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9th - Stork - 51W 38L - 57.3%
Oh Stork.  Not exactly hanging there with your 4 King buddies, are you?
Get back and go kick some proleague asses, kk?
6th - EffOrt - 55W 29L - 65.5%
This is fricking unbelievable if you keep in mind that 2009 was Effort's debut. I have no doubt in my mind that if Effort would have made a better Savior if he debuted in 2005 instead.
3rd - (P)JangBi - 56W 25L - 69.1%
I knew that Jangbi used to be way up there, but didn't know his win rate was that high...which begs the question just what the hell happened to him. On the bright side, his slump seems to be more or less ending.
Hyvaa is on the top 20 list...
Thx for the translation, Kona! (Last translation my ass  )
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United States12607 Posts
2008 really was a good year for Protoss o.o
I miss those days
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Well being strong in Winner's League sure helps getting mass amounts of wins.
Jaedong was the most dominant one in WL, Hiya/hyvaa/Jangbi were incredible too.
Though I can't explain how Effort has got so many lol.
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Clearly Free was the worst Dragon.
Kekeke.
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2010 will be flash on top with 90% win
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On January 08 2010 02:11 Jyvblamo wrote:
Clearly Free was the worst Dragon.
Kekeke.
The only Dragon without a medal under his name.
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3rd - JangBi - 56W 25L - 69.1%
4th - Stork - 55W 33L - 62.5%
5th - Kal - 55W 39L - 58.5%
6th - BeSt - 52W 22L - 71.1%
7th - Bisu - 51W 32L - 61.4%
Haha I remember back in those days, I stopped watching SC if there was protoss because it was generally a one sided rape. First 6 protoss dragons, now 4 zerg, where are all the terrans?
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2009 1st - Jaedong - 100W 40L - 71.4% is best winrate for these 3 years, its sick xd
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konadora
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On January 08 2010 02:13 dukethegold wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2010 02:11 Jyvblamo wrote:
Clearly Free was the worst Dragon.
Kekeke. The only Dragon without a medal under his name.
funny how all of the rest have a silver lol (technically Bisu's not counted though)
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On January 08 2010 02:17 konadora wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2010 02:13 dukethegold wrote:On January 08 2010 02:11 Jyvblamo wrote:
Clearly Free was the worst Dragon.
Kekeke. The only Dragon without a medal under his name. funny how all of the rest have a silver lol (technically Bisu's not counted though)
Bisu has a silver. He lost to Mind. O.o
Stork has one gold. Hell yeah. But I don't really like the fact that he defeated Fantasy to get it. Would have prefer him trashing Jaedong instead.
Jangbi and the great legacy of Khan silver miners. LOL.
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konadora
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On January 08 2010 02:20 dukethegold wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2010 02:17 konadora wrote:On January 08 2010 02:13 dukethegold wrote:On January 08 2010 02:11 Jyvblamo wrote:
Clearly Free was the worst Dragon.
Kekeke. The only Dragon without a medal under his name. funny how all of the rest have a silver lol (technically Bisu's not counted though) Bisu has a silver. He lost to Mind. O.o Stork has one gold. Hell yeah. But I don't really like the fact that he defeated Fantasy to get it. Would have prefer him trashing Jaedong instead.
ah snap, totally forgot about that
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On January 08 2010 02:17 MorroW[MB] wrote:
2009 1st - Jaedong - 100W 40L - 71.4% is best winrate for these 3 years, its sick xd
It's not sorted by win rate, it is sorted by number of wins. Leta had a 73.8% winrate in 2008.
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Of all the dragons, I know the least about Free. Considering that Free never got far with starleagues, he must have been really dominant in proleague to stay in the top 20 for three years straight.
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On January 08 2010 02:24 dukethegold wrote:
Of all the dragons, I know the least about Free. Considering that Free never got far with starleagues, he must have been really dominant in proleague to stay in the top 20 for three years straight.
free is the only reason Stars never turned into a "low rank" team like estro.
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On January 08 2010 02:24 dukethegold wrote:
Of all the dragons, I know the least about Free. Considering that Free never got far with starleagues, he must have been really dominant in proleague to stay in the top 20 for three years straight.
