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Summarizing the Current KeSPA - Gretech situation - Page 16

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Nephrahim
Profile Joined August 2010
United States38 Posts
September 08 2010 05:26 GMT
#301
On September 08 2010 13:54 AlBundy wrote:
I seriously cannot believe what I read in this thread. People saying "I'm for Kespa / I'm for gretech / if it goes to court kespa will win / gretech will lose" etc.
Where do you all think you are going, by taking sides with either parties ? In this whole mess, eventually the biggest loser will be the fan. Brood War or Sc2 fan, whatever, the eSports fan is hurting right now, so before choosing sides, before spitting on sc2 or burrowing bw, please start thinking by yourself, don't fall into the trap of being a zombie cash cow, rooting for multimillion companies, as if it was a FvJ game. At the moment I feel like this whole case is putting esports fans against each other. People need to realise that this is not the right way to go.

Show nested quote +
SKT, KT, STX, Woongjin, and "Many others" are forming an "Anti Blizzard" Line. Players under those companies are not allowed to partake in SC2 events. They block OGN from broadcasting the GSL through the board of directors. Apparently, they're trying to get all the progame teams to unify.


Seriously, I may seem rather uninformed but which kind of sheep would follow this kind of maneuver? I'm used to see that sort of unsophisticated, cheap and awkward tactics work with success in politics, but in this case it's going too far.

ps: and because it seems that insulting people who don't agree is a new trend, I'll just say that you are all assholes as well as morons, Blizzard doesn't care about anything, KeSPA is a money-making machine. Sc2 is shitty and too easy, and I hate it because it's one month old.


Someone should sell "Team Kespa / Team Gretech shirts.
cenyth
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada3 Posts
September 08 2010 06:24 GMT
#302
ACE MATCH

Kespa vs Gretech Grudge Match

Will Kespa prevail with its risky ignore-the-enemy economy style, or will it be overcome by Gretech's low econ turtle into all-in push build???
Find out soon!

Map: Courtroom 5
Time: TBA
Live casting by the TL community!

Live streams and VODs to be provided.

hydraden
Profile Joined April 2010
United States719 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-08 06:38:46
September 08 2010 06:37 GMT
#303
On September 08 2010 13:54 AlBundy wrote:
I seriously cannot believe what I read in this thread. People saying "I'm for Kespa / I'm for gretech / if it goes to court kespa will win / gretech will lose" etc.
Where do you all think you are going, by taking sides with either parties ? In this whole mess, eventually the biggest loser will be the fan. Brood War or Sc2 fan, whatever, the eSports fan is hurting right now, so before choosing sides, before spitting on sc2 or burrowing bw, please start thinking by yourself, don't fall into the trap of being a zombie cash cow, rooting for multimillion companies, as if it was a FvJ game. At the moment I feel like this whole case is putting esports fans against each other. People need to realise that this is not the right way to go.


Seriously, I may seem rather uninformed but which kind of sheep would follow this kind of maneuver? I'm used to see that sort of unsophisticated, cheap and awkward tactics work with success in politics, but in this case it's going too far.

ps: and because it seems that insulting people who don't agree is a new trend, I'll just say that you are all assholes as well as morons, Blizzard doesn't care about anything, KeSPA is a money-making machine. Sc2 is shitty and too easy, and I hate it because it's one month old.


Don't be like an angle, and tell people what to do,
especially when you are not informed with the issue.

E-sports is not just games In Korea.
It involves billion dollar companies, 12 years kids and their parents, and politicians.
How do you think BW got developed in Korea as E-sports 10 years ago?
That's government's strategy.

