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Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
November 27 2009 02:28 GMT
#21
When I tested with all upgrades, the Archon beat the Ultra.
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lone_hydra
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada1460 Posts
November 27 2009 02:30 GMT
#22
In response to the OP saying it is based on who gets the first hit:

Archon always gets first hit
it has range
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KingFool
Profile Joined January 2008
Canada428 Posts
November 27 2009 02:36 GMT
#23
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=80825
On October 23 2008 00:41 Chill wrote:
Why? To what end is this discussion serving?
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DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
November 27 2009 02:56 GMT
#24
Archons > ultras =D. IMO.
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EvoChamber
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France2505 Posts
November 27 2009 03:24 GMT
#25
Inc would win. Not sure about CharlieMurphy though.
That's not awful writing, DAMMIT. It's perfectly sensical english construction.
Ganfei
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Taiwan1439 Posts
November 27 2009 03:25 GMT
#26
On November 27 2009 10:39 konadora wrote:
archons always win 1v1, they even did this test on MBCGame

12 archons vs 12 ultralisks, 12 ultralisks lost


I'm not sure where the 12=1 comes into your reasoning
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PangO
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Chile1870 Posts
November 27 2009 03:32 GMT
#27
On November 27 2009 11:28 Holgerius wrote:
When I tested with all upgrades, the Archon beat the Ultra.

Yea me too weird, 2vs2 might be the splash and so on..
1v1 hard to tell
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Mobius
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1268 Posts
November 27 2009 03:33 GMT
#28
On November 27 2009 10:27 hyst.eric.al wrote:
archons are still more effective though because of splash.

yeah, and they can attack air, and they can storm before going into archon, and they have longer range, and they arent bio, + Show Spoiler +
IMBA much?
Entusman #51
DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
November 27 2009 03:38 GMT
#29
dude all im saying is. i'd rather have an archon than an ultra
archons have splash + rechargable shields

think about it. 2 hts = 4 storms + archon

;] much better
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Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-27 03:51:32
November 27 2009 03:51 GMT
#30
On November 27 2009 12:38 DreaM)XeRO wrote:
dude all im saying is. i'd rather have an archon than an ultra
archons have splash + rechargable shields

think about it. 2 hts = 4 storms + archon

;] much better


200/200 vs. 100/300
...

And the Ultralisk can regenerate up to 400 HP vs the 350 Shields

Hrmmmmmm think about that ;D
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kaleidoscope
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Singapore2887 Posts
November 27 2009 04:01 GMT
#31
Ultra > Archon in swarms
Archons > Ultras with splash (note the plural)
Ultra > Archon in economic aspect (resources required + occupying 2 gateway)

Conclusion:
Archons > Ultras (splash)
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Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
November 27 2009 04:05 GMT
#32
On November 27 2009 12:33 Mobius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2009 10:27 hyst.eric.al wrote:
archons are still more effective though because of splash.

yeah, and they can attack air, and they can storm before going into archon, and they have longer range, and they arent bio, + Show Spoiler +
IMBA much?


they float over mines too
zergnewb
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States816 Posts
November 27 2009 04:11 GMT
#33
Yeah but it feels like archons die easier. Plus one EMP and it is completely useless. Nothing I can think of that renders an Ultra completely useless immediately besides maelstrom, which doesn't last long, and mind control, but that effects archons the same.
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Chen
Profile Joined June 2009
United States6344 Posts
November 27 2009 04:17 GMT
#34
On November 27 2009 12:51 Amber[LighT] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2009 12:38 DreaM)XeRO wrote:
dude all im saying is. i'd rather have an archon than an ultra
archons have splash + rechargable shields

think about it. 2 hts = 4 storms + archon

;] much better


200/200 vs. 100/300
...

And the Ultralisk can regenerate up to 400 HP vs the 350 Shields

Hrmmmmmm think about that ;D

Regen HP what a joke lol. If you have a Ultra sitting around waiting for its HP to recover(~5 min at least, probably closer to 10)... you need to learn how to play this game. Archons have batteries that work in like 2 seconds.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
November 27 2009 04:30 GMT
#35
On November 27 2009 13:11 zergnewb wrote:
Yeah but it feels like archons die easier. Plus one EMP and it is completely useless. Nothing I can think of that renders an Ultra completely useless immediately besides maelstrom, which doesn't last long, and mind control, but that effects archons the same.

Terrans have irridiate, having a 100 hp ultra is almost as useless as a 10 hp archon
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zergnewb
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States816 Posts
November 27 2009 04:36 GMT
#36
I considered that. But seeing as how it takes a while for irradiate to work then it isn't immediate . Also an irradiated Ultra still has an opportunity to be useful. If it is irradiated during a battle then you can plague T's marines. But my ZvT sucks so I have no idea lol.
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unionbank
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Australia666 Posts
November 27 2009 04:44 GMT
#37
LOL THIS KINDA STUFF IS ALREADY TESTED AND BUSTED ON ONGAMENETS MANNER PYLON WHERE KINGDOM ( THE CASTER ) DOES ALL OF THIS STUFF LOL... YOU ARE OLD DOING THIS STUFF AHAHHAHAH
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TwoStep
Profile Joined January 2009
United States294 Posts
November 27 2009 04:48 GMT
#38
On November 27 2009 13:30 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2009 13:11 zergnewb wrote:
Yeah but it feels like archons die easier. Plus one EMP and it is completely useless. Nothing I can think of that renders an Ultra completely useless immediately besides maelstrom, which doesn't last long, and mind control, but that effects archons the same.

Terrans have irridiate, having a 100 hp ultra is almost as useless as a 10 hp archon

It's not, how many times do you see irradiated ultralisks tear into MnM groups?
Arf
ghermination
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States2851 Posts
November 27 2009 05:03 GMT
#39
On November 27 2009 13:48 TwoStep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2009 13:30 arb wrote:
On November 27 2009 13:11 zergnewb wrote:
Yeah but it feels like archons die easier. Plus one EMP and it is completely useless. Nothing I can think of that renders an Ultra completely useless immediately besides maelstrom, which doesn't last long, and mind control, but that effects archons the same.

Terrans have irridiate, having a 100 hp ultra is almost as useless as a 10 hp archon

It's not, how many times do you see irradiated ultralisks tear into MnM groups?


This. Probably the worst move a terran could make would be to irradiate a bunch of full HP ultras that are attacking his rines, considering the irradiate doesn't kill them that quickly and does massive splash damage to the rines.
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On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
November 27 2009 05:09 GMT
#40
Power Overwhelming > all.
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