He was the ace player for Hanbit/Woongin until Zero took over for all 3 of those years. GGplay was there most of the time as well, but I think Free when I think Hanbit, not GGplay.
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Very interesting statistics. But we all know Flash will have 80%+ this year
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On January 08 2010 02:34 Lebesgue wrote:Very interesting statistics. But we all know Flash will have 80%+ this year
Still too early to say it. But if Flash wins double starleagues, I will probably join the bandwagon just for the ride.
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Free used to be so impressive. His micro was ridiculously good.
It's interesting to see how the dynamics of the game switch from race to race.
Best was ridiculously good in 2008 though. It's a shame he didn't win the OSL against Julyzerg, his macro was just unbelievable then and still impressive now.
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On January 08 2010 02:16 [Azn]Nada wrote:
3rd - JangBi - 56W 25L - 69.1%
4th - Stork - 55W 33L - 62.5%
5th - Kal - 55W 39L - 58.5%
6th - BeSt - 52W 22L - 71.1%
7th - Bisu - 51W 32L - 61.4%
Haha I remember back in those days, I stopped watching SC if there was protoss because it was generally a one sided rape. First 6 Protoss dragons, now 4 zerg, where are all the terrans?
4 of the top 10 for each year are Terran, and out of 60 total players, 27 of them are Terran, 18 are Zerg, and 15 are Protoss.
I've never seen a year where Terran was truly in a bad spot, though they are short on Starleague titles as of late.
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On January 08 2010 02:45 Atrioc wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2010 02:16 [Azn]Nada wrote:
3rd - JangBi - 56W 25L - 69.1%
4th - Stork - 55W 33L - 62.5%
5th - Kal - 55W 39L - 58.5%
6th - BeSt - 52W 22L - 71.1%
7th - Bisu - 51W 32L - 61.4%
Haha I remember back in those days, I stopped watching SC if there was protoss because it was generally a one sided rape. First 6 Protoss dragons, now 4 zerg, where are all the terrans? I've never seen a year where Terran was truly in a bad spot, though they are short on Starleague titles as of late.
Even more indication that Flash shall be the Savior.
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Free still has really good micro. He's actually very consistent if you notice. (His 57.8% winrate repeats itself twice in those two years). It is a consistent inconsistency, but there's a reason he's on all 3 lists when one dragon is only one (Best) and the only others on all 3 are Bisu/Stork.
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On January 08 2010 02:52 Nevuk wrote:
Free still has really good micro. He's actually very consistent if you notice. (His 57.8% winrate repeats itself twice in those two years). It is a consistent inconsistency, but there's a reason he's on all 3 lists when one dragon is only one (Best) and the only others on all 3 are Bisu/Stork.
BeSt had yet to really break out in 2007 I think. Then he slumped hard after EVER 2008.
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On January 08 2010 02:56 siv00 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2010 02:52 Nevuk wrote:
Free still has really good micro. He's actually very consistent if you notice. (His 57.8% winrate repeats itself twice in those two years). It is a consistent inconsistency, but there's a reason he's on all 3 lists when one dragon is only one (Best) and the only others on all 3 are Bisu/Stork. BeSt had yet to really break out in 2007 I think. Then he slumped hard after EVER 2008.
Yeah, that's kind of the point. Free is the only dragon to go without massive slumps. He has them but they only last like 3 months rather than Jangbi's half-year or Best's eons. Even when he started performing poorly for the last few months of last year it was only in his formerly best MU (PvZ) while he took his pvt to new heights. Plus he's the only one to have made Jaedong look silly in zvp in a series.
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On January 08 2010 03:02 Nevuk wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2010 02:56 siv00 wrote:On January 08 2010 02:52 Nevuk wrote:
Free still has really good micro. He's actually very consistent if you notice. (His 57.8% winrate repeats itself twice in those two years). It is a consistent inconsistency, but there's a reason he's on all 3 lists when one dragon is only one (Best) and the only others on all 3 are Bisu/Stork. BeSt had yet to really break out in 2007 I think. Then he slumped hard after EVER 2008. Yeah, that's kind of the point. Free is the only dragon to go without massive slumps. He has them but they only last like 3 months rather than Jangbi's half-year or Best's eons. Even when he started performing poorly for the last few months of last year it was only in his formerly best MU (PvZ) while he took his pvt to new heights. Plus he's the only one to have made Jaedong look silly in zvp in a series.