If you want to discuss this issue, you have to talk about greedy company machines.
Neutral stand is not ideal, since there will only be one winner at last.
As fans, we have to choose the lesser evil here. Nobody is saying KeSPA/Blizzard is perfect.
_awake_
Profile Joined August 2007
196 Posts
September 08 2010 07:15 GMT
#304
On September 08 2010 13:54 AlBundy wrote:
I seriously cannot believe what I read in this thread. People saying "I'm for Kespa / I'm for gretech / if it goes to court kespa will win / gretech will lose" etc.
Where do you all think you are going, by taking sides with either parties ? In this whole mess, eventually the biggest loser will be the fan. Brood War or Sc2 fan, whatever, the eSports fan is hurting right now, so before choosing sides, before spitting on sc2 or burrowing bw, please start thinking by yourself, don't fall into the trap of being a zombie cash cow, rooting for multimillion companies, as if it was a FvJ game. At the moment I feel like this whole case is putting esports fans against each other. People need to realise that this is not the right way to go.

Show nested quote +
SKT, KT, STX, Woongjin, and "Many others" are forming an "Anti Blizzard" Line. Players under those companies are not allowed to partake in SC2 events. They block OGN from broadcasting the GSL through the board of directors. Apparently, they're trying to get all the progame teams to unify.


Seriously, I may seem rather uninformed but which kind of sheep would follow this kind of maneuver? I'm used to see that sort of unsophisticated, cheap and awkward tactics work with success in politics, but in this case it's going too far.

ps: and because it seems that insulting people who don't agree is a new trend, I'll just say that you are all assholes as well as morons, Blizzard doesn't care about anything, KeSPA is a money-making machine. Sc2 is shitty and too easy, and I hate it because it's one month old.


As a BW fan, I'm for KeSPA and you should be too. Have you not read the news? Let me get you up to speed, Gretech is for killing BW.

SKT, KT, STX etc made the right move to stand up against Blizzard. SC2 ain't shitty or anything, but it doesn't need to be shoved down people's throats by forcing BW off air.

PS. KeSPA is a non-profit organization, so if they do make money, you know that it'll be reinvested towards the progaming scene. That is all.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
September 08 2010 07:39 GMT
#305
Woot more bw, blizzard starting to piss me off
Go Kespa

User was warned for this post
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
lFrost
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States295 Posts
September 08 2010 08:36 GMT
#306
Really glad to hear Kespa is fighting back and isnt gonna take shit from gretech/blizz. While I do feel kespa does owe gretech/blizz something for using sc intellectual prop., gretech is being very unreasonable with their demands. i hope bw proleagues and starleagues never die.. they are a ton more interesting to watch than any sc2 event thus far - and ive watched most of them.
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
September 08 2010 09:13 GMT
#307
On September 08 2010 01:47 Amnesia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2010 00:23 Murderotica wrote:
To: Every poster who makes the statement that "newer is better" and therefore BW scene as a whole should just step down and take shitty time slots and less money so that SC2 can thrive.

First of all let me tell you that you are a selfish asshole who can't see past his own computer screen. You got SC2 and you think "omg bst gaem evr" so naturally you want the game you enjoy at the moment to be the most successful. Well guess what, your opinion of this game is shared by some people, but many many others think that SC2 is not better than BW (at least not yet) and therefore should not be usurping the already mature and advanced BW scene of the limelight. Newer is NOT better, and if not just because of the games themselves, then because SC2 has not had the time to develop to a mature and competitive game on the level of BW. So why should we force this game into primetime slots and drop money on it like no tomorrow, when the product is not as entertaining as BW because of the dilution of the skill base and the currently low skill ceiling? "Because we hope to achieve what BW has achieved someday, and doing these things makes this day come sooner," you might say. All I have to say is that you're wrong. BW came from dirt to royalty over years of development. As the game progressed in terms of average skill and entertainment values, sponsors naturally approached the scene and that is where the money should come from - investing in a product that has already proven its worth in a competitive setting. There are too many things wrong with SC2 and the people who are trying to promote it right now to safely say that it will succeed as a prosport. Trying to cut off the head of BW so that SC2 can thrive is just one glaring example of how WEAK even the people trying to promote the game think it is (or the scene/potential entertainment value is).

