EPTIf Jaedong says he wants to stay with Oz, and any team who would pick him up has to pay a harsh penalty for doing so, this really isn't surprising news. It is terribly unfortunate, though. Competitive starcraft without it's best player right now would be a travesty. Kespa has to realize that, right?
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QibingZero
2611 Posts
If Jaedong says he wants to stay with Oz, and any team who would pick him up has to pay a harsh penalty for doing so, this really isn't surprising news. It is terribly unfortunate, though. Competitive starcraft without it's best player right now would be a travesty. Kespa has to realize that, right? | ||
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natturner
342 Posts
On August 26 2009 05:36 Jayson X wrote: Why is everyone hating on kespa alone when the situation is far more twisted. Even if kespa went the "do whatever you want"-route the issue remains the same. - Jaedong wants to stay with his team & friends and in a place where he feels save, money seems to be no issue as he is downplaying the rumours about him getting overworked (wich is probably easier to say for him after the rush of another starleague) - Parents support their son on his path, probably realised that a progamers career is frail, probably compared his salary to that of other progamers and then simply asked for more. Not alot more tough and still certainly less than other big names make. - Hwaseung OZ managers tought about it and responded with a big fat no and a "lets see what you can do on the "free" market. They know it's win-win for them anyway. A 2-times players salary for free or the best starcraft player there is for a "top 10 gamer"-salary. - Other teams don't bid because Jaedong expressed strong desire to stay. Tearing a young boy out of his surrounding might crush his desire to win, make him loose focus and love for the game and worst come to worst render him useless. - KESPA gets heat for another crappy system Conclusion. Jaedong is not Bisu. Jaedong probably is the type of guy that loves his friends and feels very safe with them. Money talk is something he can ignore since it doesnt matter if he gets more money, it's piling up anyway and he allready has everything he wants right now. no, the reason y Jaedong is in this situation is because no team can afford him due to the "you must pay his original team twice his salary" rule. and no cares about the fact that Jaedong wants to stay in Oz, if a team wants him they'd offer him money. | ||
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.risingdragoon
United States3021 Posts
of all the free agents, the most out of form is midas. everybody else has got at least some kind of chance of getting picked up. not midas. | ||
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General Nuke Em
United States680 Posts
On August 26 2009 06:33 natturner wrote: no, the reason y Jaedong is in this situation is because no team can afford him due to the "you must pay his original team twice his salary" rule. and no cares about the fact that Jaedong wants to stay in Oz, if a team wants him they'd offer him money. I'd lean more towards the theory all the teams are in collusion with each other and KESPA to not sign Jaedong to prevent other players from trying to use FA to get better deals. Note how nobody signed any of the other FA players either. | ||
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Pyrthas
United States3196 Posts
On August 26 2009 06:44 General Nuke Em wrote: I'd lean more towards the theory all the teams are in collusion with each other and KESPA to not sign Jaedong to prevent other players from trying to use FA to get better deals. Note how nobody signed any of the other FA players either. But maybe nobody signed other FA players because kespa's FA system is shit? It doesn't have to be some giant conspiracy. | ||
disciple
9070 Posts
On August 26 2009 05:36 Jayson X wrote: Conclusion. Jaedong is not Bisu. Jaedong probably is the type of guy that loves his friends and feels very safe with them. Money talk is something he can ignore since it doesnt matter if he gets more money, it's piling up anyway and he allready has everything he wants right now. what ?! he fucking cried like a baby when he made his farewell address to MBC, besides it wasnt like "Fuck MBC, I'm going to t1" because the main reason Bisu got traded was the end of his contract with MBC. SKT was just able to step up and offer him the money he deserves. I dont get all the stuff about Bisu being arrogant. Believe me, both Bisu and Jaedong are thinking they are the best at what they do, and both Bisu and Jaedong have huge egos. Most of the pros are making weird excuses when they are doing bad and I'm fucking sick of Flash's "I didn't had enough time to practice" stuff. Sure, Bisu is cocky on the mike (saying he was going to be the first guy to win the MSL 4 times in a row, was pretty bad), but he is the best protoss ever, and arguably the best looking starcraft player , so he has nothing to prove - he can say whatever shit he wants | ||