Rock >_>
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you'll notice that in 2009
one of the six dragons was killed
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Flash will pwn all these numbers in 2010
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On January 08 2010 03:02 Nevuk wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2010 02:56 siv00 wrote:On January 08 2010 02:52 Nevuk wrote:
Free still has really good micro. He's actually very consistent if you notice. (His 57.8% winrate repeats itself twice in those two years). It is a consistent inconsistency, but there's a reason he's on all 3 lists when one dragon is only one (Best) and the only others on all 3 are Bisu/Stork. BeSt had yet to really break out in 2007 I think. Then he slumped hard after EVER 2008. Yeah, that's kind of the point. Free is the only dragon to go without massive slumps. He has them but they only last like 3 months rather than Jangbi's half-year or Best's eons. Even when he started performing poorly for the last few months of last year it was only in his formerly best MU (PvZ) while he took his pvt to new heights. Plus he's the only one to have made Jaedong look silly in zvp in a series.
I mean BeSt only being on one list is irrelevant when he wasn't really considered good until 08.
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ahhh 2008, the year of the Dragons.
*sigh*
alas, I don't think they're as highly reguarded or successful as of late.
Was good times though!
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god konadora FTW ffs, great info i just needed it.
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It's interesting to see who stays consistently on top. But win/loss ratio isn't always a good indication of skill. Sometimes a player is really good, but doesn't get the wins to prove it, similar to Really before this season, Free, Skyhigh recently, Jangbi, etc.
Winning in the practice room is very different from winning on TV.
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On January 08 2010 03:24 ghostWriter wrote:
It's interesting to see who stays consistently on top. But win/loss ratio isn't always a good indication of skill. Sometimes a player is really good, but doesn't get the wins to prove it, similar to Really before this season, Free, Skyhigh recently, Jangbi, etc.
Winning in the practice room is very different from winning on TV.
of course its different winning on TV
but win-ratio matters as hell since it shows how stabile you are.
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On January 08 2010 03:24 ghostWriter wrote:
It's interesting to see who stays consistently on top. But win/loss ratio isn't always a good indication of skill. Sometimes a player is really good, but doesn't get the wins to prove it, similar to Really before this season, Free, Skyhigh recently, Jangbi, etc.
Winning in the practice room is very different from winning on TV.
Unfortunately it doesn't mean too much because I'm absolutely ballin' at Track and Field practice but I can't do squat at a meet.
Sure you're good but what matters is what you bring to the table. How well you do under pressure is part of the game and the measure of skill.
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On January 08 2010 03:46 BanZu wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2010 03:24 ghostWriter wrote:
It's interesting to see who stays consistently on top. But win/loss ratio isn't always a good indication of skill. Sometimes a player is really good, but doesn't get the wins to prove it, similar to Really before this season, Free, Skyhigh recently, Jangbi, etc.
Winning in the practice room is very different from winning on TV. Unfortunately it doesn't mean too much because I'm absolutely ballin' at Track and Field practice but I can't do squat at a meet. Sure you're good but what matters is what you bring to the table. How well you do under pressure is part of the game and the measure of skill.
seriously what do you actually mean?
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WTF...
Jaedong played almost 1.5 more times than his direct concurrents and he still have the best ratio?
How the fuck is this possible oO
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On January 08 2010 03:59 Weryeery wrote:
WTF...
Jaedong played almost 1.5 more times than his direct concurrents and he still have the best ratio?
How the fuck is this possible oO
Jaedong was a monster in 2009. Just like Flash will be in 2010
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On January 08 2010 03:52 NiGoL wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2010 03:46 BanZu wrote:On January 08 2010 03:24 ghostWriter wrote:
It's interesting to see who stays consistently on top. But win/loss ratio isn't always a good indication of skill. Sometimes a player is really good, but doesn't get the wins to prove it, similar to Really before this season, Free, Skyhigh recently, Jangbi, etc.
Winning in the practice room is very different from winning on TV. Unfortunately it doesn't mean too much because I'm absolutely ballin' at Track and Field practice but I can't do squat at a meet. Sure you're good but what matters is what you bring to the table. How well you do under pressure is part of the game and the measure of skill. seriously what do you actually mean?
