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I've been wondering for a while now whether an archon or ultralisk would win in a 1 on 1 battle, so i did what any person bored during thanksgiving beak would do: test it out.
So i went to single player and yada yada......mc a drone.....yada yada....and then i made only archons and ultralisks
so what i did was i fully upgraded both the archon and ultralisk (archon: 3,3,3 ultra: 5,3)
i did 11 battles of 1 archon vs 1 ultralisk and here were my results:
archon 5:6 ultralisk
the most important thing i noticed, though, was which of the two got the first hit.
Usually if the archon got the first hit, it won, but with about 6 hp left, whereas if the ultra got the first hit, it would win with 8 hp left. So they are about even and the deciding factor was the first hit.
i havent tried out 0 upgrades yet or different combination of upgrades, but im inclined to think that the one with higher upgrades would win with slightly higher hp
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archons are still more effective though because of splash.
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cool story bro.
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... what's the point? You will almost never have this sort of 1 on 1 situation, largely because these two units should never be engaging each other head-on. Ideally Archons would be sitting behind Ultras and doing massive splash damage.
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Well i guess most of the time Archon just dont have the 3 plasma upg up.
So definetly ultra would win. Of course, 2 Archons vs 2 Ultras, i wouldn't know.
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Archons are way cooler though. Their pimpness factor is off the radar, so despite hard numbers, always remember that archons>all.
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i knew it! my f l will hear me. thx buddy
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On November 27 2009 10:30 Schnake wrote:
Archons are way cooler though. Their pimpness factor is off the radar, so despite hard numbers, always remember that archons>all.
plus it's nal_ra's favorite unit 
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Archon vs Cattlebruiser gogogo
Also archons hit air, and are in a sense made for free if you just merge two HT whose energy has all just been used.
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Yea, but the Ultralisk will also usually have dark swarm and rape the archons.
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konadora
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archons always win 1v1, they even did this test on MBCGame
12 archons vs 12 ultralisks, 12 ultralisks lost
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On November 27 2009 10:39 konadora wrote:
archons always win 1v1, they even did this test on MBCGame
12 archons vs 12 ultralisks, 12 ultralisks lost
well thats cause of splash..
How about 1v1......
and ultras get the extra defence that archons cant get.. and attack bonus too when you upgrade.
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Wow, thats actually interesting. I always thought ultralisks were stronger. I'm going to make more archons now :D
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archon has like 3 range, how can the ultra hit him first??
and, if u micro it back and hold position archon would always win..
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On November 27 2009 10:37 boredcouch wrote:
Yea, but the Ultralisk will also usually have dark swarm and rape the archons.
indeed, making me a sad panda.
Having some DTs in your unit mix late game actually fares rather well against a zerg army with swarm though.
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On November 27 2009 10:27 hyst.eric.al wrote:
archons are still more effective though because of splash.
ultras are still more effective becouse of the swarm.
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On November 27 2009 10:53 Piste wrote:Show nested quote +On November 27 2009 10:27 hyst.eric.al wrote:
archons are still more effective though because of splash. ultras are still more effective becouse of the swarm.
splash is the archons inherent ability. Same cannot be said for ultra/swarm.
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On November 27 2009 10:30 Schnake wrote:
Archons are way cooler though. Their pimpness factor is off the radar, so despite hard numbers, always remember that archons>all.
Agree.
edit: also, why didnt you do this test with 0-0 upgrades or standard protoss 2 weapon 1 armor vs zerg standard 1 weapon 2 armor?
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Archons have a critical mass. I think they're the only valid P ground unit to have one, but after you get around 30 there's no real Z unit composition that stands much of a chance as long as you have 2 templars or 2-3 reavers to deal with tons of hydras.
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On November 27 2009 10:39 konadora wrote:
archons always win 1v1, they even did this test on MBCGame
12 archons vs 12 ultralisks, 12 ultralisks lost
Actually I also think an archon wins 1v1. Although the op has different results, I've tested this in the past (v1.09 or 1.10) and archon always won even if ultra got the armor upgrade. (0-0 vs 0-2 and 3-3 vs 3-5)
but then again this is the most recent test so maybe that's how it is now.
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