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[News] Last Day of FA - and the conclusion

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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66366 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-26 06:55:25
August 25 2009 14:37 GMT
#1
Jaedong NOT picked up by any team
Source: - http://www.fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=98734&db=issue&cate=&page=1&field=&kwrd=

Reason: http://fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=98741&db=issue

Mainly regarding Jaedong's strong desire to remain in Hwaseung Oz, as well as issues with Jaedong's salary.

One team who was not mentioned in the article said that "even until right before the end of the deadline, (they) strongly considered bringing in Jaedong, but gave up in the end because Jaedong consistently expressed his strong desire to remain in Hwaseung."

Another team mentioned that the main issue was Jaedong's salary. They said that it would be better to use the money for more areas instead of just on one player.

Jaedong now has two options: 1) to retire or 2) to give up his contract, become a semi-pro and wait for another year until the new FA season starts.

Hwaseung says they will reveal the final details on the 26th.

Update
Jaedong to get more time to negotiate with Hwaseung from the 28th to the 31st.


- Final decision seems to be in the hands of Jaedong's parents
- Jaedong's dad said that if negotiations fail, Jaedong will probably retire and go to the US to study
- But Jaedong given more time (28th to 31st) to negotiate further with Hwaseung
- Hwaseung team shows no desire to let Jaedong retire

Source: - http://fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=98764&db=issue


What about Shine, Midas and Hyun?
Source: - http://www.fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=98743&db=issue&cate=&page=1&field=&kwrd=

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It is revealed that for them (all three whom nobody signed a contract with them), they have the final option of choosing to negotiate with their original teams (KT, SKT1 and MBC respectively) from the 28th to 31st for a re-contract, retaining their progamer status. Or else, they will be forced to become semi-pros and wait til the next season of FA.

All three teams revealed that they will negotiate further with the players, but no specific details can be mentioned at the moment.


Netizens rage over FA
Source: - http://www.fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=98689&db=issue&cate=&page=1&field=&kwrd=

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Text reads: (from top left to btm left, top right to btm right)
E-Sports, let's protect it with our own hands once again.
E-Sports for 10 years. Is the association (KeSPA) still just a kid?
If the players can't stand up for themselves, we will stand up for them.
JUST SAY NO - Just say what is the fact.
When a place that should exist doesn't exist - we want to watch true professional sports.


A rather renowned site called 'The Eyes watching over E-Sports' (http://eznoon.tistory.com) community decided to protest against the FA issue.

They revealed 5 points that were going against the core principles of Free Agency.

1) Players do not have the freedom of choice over their career.

2) It was more like a slavery contract.

3) Imposed an unfair negotiation field/table on the players.

4) The players' annual salary is confidential.

5) The intial stages are untimely, but there aren't any protective measures or punishments that could be dealt out appropriately. (Might be worded better)

So they are saying there will be 3 courses of action; 1) that they will seek legal methods to resolve this issue, 2) asking for a quick change in the FA deals and asking for a meeting with those involved with the FA deal or 3) they will announce all the problems with the FA and related issues to the entire country.


There are lots of legal terms and stuff here so I may have made a mistake here or there, but this is the rough gist of it.
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miseiler
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States1389 Posts
August 25 2009 14:40 GMT
#2
I really hope Jaedong doesn't sign with Oz, FA needs reform now and giving in is not the way to get it.
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OrderlyChaos
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1115 Posts
August 25 2009 14:42 GMT
#3
So does Jaedong not have the option to negotiate with Oz?
DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
August 25 2009 14:43 GMT
#4
I have to agree with the Netizens. The FA policy is just absurd and frankly stupid.
I wish the best of luck to Shine, Midas, Hyun and Jaedong. I hope they can negotiate some sort of compromise with their respective teams
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66366 Posts
August 25 2009 14:44 GMT
#5
On August 25 2009 23:42 OrderlyChaos wrote:
So does Jaedong not have the option to negotiate with Oz?