You can be a beast during practice, like Magma was, but in the end, if you can't bring your results to games that matter, it doesn't mean much (like with Magma).
What's so hard to understand about my last post anyway? I'm not sure what you're not comprehending. :/
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Protoss on all 3 lists:  Bisu, Stork, free
Zerg on all 3 lists:  Jaedong, Luxury, Yarnc
Terran on all 3 lists:  Flash, Hwasin
Just thought that might be interesting to see.
e: TLPD-ized
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Is Winners League solely responsible for the large jump in number of games played from 2008 to 2009, or were there other factors at work here?
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i miss the days when fbh was awesome (against terran and zerg, he was always bad against toss)
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On January 08 2010 03:05 SuperArc wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2010 03:02 Nevuk wrote:On January 08 2010 02:56 siv00 wrote:On January 08 2010 02:52 Nevuk wrote:
Free still has really good micro. He's actually very consistent if you notice. (His 57.8% winrate repeats itself twice in those two years). It is a consistent inconsistency, but there's a reason he's on all 3 lists when one dragon is only one (Best) and the only others on all 3 are Bisu/Stork. BeSt had yet to really break out in 2007 I think. Then he slumped hard after EVER 2008. Yeah, that's kind of the point. Free is the only dragon to go without massive slumps. He has them but they only last like 3 months rather than Jangbi's half-year or Best's eons. Even when he started performing poorly for the last few months of last year it was only in his formerly best MU (PvZ) while he took his pvt to new heights. Plus he's the only one to have made Jaedong look silly in zvp in a series. Rock >_>
I mean, after Jaedong was good at zvp.
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Savior lied to me. He said he would destroy everyone in 2009, not be destroyed by everyone.
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On January 08 2010 02:02 dukethegold wrote:
I knew that Jangbi used to be way up there, but didn't know his win rate was that high...which begs the question just what the hell happened to him.
Among other things, he stopped raping yarnc every third game he played.
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On January 08 2010 01:54 konadora wrote:Basically, most number of 'official wins' in a year. ▶ 2009 10th - Light - 46 % 34 L - 57.5% Source: Fomos.kr
haha wtf man ;D. did you re-wrote all these from somewhere manually?
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Zerg making a comeback and Protoss desapearing T_T
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Roffles
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On January 08 2010 05:53 Mindcrime wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2010 02:02 dukethegold wrote:
I knew that Jangbi used to be way up there, but didn't know his win rate was that high...which begs the question just what the hell happened to him. Among other things, he stopped raping yarnc every third game he played.
Haha. So true. But as of late, he's beginning to pick it up, and has been showing us some actually decent games.
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jaedong a HUNDRED wins in 2009 (at 140(!!) games). thats _insane_. his management must have been totally stoned. are they crazy? Now, it becomes clear why he is having physical and mental problems right now. In this way, you are gonna ruin every player. this is totally irresponsible. screw them.
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I wished I could still see nada's name in the 2009 list...
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konadora
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On January 08 2010 05:48 Probe. wrote:
Savior lied to me. He said he would destroy everyone in 2009, not be destroyed by everyone.
Only the true believers can see the truth beyond the truth.
On January 08 2010 06:05 ProoM wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2010 01:54 konadora wrote:Basically, most number of 'official wins' in a year. ▶ 2009 10th - Light - 46 % 34 L - 57.5% Source: Fomos.kr haha wtf man ;D. did you re-wrote all these from somewhere manually?
WOOPS
haha yeah, spent like 15 minutes writing out the statistics manually T__T
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On January 08 2010 09:41 konadora wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2010 05:48 Probe. wrote:
Savior lied to me. He said he would destroy everyone in 2009, not be destroyed by everyone. Only the true believers can see the truth beyond the truth. Show nested quote +On January 08 2010 06:05 ProoM wrote:On January 08 2010 01:54 konadora wrote:Basically, most number of 'official wins' in a year. ▶ 2009 10th - Light - 46 % 34 L - 57.5% Source: Fomos.kr haha wtf man ;D. did you re-wrote all these from somewhere manually? WOOPS haha yeah, spent like 15 minutes writing out the statistics manually T__T
>.<
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