts
October 12 2010 18:21 GMT
#84
On October 13 2010 03:14 robertdinh wrote:
I seem to remember people adamantly claiming that effort didn't retire to play sc2.


Because they were deniers. Many of these posters that denied Effort switching to SC2 also denied the Nada rumours, the Boxer rumours, and the JulyZerg rumours.

If these deniers had used their common sense, they would realize that a top 3 BW Pro (yes, I rank Effort as top 3 after Flash and Jaedong) that is making at least $100K a year (maybe Effort was making even $200K or more?), doesn't leave that comfortable salary and job for nothing.

Effort didn't want to milk his salary and winnings in BW to the end and sacrificed it to get a head start in SC2. Kudos to him and I hope he does well in GSL3.
robertdinh
Profile Joined June 2010
803 Posts
October 12 2010 18:22 GMT
#85
On October 13 2010 03:20 XsebT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2010 03:14 robertdinh wrote:
I seem to remember people adamantly claiming that effort didn't retire to play sc2.

His coach that is. Furthermore, playing SC2 doesn't mean is gonna make a career of it. It all comes down to what he wants with his life and nobody knows.


You are pretty silly. He retired because he wanted to do other things with his life other than pro-gaming, yet if that rumor is true and he is even practicing sc2 at any significant level, it was obviously a flakey cop out excuse to retire and then turn around to get into sc2.
True skill comes without effort.
infinity2k9
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom2397 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-12 18:24:16
October 12 2010 18:22 GMT
#86
On October 13 2010 03:21 StarcraftMan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2010 03:14 robertdinh wrote:
I seem to remember people adamantly claiming that effort didn't retire to play sc2.


Because they were deniers. Many of these posters that denied Effort switching to SC2 also denied the Nada rumours, the Boxer rumours, and the JulyZerg rumours.

If these deniers had used their common sense, they would realize that a top 3 BW Pro (yes, I rank Effort as top 3 after Flash and Jaedong) that is making at least $100K a year (maybe Effort was making even $200K or more?), doesn't leave that comfortable salary and job for nothing.

Effort didn't want to milk his salary and winnings in BW to the end and sacrificed it to get a head start in SC2. Kudos to him and I hope he does well in GSL3.


Um they denied it because he said specifically he wasn't pursuing a career in SC2.

My thoughts on the European company trying to sponsor someone is that it'd probably a shortsighted move... a few years down the line or less when the popularity of pro SC2 inevitably dwindles outside of Korea, what reason would the company have for continued sponsorship.
robertdinh
Profile Joined June 2010
803 Posts
October 12 2010 18:23 GMT
#87
On October 13 2010 03:22 infinity2k9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2010 03:21 StarcraftMan wrote:
On October 13 2010 03:14 robertdinh wrote:
I seem to remember people adamantly claiming that effort didn't retire to play sc2.


Because they were deniers. Many of these posters that denied Effort switching to SC2 also denied the Nada rumours, the Boxer rumours, and the JulyZerg rumours.

If these deniers had used their common sense, they would realize that a top 3 BW Pro (yes, I rank Effort as top 3 after Flash and Jaedong) that is making at least $100K a year (maybe Effort was making even $200K or more?), doesn't leave that comfortable salary and job for nothing.

Effort didn't want to milk his salary and winnings in BW to the end and sacrificed it to get a head start in SC2. Kudos to him and I hope he does well in GSL3.


Um they denied it because he said specifically he wasn't pursuing a career in SC2.


Actually his coach said that, but sorta like tester and cool wanted to chill and just have fun right? Then they make a new team shortly after leaving ogs.
True skill comes without effort.
MangoTango
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States3670 Posts
October 12 2010 18:24 GMT
#88


This is horrible.
"One fish, two fish, red fish, BLUE TANK!" - Artosis
[N3O]r3d33m3r
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany673 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-12 18:25:57
October 12 2010 18:24 GMT
#89
good now even the biggest doubters know that this is the end of broodwar.
looking forward to sc2 world domiantion!

@StarcraftMan: this man speaks the truth^^
dtz
Profile Joined September 2010
5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-12 18:29:03
October 12 2010 18:27 GMT
#90
if a person as succesful as effort actually left the bw scene to play sc2, i guess we underestimate how bad the living conditions were for these pros, much less the practice partners and B-teamers. Practice partners even has to eat the less nice food and do errands in the training house. It was something similar to slavery it seems and even if you initially loved the game and do it for the passion, at some point, they were probably sick of it.

I am guessing that effort wish for a change in environment was the reason for the switch. I doubt it was because he liked sc2 more than bw or that he wanted to get a headstart.( i am assuming here).

If these rumours were to be true and if there is anything to be learnt from the inevitable death of bw, it will be that the authority(whoever it will be, Kespa or Gretch) will reward these athletes who pour in 12+ hours of training better living condition and salary. And i mean across the board and not just the Flashes and Jaedongs.