Take your slightly shittier timeslot, simply because BW has had this time slot and why be a dick like your company and try to take it away simply on the grounds that your game came out more recently. Well you know what, I can't watch SC2 games with the same intensity that I can watch BW games, so fuck you for thinking that this move is okay. I want my BW scene alive and intact - people are already moving to SC2 if they want to.
And you know what? If your game is really so great, it will rise in ratings and eventually it will have the swing to knock out BW, maybe. Until then, stop supporting this movement to kill the only true Esport in the world. Assholes.


QFT

Blind SC2 idiots, take your time and read this


This. And furthermore, have you guys ever thought of what would happen if BW dies? The day SC3/WC4 comes out, I can promise you that SC2 is going get the same treatment (assuming there is a proscene alive by that time).

You may selfishly want BW to die, fine. BW may actually die from Blizzard's greed, fine. But don't go around thinking that SC2 isn't going to get its plug pulled one day too.
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
PanzerDragoon
Profile Joined March 2010
United States822 Posts
September 08 2010 10:24 GMT
#308
So KESPA kills the GOM Classic, and when GOM pays them back, they cry foul, and all you people back them up?

Short memories you all must have.
PanzerDragoon
Profile Joined March 2010
United States822 Posts
September 08 2010 10:28 GMT
#309
On September 08 2010 18:13 writer22816 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2010 01:47 Amnesia wrote:
On September 08 2010 00:23 Murderotica wrote:
To: Every poster who makes the statement that "newer is better" and therefore BW scene as a whole should just step down and take shitty time slots and less money so that SC2 can thrive.

First of all let me tell you that you are a selfish asshole who can't see past his own computer screen. You got SC2 and you think "omg bst gaem evr" so naturally you want the game you enjoy at the moment to be the most successful. Well guess what, your opinion of this game is shared by some people, but many many others think that SC2 is not better than BW (at least not yet) and therefore should not be usurping the already mature and advanced BW scene of the limelight. Newer is NOT better, and if not just because of the games themselves, then because SC2 has not had the time to develop to a mature and competitive game on the level of BW. So why should we force this game into primetime slots and drop money on it like no tomorrow, when the product is not as entertaining as BW because of the dilution of the skill base and the currently low skill ceiling? "Because we hope to achieve what BW has achieved someday, and doing these things makes this day come sooner," you might say. All I have to say is that you're wrong. BW came from dirt to royalty over years of development. As the game progressed in terms of average skill and entertainment values, sponsors naturally approached the scene and that is where the money should come from - investing in a product that has already proven its worth in a competitive setting. There are too many things wrong with SC2 and the people who are trying to promote it right now to safely say that it will succeed as a prosport. Trying to cut off the head of BW so that SC2 can thrive is just one glaring example of how WEAK even the people trying to promote the game think it is (or the scene/potential entertainment value is).

Take your slightly shittier timeslot, simply because BW has had this time slot and why be a dick like your company and try to take it away simply on the grounds that your game came out more recently. Well you know what, I can't watch SC2 games with the same intensity that I can watch BW games, so fuck you for thinking that this move is okay. I want my BW scene alive and intact - people are already moving to SC2 if they want to.
And you know what? If your game is really so great, it will rise in ratings and eventually it will have the swing to knock out BW, maybe. Until then, stop supporting this movement to kill the only true Esport in the world. Assholes.


QFT

Blind SC2 idiots, take your time and read this


This. And furthermore, have you guys ever thought of what would happen if BW dies? The day SC3/WC4 comes out, I can promise you that SC2 is going get the same treatment (assuming there is a proscene alive by that time).

You may selfishly want BW to die, fine. BW may actually die from Blizzard's greed, fine. But don't go around thinking that SC2 isn't going to get its plug pulled one day too.

Warcraft 4 is never coming out. Warcraft is an MMO-only series now. And I'm pretty sure there won't be a SC3
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-08 10:29:45
September 08 2010 10:28 GMT
#310
On September 08 2010 19:24 PanzerDragoon wrote:
So KESPA kills the GOM Classic, and when GOM pays them back, they cry foul, and all you people back them up?

