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I know there have been tons of topics about good gaming mice and keyboards, and its all indivual to your taste but if you could have any gear in the world (keyboard, mouse, mouse pad, headset and speakers) what would you have? Specifically for RTS (I only play SC but for the purpose of being broad.)
What I basically want to know is your experience with the equipment, so I can ultimately find the best set up for RTS games. Also this experience may help my understanding of the general gaming gear. For example I dont know what the difference is between hard and soft mouse pads, does anyone know?
Anyhow I know the best mouse is probably the salmosa (From friends and such, but I could be wrong.) I have absolutely no idea of a good keyboard and headset, or mouse pad for that matter.
Hopefully you might be able to tell me what gear is designed for FPS, as i would rather not buy a headset that was designed for FPS as they tend to focus on Audio tracking too much.
From my understanding i would have thought the best possible gear for RTS would be:
Mouse: Razer salmosa
Keyboard: maybe a cheap Logitech or is the more expensive Razer tarantula but I am not sure it is worth it (maybe someone could tell me?)
Mouse pad: Razer Sphex
Headset: Razer Megalodon
I am a bit of a razer fan admittadly. But I havent tried half the stuff on this list and I was lured in by the glitzy website. And most of us dont have 3 billion of your chosen currency to spend.
Anyways could someone give their experience so I dont spend twice as much on something that is half as good? Cheers.
Sorry if this is one of thoose threads that have to be closed instantly because its faulty or w/e :D
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mouse: the most comfortable your hands fit - for me logitech mx518 or the g5
keyboard: the most comfortable your hands fit - for me logitech g15 or cheap dell
best possible gaming gear: level head with monitor and good amount of brain material inside.
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thats some nice tips right there iceburn but wad about mousepad???
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Dont spend any? You don't need it.
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High end gaming equipment has little place in StarCraft (and to my understanding it is also limited in other rtses) because dpi is not even close to being as important as in some high resolution fps games and such, if you're not accurate enough then there's something wrong with your brain/hands, not the mouse.
After all the most important thing is the shape of the mouse, and different people obviously have different hands thus its impossible to say for sure which mouse is the best.
Keyboard should be fine as long as its not one that doesn't let you press multiple keys at once, imho. the only good thing in expensive keyboards is the easier way of making macros, but if you're a competitive rts player that isn't going to be too useful for you.
Tasteless made a good article about choosing the right keyboard a while ago, you might want to look around for it. He basically suggests you just buy an old cheap keyboard that feels nice for your fingers and how to mod it for SC.
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Microsoft intelli 3.0 + steelseries qck+ heavy + random headset... way cheaper than what you posted. You don't need a good headset for RTS compared to FPS games.
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oh yea mousepad, paper taped to the desk. i prefer the office depot white paper :p
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I have a razer keyboard, I don't like the way its set up. I bought the Lycosa. It is a pretty keyboard admittedly. However the keys are kind of flat and undefined and I have always found that to be an issue for a keyboard. I get kind of lost on the keyboard sometimes.
I think in a blog I posted someone said Cherry keyboard or something like that?
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=104531
Heres blog link. I have a lachesis and a Salmosa. I have a bigger hand so I like the Lachesis. However both are really nice mice. I also have a Razer Barracuda. The sound is shit for music and its uncomfortable on my ears for more than an hour. If you are REALLY looking for good shit without worrying about cost a friend of mine has an Astro headset that used a digital optical in for surround sound with an Xbox360, it had other inputs as well. It honestly had the BEST sound I have ever heard in a pair of headphones as well as the most comfortable thing I have ever worn on my head. He got them as part of a Halo 3 sponsorship but he said they run 300$ and come with a lifetime warranty.
If I could have any headset, I would have that. but the Barracuda isn't horrible.
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Yea, the thing is this is largely preference, and you will have to end up trying stuff and finding what you like.
Still, it is a good idea to come up with a range of products which are quality and fit the intended purpose. Hardly anyone tries out lots of hardware and knows what they are talking about though. Still, I can give a good range.
Mouse:
Razer Abyss (basically new salmosa, no prediction, but bit different shell)
Razer Salmosa (small and least expensive good option...used to be $20)
Steelseries xai/kinzu
Razer Orchi (their mobile mouse, small so perhaps worth checking out)
Logitech G9x
Perhaps microsoft sidewinder series
Mousepad:
There are hard mats, cloth mats, and stuff in between.