It will be a waste the whole spartan regime just end up transferring from sc2 to bw. BW has a lot of good things for SC2 to copy from but this is not one of them I feel.
StarcraftMan
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada507 Posts
October 12 2010 18:28 GMT
#91
On October 13 2010 03:23 robertdinh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2010 03:22 infinity2k9 wrote:
On October 13 2010 03:21 StarcraftMan wrote:
On October 13 2010 03:14 robertdinh wrote:
I seem to remember people adamantly claiming that effort didn't retire to play sc2.


Because they were deniers. Many of these posters that denied Effort switching to SC2 also denied the Nada rumours, the Boxer rumours, and the JulyZerg rumours.

If these deniers had used their common sense, they would realize that a top 3 BW Pro (yes, I rank Effort as top 3 after Flash and Jaedong) that is making at least $100K a year (maybe Effort was making even $200K or more?), doesn't leave that comfortable salary and job for nothing.

Effort didn't want to milk his salary and winnings in BW to the end and sacrificed it to get a head start in SC2. Kudos to him and I hope he does well in GSL3.


Um they denied it because he said specifically he wasn't pursuing a career in SC2.


Actually his coach said that, but sorta like tester and cool wanted to chill and just have fun right? Then they make a new team shortly after leaving ogs.


Yup. Agree with this ^^^

They deny switching to SC2 one day, and the next day, they either join a SC2 team or form a SC2 team, rofl.
aru
Profile Joined April 2010
183 Posts
October 12 2010 18:29 GMT
#92
On October 13 2010 01:30 sihyunie wrote:
KT Rolster coach Lee Ji Hoon
IP and public property is important, but... People don't know the biggest hurdle in the negotiations and are just arguing with themselves. I'm not allowed to disclose any information, but when you find out... you will probably be extremely upset... Man...


Seems like the majority of TL, myself included, could take note from this. I'm already extremely upset from this statement.
Woony
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany6657 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-12 18:31:05
October 12 2010 18:29 GMT
#93
13. Almost all teams have no players other than their A team, and basically have no new players.


Isn't this like the same thing as the death of BW? I mean the Kespa System doesn't work without the B team.
Gescom
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada3508 Posts
October 12 2010 18:30 GMT
#94
bw fighting
Jaedong Hyuk || Bisu Jangbi || Fantasy Flash
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
October 12 2010 18:32 GMT
#95
The problem is that the "negociations" are taking so long with a such incertain end, most bw progamers must feel scared about their future. Hell, they still don't know if they'll have any leagues and tourneys to play in this year ! So you can't blame them to take the safe road : the GSL with it 200k$/month prizepool.

They have to pay the rent and the food like everyone each month, just imagine if you boss told you that perhaps next month you'll be fired, but perhaps not, how can anyone find motivation in this ?
The companies faling to negociate are responsible for their own doom.
dtz
Profile Joined September 2010
5834 Posts
October 12 2010 18:35 GMT
#96
about the b-teamers :
it seems that even if kespa won the court case, irreparable damage has been done. What will happen to all these B-teamers and partners that Kespa will deem traitors.
imperator-xy
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Germany1377 Posts
October 12 2010 18:35 GMT
#97
"17. A big European company has offered a current BW player a big contract with a condition of transitioning to SC2. It's one of those "what if he were to play SC2" type big name player. The offer is by far the biggest in SC2. The player in question has recently resigned (Stork, Leta, Jaedong, and Flash are the only publicly known ones)."


i would really like to know what company that is. but i think it has to be some mainstream company like VW or Adidas which would be huge for esports.
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
October 12 2010 18:36 GMT
#98
And here come the SC2 fans yelling about world "domiantion." I like SC2/GSL and hope it succeeds, but if you don't realize what esports would be without pro-BW I feel really bad for you.
Amnesia
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States3818 Posts
October 12 2010 18:37 GMT
#99
On October 13 2010 03:24 r3d33m3r wrote:
good now even the biggest doubters know that this is the end of broodwar.
looking forward to sc2 world domiantion!

@StarcraftMan: this man speaks the truth^^

dude fuck off, this certainly is not the end yet.
honestly, stick to the sc2 forums. we won't bother you if you don't bother us like this.

i cant believe how you can be so sure that this is the end of bw.
you are clearly someone who loves sc2 and doesnt know the history behind the game.
once again, gtfo.
aru
Profile Joined April 2010
183 Posts
October 12 2010 18:38 GMT
#100
On October 13 2010 03:32 MrCon wrote:
They have to pay the rent and the food like everyone each month


Actually they don't. They live in the team practice houses and have hired help to cook them food and do various other chores around the house... most teams do anyway.
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