Short memories you all must have.


Yes because GOM classic is just as important as Shinhan Proleague, right?

And you must be pretty naive if you think ACTIVISION won't be making a SC3.

User was warned for this post
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
_awake_
Profile Joined August 2007
196 Posts
September 08 2010 10:36 GMT
#311
On September 08 2010 19:28 PanzerDragoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2010 18:13 writer22816 wrote:
On September 08 2010 01:47 Amnesia wrote:
On September 08 2010 00:23 Murderotica wrote:
To: Every poster who makes the statement that "newer is better" and therefore BW scene as a whole should just step down and take shitty time slots and less money so that SC2 can thrive.

First of all let me tell you that you are a selfish asshole who can't see past his own computer screen. You got SC2 and you think "omg bst gaem evr" so naturally you want the game you enjoy at the moment to be the most successful. Well guess what, your opinion of this game is shared by some people, but many many others think that SC2 is not better than BW (at least not yet) and therefore should not be usurping the already mature and advanced BW scene of the limelight. Newer is NOT better, and if not just because of the games themselves, then because SC2 has not had the time to develop to a mature and competitive game on the level of BW. So why should we force this game into primetime slots and drop money on it like no tomorrow, when the product is not as entertaining as BW because of the dilution of the skill base and the currently low skill ceiling? "Because we hope to achieve what BW has achieved someday, and doing these things makes this day come sooner," you might say. All I have to say is that you're wrong. BW came from dirt to royalty over years of development. As the game progressed in terms of average skill and entertainment values, sponsors naturally approached the scene and that is where the money should come from - investing in a product that has already proven its worth in a competitive setting. There are too many things wrong with SC2 and the people who are trying to promote it right now to safely say that it will succeed as a prosport. Trying to cut off the head of BW so that SC2 can thrive is just one glaring example of how WEAK even the people trying to promote the game think it is (or the scene/potential entertainment value is).

Take your slightly shittier timeslot, simply because BW has had this time slot and why be a dick like your company and try to take it away simply on the grounds that your game came out more recently. Well you know what, I can't watch SC2 games with the same intensity that I can watch BW games, so fuck you for thinking that this move is okay. I want my BW scene alive and intact - people are already moving to SC2 if they want to.
And you know what? If your game is really so great, it will rise in ratings and eventually it will have the swing to knock out BW, maybe. Until then, stop supporting this movement to kill the only true Esport in the world. Assholes.


QFT

Blind SC2 idiots, take your time and read this


This. And furthermore, have you guys ever thought of what would happen if BW dies? The day SC3/WC4 comes out, I can promise you that SC2 is going get the same treatment (assuming there is a proscene alive by that time).

You may selfishly want BW to die, fine. BW may actually die from Blizzard's greed, fine. But don't go around thinking that SC2 isn't going to get its plug pulled one day too.

Warcraft 4 is never coming out. Warcraft is an MMO-only series now. And I'm pretty sure there won't be a SC3


And the majority of us are pretty sure you're wrong.
Evil_Monkey_
Profile Joined May 2003
Denmark296 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-08 11:08:51
September 08 2010 11:07 GMT
#312
On September 08 2010 19:28 PanzerDragoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2010 18:13 writer22816 wrote:
On September 08 2010 01:47 Amnesia wrote:
On September 08 2010 00:23 Murderotica wrote:
To: Every poster who makes the statement that "newer is better" and therefore BW scene as a whole should just step down and take shitty time slots and less money so that SC2 can thrive.