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BlackMagister
United States5834 Posts
On August 26 2009 06:49 Pyrthas wrote: But maybe nobody signed other FA players because kespa's FA system is shit? It doesn't have to be some giant conspiracy. go.go went to Wemade http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=100594 I have no idea why Wemade needed another Terran but they have the money to buy him so I guess they decided to >_> I'm willing to bet they had the money to buy JD expect JD didn't want to go hence the first page of this thread. Wemade along with Stars were probably one of these teams going with the information from Light. One team who was not mentioned in the article said that "even until right before the end of the deadline, (they) strongly considered bringing in Jaedong, but gave up in the end because Jaedong consistently expressed his strong desire to remain in Hwaseung." Another team mentioned that the main issue was Jaedong's salary. They said that it would be better to use the money for more areas instead of just on one player. | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10811 Posts
Oz bids fucking low 140 Kahn or whoever bids 200... Jaedong now can decide if he stays with the team he likes or the team that pays more... But instead we got: OZ bids a fucking low 140 and other teams would have to bid 280 + jaedongs new loan. To compare this to soccer.. Ronaldo is what worth now? 95 Millions? A new team would have to bid 190 Millions the get him + a loan that is probably higher 95 Millions to get him. This system makes players that aren't overpriced VERY expensive to buy, which is retarded. Jaedong for 140 is a bargain, Jaedong for 280 + 140+++ is extremly expensive. | ||
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wiesel
Germany727 Posts
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natturner
342 Posts
On August 26 2009 06:53 disciple wrote: I dont get all the stuff about Bisu being arrogant. well, Bisu also refers to himself as a prince (there was a video of the progamers making the Bacchus OSL intro where he calls himself a prince, but that could be a bad translation), but anyway, that is not the issue at hand. On August 26 2009 06:54 Velr wrote: The whole thing would be a totally diffrent story if this would have been just "normal" bidding system: Oz bids fucking low 140 Kahn or whoever bids 200... Jaedong now can decide if he stays with the team he likes or the team that pays more... But instead we got: OZ bids a fucking low 140 and other teams would have to bid 280 + jaedongs new loan. To compare this to soccer.. Ronaldo is what worth now? 95 Millions? A new team would have to bid 190 Millions the get him + a loan that is probably higher 95 Millions to get him. This system makes players that aren't overpriced VERY expensive to buy, which is retarded. Jaedong for 140 is a bargain, Jaedong for 280 + 140+++ is extremly expensive. yea, totally agree, i was thinking about the same thing except with Kobe Bryant, who has like a 140 million dollar contract. | ||
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Timberlake
China26 Posts
i m dying to know whether jaedong can play or not in the future...... | ||
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GinNtoniC
Sweden2945 Posts
When the two days are up, we'll know for sure. Till then, listed to paladin'romad or someone who's got ears and eyes in there. | ||
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billjung21
United States1 Post
If a team offered him lets say 2 million for one year and another team offered 3 milllion for 10 years, JD would have gone to the latter. I didn't kno that KeSPA never gave a shit about their players, but rather the companies selling players like slaves | ||
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WindCalibur
Canada938 Posts
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Vec
United States69 Posts
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nonduc
Russian Federation405 Posts
On August 26 2009 08:11 Vec wrote: I believe the rule was 2 years of their current salary not the purposed salary. Yes, it’s right. And current JD’s salary is only 60M won…  | ||
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FranzF1
Chile1710 Posts
Poor guy he is just a slave and its all that he ever did so for him it is the best thing (cus he doesnt know the world outside 12 hours of practice every fucking day) FUCK U OZ and KESPA | ||
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laLAlA[uC]
Canada963 Posts
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jyLee
United States350 Posts
In the end im pretty sure kespa wont allow JD to retire and will make sure he signs with some team and resolve this since he generates too much cash for them. | ||
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ShaperofDreams
Canada2492 Posts
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