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theramstoss
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada242 Posts
April 18 2010 00:00 GMT
#1221
It was written by the senator.
quote? what quote?
supernovamaniac
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States3047 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-18 00:03:32
April 18 2010 00:02 GMT
#1222
In 4th round, Proleague's entry style gaming has been banned due to the Illegal Gambling scandal.

This scandal, not only changing the pre-entry system into a new style, but also changed many other things. Players are not allowed to carry personal electronic devices into the stadium. These include, but not limited to, cellphones and MP3 players.

'Commander' Song Byung Gu ((P)Stork) has spoken out about this new rules in E-Sports after his team's match against Airforce Ace on the 14th.

Stork commented "Something(Pre-determined game outcomes) huge has happened this time around. But instead of talking about the issue itself, this problem has changed few rules in Proleague, and players are getting harmed from these new rules. Cellphones, MP3s etc. are banned from stadium now. I can understand the cellphone ban, but many players use music to calm their minds down. The precaution is okay, but I think this new rule is also harming these players.

I think they took away the freedom from the new players who will take lead in E-Sports in the future. MP3 should be allowed. I know that there are models that can access internet, but this new rule is invading player's freedom."





In essence, Stork hates this new rule. =)
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[OSEN=고용준 기자] 4라운드부터 프로리그의 대표 방식이라고 할 수 있는 엔트리 예고제가 폐지됐다. 바로 '승부조작 파문' 때문이다.

'승부조작 파문'은 엔트리 예고제 폐지 이외에도 여러가지 변화를 불러 일으켰다. 첫 번째가 선수들의 전자기기 휴대 금지다. 이 조항으로 선수들은 휴대전화기를 비롯한 MP3 등 모든 개인 전자기기를 원천적으로 경기장에 반입할 수 없게 돼다.

'사령관' 송병구가 14일 서울 용산 e스포츠 상설경기장에서 열린 프로리그 공군전을 마치고 나서 이 조항에 대해 목청을 높였다.


송병구는 "이번에 큰 일('승부조작 파문')이 일어났다. 이번 건에 대해서 얘기하기 보다는 그로 인해 몇가지 규정이 바뀌었는데 열심히 하려는 선수들도 피해를 받는 것 같다"면서 "이번 일로 경기장에서 휴대전화기와 MP3 등이 반입 금지됐다. 휴대전화기는 그렇다 치더라도 음악 같은 경우는 심리적인 안정차원에서 애용하는 선수들이 많다. 예방도 좋지만 너무 심리적인 부분까지 건드리는 건 아닌가 한다"고 열변을 토해냈다.

이어 그는 "열심히 e스포츠를 키워나가야 할 선수들의 자유까지 너무 뺏어버리는 것 같다. 적어도 MP3는 허용해야 하지 않겠는가. 인터넷이 되는 기종도 있지만 개인적인 자유를 너무 침해하는 것 같다"며 그간 쌓인 감정을 폭발시켰다.

scrapper@osen.co.kr
ppp
bull0563
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
112 Posts
April 19 2010 11:50 GMT
#1223
Man what a nail in the coffin for sc1 this is.
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
April 19 2010 13:11 GMT
#1224
On April 19 2010 20:50 bull0563 wrote:
Man what a nail in the coffin for sc1 this is.


What a great first post.
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 19 2010 13:24 GMT
#1225
Stork is so baller, always telling it like it is.
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Gregsen
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Germany667 Posts
April 19 2010 13:43 GMT
#1226
On April 19 2010 20:50 bull0563 wrote:
Man what a nail in the coffin for sc1 this is.



lol, what do YOU know?
Boycott Activision whenever, wherever you can.
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
April 19 2010 14:26 GMT
#1227
Stork telling it straight up. What a gem in the mist of robots and cheaters.

Funny enough Stork is under investigation himself...
theramstoss
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada242 Posts
April 19 2010 16:23 GMT
#1228
On April 19 2010 23:26 dukethegold wrote:
Stork telling it straight up. What a gem in the mist of robots and cheaters.

Funny enough Stork is under investigation himself...


According to a random list whose source is obviously not the DA
quote? what quote?
bull0563
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
112 Posts
April 19 2010 16:27 GMT
#1229
On April 19 2010 22:43 Gregsen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2010 20:50 bull0563 wrote:
Man what a nail in the coffin for sc1 this is.



lol, what do YOU know?


Nothing actually.
I just regged to acces to forum to see what's up with sc1.
I really liked watching sc1 vids. But i am not really into the scene. I watched Klazart and after klazart husky and HD. But klazart quit and HD and husky are busy with sc2.
So in my eyes it just seems sc1 isn't doing so well. And now with a big gambling scandal. That isn't helping as well.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
April 19 2010 16:27 GMT
#1230
Progamers need a union
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
April 19 2010 16:29 GMT
#1231
Thanks for the translation, supernovamaniac. It seems like Stork's like the player representative or something these days. He seems to be the only person who has an opinion on things beyond practicing and performing well.