First of all let me tell you that you are a selfish asshole who can't see past his own computer screen. You got SC2 and you think "omg bst gaem evr" so naturally you want the game you enjoy at the moment to be the most successful. Well guess what, your opinion of this game is shared by some people, but many many others think that SC2 is not better than BW (at least not yet) and therefore should not be usurping the already mature and advanced BW scene of the limelight. Newer is NOT better, and if not just because of the games themselves, then because SC2 has not had the time to develop to a mature and competitive game on the level of BW. So why should we force this game into primetime slots and drop money on it like no tomorrow, when the product is not as entertaining as BW because of the dilution of the skill base and the currently low skill ceiling? "Because we hope to achieve what BW has achieved someday, and doing these things makes this day come sooner," you might say. All I have to say is that you're wrong. BW came from dirt to royalty over years of development. As the game progressed in terms of average skill and entertainment values, sponsors naturally approached the scene and that is where the money should come from - investing in a product that has already proven its worth in a competitive setting. There are too many things wrong with SC2 and the people who are trying to promote it right now to safely say that it will succeed as a prosport. Trying to cut off the head of BW so that SC2 can thrive is just one glaring example of how WEAK even the people trying to promote the game think it is (or the scene/potential entertainment value is).

Take your slightly shittier timeslot, simply because BW has had this time slot and why be a dick like your company and try to take it away simply on the grounds that your game came out more recently. Well you know what, I can't watch SC2 games with the same intensity that I can watch BW games, so fuck you for thinking that this move is okay. I want my BW scene alive and intact - people are already moving to SC2 if they want to.
And you know what? If your game is really so great, it will rise in ratings and eventually it will have the swing to knock out BW, maybe. Until then, stop supporting this movement to kill the only true Esport in the world. Assholes.


QFT

Blind SC2 idiots, take your time and read this


This. And furthermore, have you guys ever thought of what would happen if BW dies? The day SC3/WC4 comes out, I can promise you that SC2 is going get the same treatment (assuming there is a proscene alive by that time).

You may selfishly want BW to die, fine. BW may actually die from Blizzard's greed, fine. But don't go around thinking that SC2 isn't going to get its plug pulled one day too.

Warcraft 4 is never coming out. Warcraft is an MMO-only series now. And I'm pretty sure there won't be a SC3
'
Where there's money, there's a way. Are you a bit naive?
Same thing they said about the terminator series and we still got a horrible nr.3 and even more horrible nr.4
........
wiesel
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany727 Posts
September 08 2010 11:31 GMT
#313
On September 08 2010 19:28 PanzerDragoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2010 18:13 writer22816 wrote:
On September 08 2010 01:47 Amnesia wrote:
On September 08 2010 00:23 Murderotica wrote:
To: Every poster who makes the statement that "newer is better" and therefore BW scene as a whole should just step down and take shitty time slots and less money so that SC2 can thrive.

First of all let me tell you that you are a selfish asshole who can't see past his own computer screen. You got SC2 and you think "omg bst gaem evr" so naturally you want the game you enjoy at the moment to be the most successful. Well guess what, your opinion of this game is shared by some people, but many many others think that SC2 is not better than BW (at least not yet) and therefore should not be usurping the already mature and advanced BW scene of the limelight. Newer is NOT better, and if not just because of the games themselves, then because SC2 has not had the time to develop to a mature and competitive game on the level of BW. So why should we force this game into primetime slots and drop money on it like no tomorrow, when the product is not as entertaining as BW because of the dilution of the skill base and the currently low skill ceiling? "Because we hope to achieve what BW has achieved someday, and doing these things makes this day come sooner," you might say. All I have to say is that you're wrong. BW came from dirt to royalty over years of development. As the game progressed in terms of average skill and entertainment values, sponsors naturally approached the scene and that is where the money should come from - investing in a product that has already proven its worth in a competitive setting. There are too many things wrong with SC2 and the people who are trying to promote it right now to safely say that it will succeed as a prosport. Trying to cut off the head of BW so that SC2 can thrive is just one glaring example of how WEAK even the people trying to promote the game think it is (or the scene/potential entertainment value is).

