StarCraft AI Competition (2010) - Page 4

Human Advantages:
Imagined Prediction Advantage
Flexible Stategies
Arguably Faster Learning

AI Advantages:
Able to command all units at once
Usually More efficient w/ resources
Instant Macro management

Korean Advantages:
Superior Strategies
Advanced Prediction
Flexible Tactics
Arguably Faster Learning
Able to command all units at once
Usually More efficient w/ resources
Instant Macro management

On November 14 2009 01:17 GHOSTCLAW wrote:
from slashdot


Clever

On November 13 2009 23:39 azndsh wrote:
This problem is so much harder than a lot of you are giving credit for. In fact the more I think about it, the more I'm convinced that an AI developed by anything less than a full-time development team of really good players would have any semblance of a chance against a top human player.

StarCraft is such a bad game to try to develop an AI for in the sense that there's just way too much knowledge required to play the game. Add to it the element of scouting and fog of war just makes the game unbelievably difficult for AI to play.


4 pool alone isn't trivial, but multiply this by 100 and you get about how hard SC is to play at the D+/C- level.

However, I could imagine there being really good AI's for specific tasks, such as microing small number of units that could play out certain situations almost perfectly. (Stage 1)

If you really wanted to make a strong AI for a game, it would make a lot more sense to pick a different genre such as turn-based strategy (Civ), fighting games (SF4), or even first-person shooters (HL).

On November 14 2009 03:30 Bill307 wrote:
If someone wants to make a TLnet team AI, I'm in. In fact, I think we should totally make one.

I have a lot of ideas, but no time to program them.

On November 14 2009 02:41 SirKibbleX wrote:
If you've ever lost to one of the game's pre-built AIs when you were first learning SC, then you know that its possible for a comp to beat a human. In fact, a good AI is theoretically much, much better than you. I await the programmer who can 'prove' whether or not a probe/drone can kill well-micro'd terran workers without taking a single hit.

The beauty of this competition is that it will inevitably lead to newer, better modules. If someone can focus all their effort on one small task, like one person focuses purely on perfecting zergling vs. zergling combat for the micro competition, and another person focuses purely on writing a code for optimizing psionic storms, the larger AIs will be able to take those small-scale functions and algorithms and apply them to create a better and better system. I'd say in 2-3 years the AI could be able to beat humans 100%, but AIs may continue to become better and better and better...