Progamer Retirements 9/16/10 - Page 3

On September 16 2010 12:40 Kralic wrote:
SonGDuri had to Defy going hungry so he just gave a great big Smile and took a quick trOt down the road to see his good friends Hamil and JoJoBa.

On September 17 2010 02:28 Slayer91 wrote:
I always feel sad for these unknown progamers who never made it and everyone laughs at them when they get. Show some respect guys

At least the good progamers make some money have fanclubs and good achievements to show. These guys have sacrificed so much and have gotten nothing out of it.

On September 16 2010 23:21 Pafnucy wrote:
We don't know them because for the last 4 years we have great VOD uploaders and live streamers and it is enough, even if someone can spend 3 hours a day. Before, keeping track with Korean scene had more replay watching with people picking players they like and searching for their replays. Today we hear about a gamer when he wins courage or plays on TV, which is quite late career-wise, as it takes around 1 year for b-teamer to "mature" skillwise and more time to pass courage. Before 2005 there were a lot of promising amateurs which we knew from reps and they became pros or quit. Hyuk was known from original gamei ladder around 2003, TLers noticed Canata and Pusan before they even joined proteams, Tempest was and amateur for long time, while Oov was an exception - he went straight to 4U. So these guys might have been future Pusans, Hyuks, Anytimes, but they quit, thats all. The fact that we don't know them might be an effect of different way of watching SC, rather than them being shitty players. Besides, there are players who are valued practice partners without being on TV every week, as we learned from Idra/Artosis last year. Puma, Suny, Magma come to mind.

As for BW dying, when SKT released most of their B-team few months ago I don't remember thinking about the death of BW.

On September 17 2010 03:21 Crimson)S(hadow wrote:



true story, although i might not be as old school i remember seeing reps of crazy-hydra when i was looking for good muta-micro reps, then after like 3-4 years i see him playing for CJ and maybe another team before that i was like WTF

On September 16 2010 13:31 matjlav wrote:
I always feel so bad for these no-name progamers that work so hard to get through Courage and get on a team, and then go years without accomplishing anything. It looks so rough.

On September 16 2010 23:21 Pafnucy wrote:
We don't know them because for the last 4 years we have great VOD uploaders and live streamers and it is enough, even if someone can spend 3 hours a day. Before, keeping track with Korean scene had more replay watching with people picking players they like and searching for their replays. Today we hear about a gamer when he wins courage or plays on TV, which is quite late career-wise, as it takes around 1 year for b-teamer to "mature" skillwise and more time to pass courage. Before 2005 there were a lot of promising amateurs which we knew from reps and they became pros or quit. Hyuk was known from original gamei ladder around 2003, TLers noticed Canata and Pusan before they even joined proteams, Tempest was and amateur for long time, while Oov was an exception - he went straight to 4U. So these guys might have been future Pusans, Hyuks, Anytimes, but they quit, thats all. The fact that we don't know them might be an effect of different way of watching SC, rather than them being shitty players. Besides, there are players who are valued practice partners without being on TV every week, as we learned from Idra/Artosis last year. Puma, Suny, Magma come to mind.

As for BW dying, when SKT released most of their B-team few months ago I don't remember thinking about the death of BW.

On September 17 2010 05:30 moopie wrote:

Or they'll move to SC2 (or another game), or they can go back to school. They tried something for a year or two, it didn't work, they're moving on. Life is all about taking chances, sometimes they pay off, sometimes they don't, but just because opportunities don't always work out doesn't mean you should avoid taking them.

On September 16 2010 12:40 Kralic wrote:
SonGDuri had to Defy going hungry so he just gave a great big Smile and took a quick trOt down the road to see his good friends Hamil and JoJoBa.