Take your slightly shittier timeslot, simply because BW has had this time slot and why be a dick like your company and try to take it away simply on the grounds that your game came out more recently. Well you know what, I can't watch SC2 games with the same intensity that I can watch BW games, so fuck you for thinking that this move is okay. I want my BW scene alive and intact - people are already moving to SC2 if they want to.
And you know what? If your game is really so great, it will rise in ratings and eventually it will have the swing to knock out BW, maybe. Until then, stop supporting this movement to kill the only true Esport in the world. Assholes.


QFT

Blind SC2 idiots, take your time and read this


This. And furthermore, have you guys ever thought of what would happen if BW dies? The day SC3/WC4 comes out, I can promise you that SC2 is going get the same treatment (assuming there is a proscene alive by that time).

You may selfishly want BW to die, fine. BW may actually die from Blizzard's greed, fine. But don't go around thinking that SC2 isn't going to get its plug pulled one day too.

Warcraft 4 is never coming out. Warcraft is an MMO-only series now. And I'm pretty sure there won't be a SC3

Warcraft4 was already inofficial announced...You should learn a bit more about the Kespa history seems like your pretty uneducated about the whole situation...
ffreakk
Profile Joined September 2010
Singapore2155 Posts
September 08 2010 12:45 GMT
#314
On September 08 2010 07:52 HeaDStrong wrote:
So with every report it becomes more apparent where Blizzard's loyalties lie and it's profits. (not much surprise there).


Do you want to get involved with sc2 esports run by blizzard? Then you must be quite dumb, let me explain...

Blizzard has proven already that they lose interest in their products quite quickly. They shut down their official broodwar ladder and let iccup take over simply because they didn't care. (not much profits left to be squeezed out) And now they actively try to even get one of their older products out of the way. If you ask me that is not the kind of image that makes you look like a trustworthy long-term partner.

No one can give young aspiring gamers wanting to become progamers a guarantee about their future careers, even with the broodwar scene, we have seen only very few players age and transition out of being a progamer. The branch is simply to young. However, Blizzards actions are just so ridiculous that even the most optimistic people should see that the future looks grim.

Be a sc2 progamer and wait for sc3 or w4 to come out and all you'd have achieved will be taken away from you and you will become nothing more that simply a barrier in blizzards way of making more money.

This is far-fetched, grim and very much anti-blizzard. However, I say, if not evidence, there are a lot of hints that this might be true.

Just ask yourself is blizzard acting in a way that makes you want to trust them on a long term?


Everyone seemed to miss this even though its a page-topper, so i would just like to give it a gentle bump here. This and how Gretech is declaring that it wishes to do away with the Proteam format leaves one without any hope that Gretech/Blizzard has any intention (or capability) to develop e-Sport, in my opinion.

@ PanzerDragoon

Honestly as far as i can tell.. There is only ONE reason as to why Blizz wont make SC3.. That is if this SC2 fail so horribly that theres no hope of them making money with a new release.. So the only chance that your SC2 scene will last eternally (without getting ruthlessly plugged by Blizz) is when its an utter failure.
Look. Only Forward. See. Only Victory.
robertdinh
Profile Joined June 2010
803 Posts
September 08 2010 12:58 GMT
#315
Where has warcraft4 been unofficially announced, I haven't heard anything like that whatsoever. I have heard interviews where they say another warcraft rts is possible somewhere down the line, but obviously they would never flat out rule out any possibility for a future game.

As far as I understand blizzard likes what they did here, they turned warcraft into their mmorpg franchise, diablo is their morpg franchise, and starcraft is their rts franchise.

They are making a new game that will be mmofps which will be a whole new universe outside of warcraft/diablo/starcraft.

But it's really too early to be talking about future blizzard rts games when they just released one 1.5 months ago.
True skill comes without effort.
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5552 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-08 13:32:22
September 08 2010 13:28 GMT
#316
On September 08 2010 19:24 PanzerDragoon wrote:
So KESPA kills the GOM Classic, and when GOM pays them back, they cry foul, and all you people back them up?

Short memories you all must have.


