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AltaiR_
Korea (South)922 Posts
On April 02 2010 03:17 Xenocide_Knight wrote: ok thats why we decided to let you guys play someone twice.. I don't see what the problem is, this arrangement only favors you guys none of us like it, its not very fitting. plus its harder to arrange people/sniping with map reuse | ||
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RandomAccount#49059
United States2140 Posts
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AltaiR_
Korea (South)922 Posts
On April 02 2010 03:53 stormtemplar wrote: If we do Bo5 neither me or Kcrazy will get to play. It would suck that way. One of your players can play twice, and your argument makes no sense how does it not make sense. i'll make it simpler. you guys = 6 people, us = not 6 people. doing a modified bo7 = awkward, doing bo5 like we did all league = nothing changes, everything's still fair. | ||
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RandomAccount#49059
United States2140 Posts
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dschoe
Korea (South)58 Posts
plus, i really don't see what the problem is with letting a player repeat. would you rather give us a w/o? | ||
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KCrazy
United States278 Posts
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AltaiR_
Korea (South)922 Posts
On April 02 2010 04:26 dschoe wrote: just curious, if it really is the case that everyone (that is, all team) favors Bo5 over Bo7, how did we even come to decide Bo7? because i remember that majority of participants agreed on Bo7 when PO started. plus, i really don't see what the problem is with letting a player repeat. would you rather give us a w/o? On February 14 2010 13:44 l10f wrote: Except some teams have one player that never shows up On February 15 2010 07:21 Nytefish wrote: It's kind of unfair for teams that just happened to have unmotivated players. i dont think so. most of the "agreement" came from xenocide or pyrodog (who also had a few missing players on their team) | ||
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numLoCK
Canada1416 Posts
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
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LCC
Canada348 Posts
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Nytefish
United Kingdom4282 Posts
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RandomAccount#49059
United States2140 Posts
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AltaiR_
Korea (South)922 Posts
On April 02 2010 07:49 stormtemplar wrote: Again, I don't want Bo5 because I want to play, it's unfair, we've offered an easy solution, one that will let you play your ace twice before it reaches the ace match, and yet, you come up with a dumb reason. It's not difficult to pretend that your ace is actually two people. It's ridiculous to argue, its stupid, and it punishes us because you refuse to do five seconds more work. You've come up with no good reason, other than your laziness to do a little extra work. ...what part of MY argument is about being lazy? i'm not the person who does lineups, our coach does. it's not just easy to alter our lineup, if you want to play, convince your coach why you should go out instead of your teammates, the rest of us didnt have the fortune for our coach to hand pick such a person as yourself. and tbh letting us use a player twice and not be allowed to play a third time for ACE is a dumber reason to keep this than bo5. | ||
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Ruken
United States858 Posts
On April 02 2010 07:49 stormtemplar wrote: Again, I don't want Bo5 because I want to play, it's unfair, we've offered an easy solution, one that will let you play your ace twice before it reaches the ace match, and yet, you come up with a dumb reason. It's not difficult to pretend that your ace is actually two people. It's ridiculous to argue, its stupid, and it punishes us because you refuse to do five seconds more work. You've come up with no good reason, other than your laziness to do a little extra work. Storm, you should be more urbane and diplomatic. After all, you're seen as representing our team when you post in this topic. | ||
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Xenocide_Knight
Korea (South)2625 Posts
On April 02 2010 10:42 Ruken wrote: Storm, you should be more urban and diplomat. After all, you're seen as representing our team when you post in this topic. fixed | ||
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Loli
60 Posts
No, I believe he did mean urbane.  | ||
l10f
United States3241 Posts
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AltaiR_
Korea (South)922 Posts
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Xenocide_Knight
Korea (South)2625 Posts
On April 02 2010 13:27 AltaiR_ wrote: so we are never going to reach an accord, MIK? what does your team say? Our team already had a meeting and we agree that a Bo7 with any non-ace coming out double is a easy and diplomatic solution. Especially if one of your teammates has multiple personalities, then its really good. A Bo5 is not as fair to our (and your) less played players. Well not really, but it would be nice for them to have the ability to contribute. Also, we feel that a Bo7 would make the games more exciting because of the greater skill gap possibility in all the matches. (opens the doors for crazy upsets, and crazy snipes) Another alternative that came up was a Bo21 but we use a random generator to pick players for each match. I have a lot of UMS maps that are basically random generators (like russian roulette) and it would be really fun(ny). Maps could just rotate between the 5 CPL maps in an order l10f would decide. OR we could have an UMS tournament where we pick random UMS maps and have a Bo11 series. or Bo43. it doesnt really matter either which way I suppose the last alternative would be that we play Bo5 but we decide to send out our less-played players instead of our A-team lineup. Unfortunately, in my culture, trying anything less than your best is a terrible dishonor and insult to your opponent so, for cultural reasons, I am against a Bo5 (we cant send our A-lineup for a Bo5 for fairness issues. If we did send out our A-lineup, we'd be nazis/communists/zombies so for ethical reasons, I am against a Bo5.) EDIT: bolding the two best choices IMO | ||
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numLoCK
Canada1416 Posts
Our less played players are less played because the vanished and never earned a position in the lineup again. Honestly I don't think anything is more fair than "earn your own spot on the lineup". And I mean, maybe its just me, but if we play Bo5 all season then I think the finals should also be Bo5. Strength in a Bo5 is what was emphasized all season, and changing the format for the final seems to go against that. | ||
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