Like I said before I like hard/cloth hybrid such as steelseries 5l, razer megasoma, puretek talent.
Keyboard:
Different styles depend on layout, switches: mechanical, rubber, scissors. This seems to be less important than the two things above.
Funny how people always have to come in these threads and give 1 line comments about how they use the cheapest gear possible. Not really.
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Headset doesn't matter as long as you can hear DTs killing your units.
Mouse and keyboard need to be comfortable and cheap so that you can easily replace them since massgaming reduces their lifetime a lot.
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kinzu has reverse acceleration hardware issues, google it
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Well just about every progamer uses a Logitech mini or a Logitech g1 so there must be something to it.
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if you don't have the skills to be a top player, there really isn't any point in getting ridiculously expensive equipment.
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logitech mini optical for mouse obviously. Salmosa is apparantly decent, but why bother. It's more expensive and less comfortable.
Any cheap keyboard. I use some cheap logitech keyboard that cost £3.50.
I use Fellowes Microban large mouse pad. Alternatively, any other cheap mouse pad (flexible one so you can travel with it) that costs less than $8.
Headset - I've got nice headphones cause I like listening to music in super high quality, but for SC it doesn't matter at all. I used to use the sound from my Laptop with no headphones at all.
So basically you should be able to get this set-up for about what any of those products you listed cost by themselves. And for god's sake, don't be suckered in to buying a G5 or other modern expensive gaming mouse/keyboard. They're a rip off that don't help you at all. Not for SC anyway.
Oh and the Samsung DT-35 or whatever keyboard that all the pros use is no better or worse than any other cheap keyboard, so don't listen to anyone telling you to buy it because it's what pro players use.
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On January 07 2010 02:08 Piy wrote:
logitech mini optical for mouse obviously. Salmosa is apparantly decent, but why bother. It's more expensive and less comfortable.
Any cheap keyboard. I use some cheap logitech keyboard that cost £3.50.
I use Fellowes Microban large mouse pad. Alternatively, any other cheap mouse pad (flexible one so you can travel with it) that costs less than $8.
Headset - I've got nice headphones cause I like listening to music in super high quality, but for SC it doesn't matter at all. I used to use the sound from my Laptop with no headphones at all.
So basically you should be able to get this set-up for about what any of those products you listed cost by themselves. And for god's sake, don't be suckered in to buying a G5 or other modern expensive gaming mouse/keyboard. They're a rip off that don't help you at all. Not for SC anyway.
Oh and the Samsung DT-35 or whatever keyboard that all the pros use is no better or worse than any other cheap keyboard, so don't listen to anyone telling you to buy it because it's what pro players use.
This.
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Logitech G1 or Mini Optical + Qsenn dt35 of course
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I had an mx815 1600 dpi and 1800 dpi and they worked great. I bought a razer lacheis and it didn't feel right in my hand at first, but no mouse that's new usually does. After I got used to it I didn't notice any difference.
I think the mx815 is pretty solid.
As for keyboard, as long as the windows key is removed it doesn't really matter. It's just like the mouse... whatever you're used to using is what you'll get comfortable with. I like the G15 though for the macros for other games, but you can 3rd party that with any keyboard.
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On January 07 2010 02:25 starcraft911 wrote:
I had an mx815 1600 dpi and 1800 dpi and they worked great. I bought a razer lacheis and it didn't feel right in my hand at first, but no mouse that's new usually does. After I got used to it I didn't notice any difference.
I think the mx815 is pretty solid.
As for keyboard, as long as the windows key is removed it doesn't really matter. It's just like the mouse... whatever you're used to using is what you'll get comfortable with. I like the G15 though for the macros for other games, but you can 3rd party that with any keyboard.
Don't you mean mx518? The mx518 is an awesome mouse for FPS but is far too bulky and heavy for RTS. It also forces your hand into one position, which is ideal for FPS, but is not favourable for RTS where you tend to change grip at various stages in the game.
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Seems to have answered my questions, cheers. I guess there is no validity in buying an expensive keyboard, when the cheap ones seem so much more effective.
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