First of all, KeSPA let them proceed with two seasons even though they ignored KeSPA (it's like a major football tournament trying to ignore FIFA or their respective national association). It wasn't until they officially sided with Blizzard.

Second of all, I don't see how trying to destroy the whole foundation of BW esports is in any way comparable to several teams withdrawing from a crappy tournament with no prestige nor recognition (haven't heard of GSL being broadcasted on the TV).


On September 08 2010 21:58 robertdinh wrote:
Where has warcraft4 been unofficially announced, I haven't heard anything like that whatsoever. I have heard interviews where they say another warcraft rts is possible somewhere down the line, but obviously they would never flat out rule out any possibility for a future game.

As far as I understand blizzard likes what they did here, they turned warcraft into their mmorpg franchise, diablo is their morpg franchise, and starcraft is their rts franchise.

They are making a new game that will be mmofps which will be a whole new universe outside of warcraft/diablo/starcraft.

But it's really too early to be talking about future blizzard rts games when they just released one 1.5 months ago.


WC4 is likely already in the early design phase. In one interview couple years ago some Blizzard member accidentally said something like "that's also how it's going to work in WarCraft 4" when asked about some campaign related thing in SC2.
Archerofaiur
Profile Joined August 2008
United States4101 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-08 13:51:32
September 08 2010 13:47 GMT
#317
On September 08 2010 22:28 maybenexttime wrote:
WC4 is likely already in the early design phase. In one interview couple years ago some Blizzard member accidentally said something like "that's also how it's going to work in WarCraft 4" when asked about some campaign related thing in SC2.


Source?

I found this
he way that we develop things, each time a development team becomes available, because they're done with creating the games that they've been doing, they have a lot of say over what their next game is. So what it would take is for one of our teams to decide that they want to make Warcraft RTS and of course, there'll be some talk about doing that and I'm sure after StarCraft 2 ships, it will be one the ideas on the table for that team to do, but that's pretty far off in the future and it would really be determined by a combination of the dev team and the company leadership.

http://kotaku.com/gaming/blizzard-says/another-warcraft-rts-on-the-table-291092.php

and this

“Warcraft 4 is certainly something that gets talked about on a pretty regular basis,” Brack explained, but his next revelation throws a bit of a spanner in the works – the team that worked on Warcraft 3 is actually the same team that is working on StarCraft 2! “While I think we’re all excited about a Warcraft 4, in concept, they’re going to finish up StarCraft 2, and then they’re going to work on the two StarCraft expansions that we’ve announced, so they’re booked for the next few years.”

(He does go on to explain that there’s nothing set in stone that says that Warcraft 4 has to be created by the same people who made Warcraft 3, but “it does sort of make sense” for it to be done that way. Never say never, I guess.)

http://multiboxing.com/world-of-warcraft/wow-game-news/blizzard-states-warcraft-4-is-still-years-away/
http://sclegacy.com/news/28-scl/250-starcraftlegacy-macro-theorycrafting-contest-winners
w1kk
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany17 Posts
September 08 2010 13:49 GMT
#318
Kespa will go for a lawsuit and will win it.

This could have been so great if only Kespa and Blizzard would have worked together.

So who ist guilty? I say both!

maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5552 Posts
September 08 2010 13:57 GMT
#319
On September 08 2010 22:47 Archerofaiur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2010 22:28 maybenexttime wrote:
WC4 is likely already in the early design phase. In one interview couple years ago some Blizzard member accidentally said something like "that's also how it's going to work in WarCraft 4" when asked about some campaign related thing in SC2.


Source?

