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I read something that Leinad wrote in another thread and I have to agree with it. You can't say 'Guys, relax, it's just a game!'
I would say that to all the people who want to kill TreK in RL. x_X
Hacking is the _worst_ thing you can do in BW, there is nothing more destroying. So he deserves _some_ kind of punishment. I don't say it should be a lifetime ban (but I understand the people who want that), but at least something.
The problem with TreK is, however, that he lied about his hacking. And tame is right, he is forgiven just because he is famous. Well, I would understand a lifetime ban because of the lying, but let the community decide.
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I would at least ban him from any league or ladder for 6 months and I wouldn't allow him to play CPL Winter Event as well as WCG
this would be enough of a treatment.
Banning him forever (sounds like that in tame's post) is not the right idea I think (it's impossible anyway)
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Norway28667 Posts
I agree
if trek gets to play in the next season of sPGL, something very many swedes seem to want, I won't participate.
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who the hell is trek -_-...he hacks?
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'once a hacker always a hacker' is wrong...i used to hack when i was newbie and now i never use it(only in 2v2 when im dead and i want to obs)...i just realized its boring...whats the point of winning if you cheated...no acomplishement at all -.-
But maybe a hacker thats really good and hacked for really long would hardly get used to not use his hack...but its not impossible.
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It is like weed..you don't get addicted..but..once a pot head alaways a pot head...
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TreK hacked for revenge on a hacker (though he should have just contacted admins). He's not the type to hack to win games. Thats just cheating. Anyone who thinks he will continue to hack is just plain dumb.
Furthermore, anyone who thinks in the fashion of "once a (blah) is always a (blah)" is ignorant and foolish. People can and do constantly change.
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'I only cheated once to get back at another hacker'
you actually believe that shit?
'Hes not the type to hack to win games'
LOL too funny
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diference with hackers and trek, is that hes actually good at bw, without hack.. so as me beliving that he can get another chance: yea, because he knows he can own without hack. Hopefully he will own wcg swe and play good in next wcg, so he can make a slow comback :O
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no hacker should be allowed to enter any tournament if the admin knows hes hacked before
thats my stance~_~ ive never touched a maphack on any game. (except d2 lolz)
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None of us should give a rats ass if he plays in cash tournies or not. It should be up to the other plays of the tournament, and should be based on what the majority of the tournament thinks.
Personally I think that 'once a hacker always a hacker' is like saying 'once a criminal always a criminal' and anyone who says that is a stupid little shit keke? 
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I agree with Mandalor and Drone.
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Norway28667 Posts
chuiu chuiu chuiu no no no
he has admitted to hacking in like 30 games or so I think, dunno if that's the truth or not(but it obviously means he hacked in at least 30 games. ), but either way he DID hack in competitions, among other things he hacked in sGPL against well, me. he also hacked in WSL, which was a tourney involving money..
and not only that, but when he first got caught he made up a bullshit story about only having hacked twice or something, and people bought him. he didn't admit to hacking more until people actually proved he had hacked in more games, which means he can't be trusted, and people who can't be trusted shouldn't be playing in tournaments. period.
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Once a newbie always a newbie
[Insert dancing banana here]
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Norway28667 Posts
okay adamthegreat, because if you let people come back after just apologizing and promising that they'll use hack detecting programs, there's no punishment for hacking. so everyone can just hack until they're caught and some people won't even ever get caught. I think anyone caught should be banned from any competition for like at least a year, and that would include wgtour as well. :-)
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seems like allied lurker are for some ppl worse than hacking, sometimes i cant understand the ppl.
As if we would need just a single hacker, y give them a 2nd chance at all?
Everybody knows what he does and just when u use such strict rules against hacking less ppl will try it and dont come with "they will just cr8 a new acc/identity" cause no player who is just about average can cr8 a new identity and will cut all his connections to everybody he knews.
It takes for everyone a long time to find "friends" in the community and make urself "popular" and as soon as the risk is very high that being caught hacking will mean u will lose everything, the chance for someone (good) hacking is much less likely.
Also the community doesnt need (ex) hackers, there are enough player out there, sometimes u make it look like without all these hackers we wouldnt have anyone left to play but thats for sure not the case.
That Trek can really participate after 2 months in a big torunament is the biggest joke of the year.
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Screw it, you cant stop hackers, they can just smurf...
And it aint like he killed someone...
p.s.: Why do ppl allow Smuft to play in tourneys after his WDT scam? O_Oa
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Russian Federation172 Posts
On February 26 2004 10:51 Liquid`Drone wrote:
okay adamthegreat, because if you let people come back after just apologizing and promising that they'll use hack detecting programs, there's no punishment for hacking. so everyone can just hack until they're caught and some people won't even ever get caught. I think anyone caught should be banned from any competition for like at least a year, and that would include wgtour as well. :-)
Yes, smth like disciplinary punishment for hacking.
But i don't think its necessary to be so cruel. Thats not a crime at all
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