I'm a huge Stork fan, but I really don't give a damn if he cheated. If he did cheat, I just hope he was smart enough not to get caught. The guy's just so good at decision-making and seeing the overall picture in the game, I really can't picture him as some idiot who left evidence of cheating behind for the investigators.
Meh
poor newb
Profile Joined April 2004
United States1879 Posts
April 19 2010 16:40 GMT
#1232
nah savior just sucked
How do you mine minerals?
Yurebis
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1452 Posts
April 19 2010 17:27 GMT
#1233
i think banning mp3 players was a bit unnecessary
besides, whats that gonna do, players can be fed info from signs in the crowd
unless they plan on having players in a closed room being televised to the outside (lol msl finals) kespa cant stop players from reaching the outside...

this is the wrong way to go to prevent match fixing, in fact it could make it worse. when people think they are safe to gamble, pot sizes go up, incentive for match fixing goes up, then bam, everyone gets scammed again
Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
sleepytime
Profile Joined January 2010
Denmark122 Posts
April 19 2010 17:44 GMT
#1234
:O maybe (Z)sAviOr could have destroyed Bisu
Nada fighting!
JohannesH
Profile Joined September 2009
Finland1364 Posts
April 19 2010 17:54 GMT
#1235
On April 20 2010 02:44 sleepytime wrote:
:O maybe (Z)sAviOr could have destroyed Bisu

No it was too early, arranging games only started in -08 apparently.
If you have to ask, you don't know.
3 Lions
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3705 Posts
April 19 2010 18:17 GMT
#1236
On April 20 2010 02:44 sleepytime wrote:
:O maybe (Z)sAviOr could have destroyed Bisu

The FPVODs of that final clearly show that Savior was completely outplayed.
At least mechanically. Idk what he was thinking though.
PanzerDragoon
Profile Joined March 2010
United States822 Posts
April 19 2010 18:34 GMT
#1237
On April 20 2010 02:27 Yurebis wrote:
i think banning mp3 players was a bit unnecessary
besides, whats that gonna do, players can be fed info from signs in the crowd
unless they plan on having players in a closed room being televised to the outside (lol msl finals) kespa cant stop players from reaching the outside...

this is the wrong way to go to prevent match fixing, in fact it could make it worse. when people think they are safe to gamble, pot sizes go up, incentive for match fixing goes up, then bam, everyone gets scammed again

Its pretty impossible to fix proleague matches now because of the new format.

OSL/MSL could still easily be rigged though. A bit harder because someone has to drop multiple games generally.
pR0gR4m3R
Profile Joined February 2008
Spain1446 Posts
April 19 2010 18:37 GMT
#1238
Spanish newspaper EL PAIS, at its online version, talks about this scandal

http://www.elpais.com/articulo/tecnologia/policia/coreana/investiga/competiciones/amanadas/StarCraft/elpeputec/20100416elpeputec_2/Tes
StarCraft-ESP.com Admin - Spanish StarCraft Community
theramstoss
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada242 Posts
April 19 2010 19:56 GMT
#1239
On April 20 2010 01:27 bull0563 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2010 22:43 Gregsen wrote:
On April 19 2010 20:50 bull0563 wrote:
Man what a nail in the coffin for sc1 this is.



lol, what do YOU know?


Nothing actually.
I just regged to acces to forum to see what's up with sc1.
I really liked watching sc1 vids. But i am not really into the scene. I watched Klazart and after klazart husky and HD. But klazart quit and HD and husky are busy with sc2.
So in my eyes it just seems sc1 isn't doing so well. And now with a big gambling scandal. That isn't helping as well.


Starcraft isn't doing well because klazart quit? You know Korean Air, Shinhan Bank and ogn and mbc tv ads aren't targeted at foreign fans right.
quote? what quote?
dranjam
Profile Joined May 2008
Poland198 Posts
April 19 2010 20:03 GMT
#1240
On April 20 2010 04:56 theramstoss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2010 01:27 bull0563 wrote:
On April 19 2010 22:43 Gregsen wrote:
On April 19 2010 20:50 bull0563 wrote:
Man what a nail in the coffin for sc1 this is.



lol, what do YOU know?


Nothing actually.
I just regged to acces to forum to see what's up with sc1.
I really liked watching sc1 vids. But i am not really into the scene. I watched Klazart and after klazart husky and HD. But klazart quit and HD and husky are busy with sc2.
So in my eyes it just seems sc1 isn't doing so well. And now with a big gambling scandal. That isn't helping as well.


Starcraft isn't doing well because klazart quit? You know Korean Air, Shinhan Bank and ogn and mbc tv ads aren't targeted at foreign fans right.

Guy has an opinion that SC1 is dying, and many people agree with that. There's no point to attack him for his beliefs.
First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight with you, then you win.
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