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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36392 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-14 07:35:00
October 14 2009 03:19 GMT
#261
On October 14 2009 12:01 Urth wrote:
I have a question. I can understand the player prices, but with teams, why is it so weird? Skt1 still costs the most, while stx dominated last season

On October 14 2009 12:08 lazz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2009 12:01 Urth wrote:
I have a question. I can understand the player prices, but with teams, why is it so weird? Skt1 still costs the most, while stx dominated last season


it's based on how many points they generated. stx won a lot, but they didn't get many 3-0s, which is where the big points are. skt got lots of 3-0s, which is what makes them more expensive.

That's not entirely true.

In addition to their scores last round, the team prices are adjusted up or down depending on playoff performance. If you strictly went by last round, it would look something like this:

STX 8
KTF 6
SKT 6
CJE 4

But since STX performed poorly in playoffs, CJ performed great, and SKT won the whole thing, the prices were adjusted to this:

STX 6
KTF 5
SKT 8
CJE 6
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
Ver
Profile Joined October 2008
United States2186 Posts
October 14 2009 05:14 GMT
#262
How were players calculated then? It seems like a mix of their overall and R5 stats? Or were the playoffs a factor too?
Liquipedia
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-14 05:37:57
October 14 2009 05:36 GMT
#263
Hahaha holy shit how did my all KT gimmick team get 9th place? I don't even have Luxury.

I guess the good anti team helps, regardless of Oz rolling peeps and giving lomo 2 points.
Remember Violet.
lazz
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia3119 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-14 06:01:52
October 14 2009 05:58 GMT
#264
On October 14 2009 12:19 Hot_Bid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2009 12:01 Urth wrote:
I have a question. I can understand the player prices, but with teams, why is it so weird? Skt1 still costs the most, while stx dominated last season

Show nested quote +
On October 14 2009 12:08 lazz wrote:
On October 14 2009 12:01 Urth wrote:
I have a question. I can understand the player prices, but with teams, why is it so weird? Skt1 still costs the most, while stx dominated last season


it's based on how many points they generated. stx won a lot, but they didn't get many 3-0s, which is where the big points are. skt got lots of 3-0s, which is what makes them more expensive.

That's not entirely true.

In addition to their scores last round, the team prices are adjusted up or down depending on playoff performance. If you strictly went by last round, it would look something like this:

STX 8
KTF 6
SKT 6
CJE 4

But since STX performed poorly in playoffs, CJ performed great, and SKT won the whole thing, the prices were adjusted to this:

STX 6
KTF 5
SKT 7
CJE 6



I did not know this. now I regret picking SKT

oh and week 1 was a disaster for me. my team went 6-4 overall, with two missed line up appearances. such mediocrity.

On October 14 2009 14:59 Hot_Bid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2009 14:58 lazz wrote:
On October 14 2009 12:19 Hot_Bid wrote:
On October 14 2009 12:01 Urth wrote:
I have a question. I can understand the player prices, but with teams, why is it so weird? Skt1 still costs the most, while stx dominated last season

On October 14 2009 12:08 lazz wrote:
On October 14 2009 12:01 Urth wrote:
I have a question. I can understand the player prices, but with teams, why is it so weird? Skt1 still costs the most, while stx dominated last season


it's based on how many points they generated. stx won a lot, but they didn't get many 3-0s, which is where the big points are. skt got lots of 3-0s, which is what makes them more expensive.

That's not entirely true.

In addition to their scores last round, the team prices are adjusted up or down depending on playoff performance. If you strictly went by last round, it would look something like this:

STX 8
KTF 6
SKT 6
CJE 4

But since STX performed poorly in playoffs, CJ performed great, and SKT won the whole thing, the prices were adjusted to this:

STX 6
KTF 5
SKT 7
CJE 6


I did not know this. now I regret picking SKT

You had all the information available to you, including last season's statistics. I mean, you looked, saw SKT @ 7 points, and still thought that was worth a pick, so obviously it was a good adjustment no?


im sure it was available to me but I just didn't go looking for it. I assumed it was based entirely on previous round performance. my mistake I guess

and SKT was 8 points this round, iirc.
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36392 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-14 07:35:22
October 14 2009 05:59 GMT
#265
On October 14 2009 14:58 lazz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2009 12:19 Hot_Bid wrote:
On October 14 2009 12:01 Urth wrote:
I have a question. I can understand the player prices, but with teams, why is it so weird? Skt1 still costs the most, while stx dominated last season

On October 14 2009 12:08 lazz wrote:
On October 14 2009 12:01 Urth wrote:
I have a question. I can understand the player prices, but with teams, why is it so weird? Skt1 still costs the most, while stx dominated last season


it's based on how many points they generated. stx won a lot, but they didn't get many 3-0s, which is where the big points are. skt got lots of 3-0s, which is what makes them more expensive.

That's not entirely true.