I found this
Show nested quote +
he way that we develop things, each time a development team becomes available, because they're done with creating the games that they've been doing, they have a lot of say over what their next game is. So what it would take is for one of our teams to decide that they want to make Warcraft RTS and of course, there'll be some talk about doing that and I'm sure after StarCraft 2 ships, it will be one the ideas on the table for that team to do, but that's pretty far off in the future and it would really be determined by a combination of the dev team and the company leadership.

http://kotaku.com/gaming/blizzard-says/another-warcraft-rts-on-the-table-291092.php

and this

Show nested quote +
“Warcraft 4 is certainly something that gets talked about on a pretty regular basis,” Brack explained, but his next revelation throws a bit of a spanner in the works – the team that worked on Warcraft 3 is actually the same team that is working on StarCraft 2! “While I think we’re all excited about a Warcraft 4, in concept, they’re going to finish up StarCraft 2, and then they’re going to work on the two StarCraft expansions that we’ve announced, so they’re booked for the next few years.”

(He does go on to explain that there’s nothing set in stone that says that Warcraft 4 has to be created by the same people who made Warcraft 3, but “it does sort of make sense” for it to be done that way. Never say never, I guess.)

http://multiboxing.com/world-of-warcraft/wow-game-news/blizzard-states-warcraft-4-is-still-years-away/


Here you go:

http://forums.filefront.com/warcraft-iii-general-discussion/381294-warcraft-4-announced.html

"The big news from BlizzCon yesterday was that Starcraft II would be released as three separate titles, but an interesting piece of information was let slip during a Starcraft panel.


According to several sources working from BlizzCon transcripts, during one of the development panels for Starcraft II one of the panelists made mention of Wacraft IV.

While discussing the unorthodox Starcraft II release plans, executive vice-president of game design for Blizzard, Rob Pardo let slip that the Warcraft IV campaigns would be released in the same episodic manner."
robertdinh
Profile Joined June 2010
803 Posts
September 08 2010 14:01 GMT
#320
On September 08 2010 22:57 maybenexttime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2010 22:47 Archerofaiur wrote:
On September 08 2010 22:28 maybenexttime wrote:
WC4 is likely already in the early design phase. In one interview couple years ago some Blizzard member accidentally said something like "that's also how it's going to work in WarCraft 4" when asked about some campaign related thing in SC2.


Source?

I found this
he way that we develop things, each time a development team becomes available, because they're done with creating the games that they've been doing, they have a lot of say over what their next game is. So what it would take is for one of our teams to decide that they want to make Warcraft RTS and of course, there'll be some talk about doing that and I'm sure after StarCraft 2 ships, it will be one the ideas on the table for that team to do, but that's pretty far off in the future and it would really be determined by a combination of the dev team and the company leadership.

http://kotaku.com/gaming/blizzard-says/another-warcraft-rts-on-the-table-291092.php

and this

“Warcraft 4 is certainly something that gets talked about on a pretty regular basis,” Brack explained, but his next revelation throws a bit of a spanner in the works – the team that worked on Warcraft 3 is actually the same team that is working on StarCraft 2! “While I think we’re all excited about a Warcraft 4, in concept, they’re going to finish up StarCraft 2, and then they’re going to work on the two StarCraft expansions that we’ve announced, so they’re booked for the next few years.”

(He does go on to explain that there’s nothing set in stone that says that Warcraft 4 has to be created by the same people who made Warcraft 3, but “it does sort of make sense” for it to be done that way. Never say never, I guess.)

http://multiboxing.com/world-of-warcraft/wow-game-news/blizzard-states-warcraft-4-is-still-years-away/


Here you go:

http://forums.filefront.com/warcraft-iii-general-discussion/381294-warcraft-4-announced.html

"The big news from BlizzCon yesterday was that Starcraft II would be released as three separate titles, but an interesting piece of information was let slip during a Starcraft panel.


According to several sources working from BlizzCon transcripts, during one of the development panels for Starcraft II one of the panelists made mention of Wacraft IV.

While discussing the unorthodox Starcraft II release plans, executive vice-president of game design for Blizzard, Rob Pardo let slip that the Warcraft IV campaigns would be released in the same episodic manner."


Some of his sources are more recent than yours.

What we know according to those articles is that the war3 team is working on sc2 and it's campaigns. We know that warcraft4 is on the table as a future project, but there is no indication that a warcraft4 project has actually been given any greenlight.
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