In addition to their scores last round, the team prices are adjusted up or down depending on playoff performance. If you strictly went by last round, it would look something like this:

STX 8
KTF 6
SKT 6
CJE 4

But since STX performed poorly in playoffs, CJ performed great, and SKT won the whole thing, the prices were adjusted to this:

STX 6
KTF 5
SKT 7
CJE 6


I did not know this. now I regret picking SKT

You had all the information available to you, including last season's statistics. I mean, you looked, saw SKT @ 8 points, and still thought that was worth a pick, so obviously it was a good adjustment no?
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-14 06:01:43
October 14 2009 06:00 GMT
#266
Holy shit my fantasy team is going way up now.
+ Show Spoiler +

(Z)EffOrt as captain(<3 (Z)EffOrt)
(T)sKyHigh on the team(nice comeback)
CJ as my team(just won 3-0!)

no one on my anti team even played ;D
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
October 14 2009 06:03 GMT
#267
LOL JAEDONG. Wow.
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36392 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-14 06:07:21
October 14 2009 06:07 GMT
#268
At Blizzcon, some pros said that Hwaseung coaches boasted that they could make playoffs without using Jaedong for any aces in Round 1. I didn't think it was serious but LOL at what happened tonight hahahaha.

edit: GL JAEDONG OWNERS
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
lazz
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia3119 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-14 06:12:36
October 14 2009 06:09 GMT
#269
holy shit i have killer on my fantasy team

[Mod edit: your comment is completely appropriate, so I edited it back in. Congrats! You are one of the 19 proud owners of Killer, the new Oz Ace]
Phelix
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1931 Posts
October 14 2009 06:11 GMT
#270
On October 14 2009 15:07 Hot_Bid wrote:
At Blizzcon, some pros said that Hwaseung coaches boasted that they could make playoffs without using Jaedong for any aces in Round 1. I didn't think it was serious but LOL at what happened tonight hahahaha.

edit: GL JAEDONG OWNERS


Really, then 794 owners are going to be up in arms!
At least KT is smart enough to use Flash in every Ace.
Venture Capital is better off spent on lottery tickets rather than investing in E-Sports; you'll get a far better return. The difference is simple: Koreans are tryharding at the game, foreigners are tryharding in real-life.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11562 Posts
October 14 2009 06:11 GMT
#271
hahaha fuck
no jaedong ace? ;_;
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
pachi
Profile Joined October 2006
Melbourne5338 Posts
October 14 2009 06:12 GMT
#272
On October 14 2009 15:11 Phelix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2009 15:07 Hot_Bid wrote:
At Blizzcon, some pros said that Hwaseung coaches boasted that they could make playoffs without using Jaedong for any aces in Round 1. I didn't think it was serious but LOL at what happened tonight hahahaha.

edit: GL JAEDONG OWNERS


Really, then 794 owners are going to be up in arms!
At least KT is smart enough to use Flash in every Ace.


So you think...
Moderatorpachi fanclub http://goto.tl/6DI9 。◕‿◕。
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36392 Posts
October 14 2009 06:13 GMT
#273
On October 14 2009 15:11 Phelix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2009 15:07 Hot_Bid wrote:
At Blizzcon, some pros said that Hwaseung coaches boasted that they could make playoffs without using Jaedong for any aces in Round 1. I didn't think it was serious but LOL at what happened tonight hahahaha.

edit: GL JAEDONG OWNERS


Really, then 794 owners are going to be up in arms!
At least KT is smart enough to use Flash in every Ace.

I was like 80% sure they would've sent Lux on Outsider for Ace if it went 2-2 last time.
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
October 14 2009 06:24 GMT
#274
On October 14 2009 15:11 Phelix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2009 15:07 Hot_Bid wrote:
At Blizzcon, some pros said that Hwaseung coaches boasted that they could make playoffs without using Jaedong for any aces in Round 1. I didn't think it was serious but LOL at what happened tonight hahahaha.

edit: GL JAEDONG OWNERS


Really, then 794 owners are going to be up in arms!
At least KT is smart enough to use Flash in every Ace.


... wait, what? Are you serious?
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
October 14 2009 06:26 GMT
#275
On October 14 2009 15:07 Hot_Bid wrote:
At Blizzcon, some pros said that Hwaseung coaches boasted that they could make playoffs without using Jaedong for any aces in Round 1. I didn't think it was serious but LOL at what happened tonight hahahaha.

edit: GL JAEDONG OWNERS


wow
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
October 14 2009 06:29 GMT
#276
Why does it say that iam 1073th with 25 pts
or you are still updating things
La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
Fr33t
Profile Joined June 2008
United States1128 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-14 06:33:23
October 14 2009 06:32 GMT
#277
Haha @ JD owners. Top 70 and 4th in former top 10
"Wow you could literally transport Lomo's face to a girl and the result would be pretty deceptive."
lazz
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia3119 Posts
October 14 2009 06:33 GMT
#278
week 1 is always hilarious
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36392 Posts
October 14 2009 06:34 GMT
#279
Anyone wanna take a crack at optimal team?
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
integral
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3156 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-14 07:00:09
October 14 2009 06:36 GMT
#280
Cost - Player - Points
5 - (Z)Luxury - 8
2 - (T)HiyA - 7
3 - (Z)Modesty - 6
2 - (Z)HoeJJa - 5
1 - (T)FrOzean - 5
9 - (P)Bisu - 7

5 - KT Rolster - 10

27 - Total - 48

There are a few ways to get 48 points, this way is just the most cost-effective. Switching calm with luxury, or hoejja with hwasin, for example, would still be 48 points. Also, if you take violet over bisu, there are other ways to add back 2 points with the 6 remaining points. Interestingly, even if you lose two points to gain 4 costpoints to distribute by taking perfectman over violet, there's no way to make up the loss of points.

edit: see next page for a 30 point team that earns 49, I was wrong.

There are a ton of possible anti-teams, not going to list them all.
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