From what I read, it should be a must by tomorrow before they announce the final details.
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Riyomori
Profile Joined July 2009
Singapore316 Posts
August 25 2009 14:44 GMT
#6
omg. jaedong better not retire.
Kyuki
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden1867 Posts
August 25 2009 14:45 GMT
#7
All this shit is seriously pissing me off.

Go to fucking hell

JD and all other progamers deserves so much more than this crap...
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icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
August 25 2009 14:45 GMT
#8
jd at an early retirement? now thats fucked up
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Ota Solgryn
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Denmark2011 Posts
August 25 2009 14:46 GMT
#9
On August 25 2009 23:42 OrderlyChaos wrote:
So does Jaedong not have the option to negotiate with Oz?


My thoughts exactly. The two options given in the op makes me sad. If they are true, he is deemed not to play the next season? Or can the negotiate with Oz?
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Ftrunkz
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Australia2474 Posts
August 25 2009 14:47 GMT
#10
On August 25 2009 23:40 miseiler wrote:
I really hope Jaedong doesn't sign with Oz, FA needs reform now and giving in is not the way to get it.

Whilst it needs a reform, losing (what most consider to be) the best player in the world would be horrible for Starcraft.
Although, I can see hwasung giving into jaedong. I can only speculate, but I'd imagine they'd lose a HUGE amount of their fan base.
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sk`
Profile Joined November 2008
Japan442 Posts
August 25 2009 14:47 GMT
#11
Until they form a Player's Union and actually act by that union they will have no power to stand up to KESPA's insane FA regulations.

However, forming such a union, which would stand against the teams and KESPA would take more balls than the typical sub-18 year old playing in pro SC has. Only one with the clout to pull it off might be Boxer, but he's getting paid well to ride the bench at SK.
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Nightmarjoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3360 Posts
August 25 2009 14:49 GMT
#12
No one bid on Midas, Hyun, or Shine? That's bullshit!

And wtf how could they axe jaedong so hard, wtf do they think they're doing :O
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meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
August 25 2009 14:50 GMT
#13
FA sucks.
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29 fps
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States5725 Posts
August 25 2009 14:51 GMT
#14
what does semi-pro status mean as opposed to regular pro?
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SchOOl_VicTIm
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Greece2394 Posts
August 25 2009 14:52 GMT
#15
So, JD returning to Oz with the same contract is not an option anymore?
sixghost
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States2096 Posts
August 25 2009 14:52 GMT
#16
On August 25 2009 23:51 29 fps wrote:
what does semi-pro status mean as opposed to regular pro?

Semi-pro mean you have passed courage, but aren't signed by any pro team.
mG.sixghost @ iCCup || One ling, two ling, three ling, four... Camp four gas, then ultra-whore . -Saracen
Dice
Profile Joined April 2009
Korea (South)926 Posts
August 25 2009 14:53 GMT
#17
Fuck! This is depressing.. All I can hope for now is that Jaedong at least gets a decent deal with Hwaseung.. plz...
sixghost
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States2096 Posts
August 25 2009 14:53 GMT
#18
On August 25 2009 23:52 SchOOl_VicTIm wrote:
So, JD returning to Oz with the same contract is not an option anymore?

He still has a day or two to negociate with OZ.
mG.sixghost @ iCCup || One ling, two ling, three ling, four... Camp four gas, then ultra-whore . -Saracen
miseiler
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States1389 Posts
August 25 2009 14:54 GMT
#19
On August 25 2009 23:51 29 fps wrote:
what does semi-pro status mean as opposed to regular pro?


You can't play in any leagues except for WCG.
"Jinro soo manly wearing only a T-Shirt while the Koreans freeze in their jackets" -- Double_O
"He's from Sweden, man. We have to fight polar bears on our way to school." -- Yusername
Nylan
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States795 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-25 14:55:56
August 25 2009 14:54 GMT
#20
Idra would be able to do more in Korea than Jaedong.

Now we have to see how much Oz thinks they can get away with, how much hardball his dad wants to play, and how JD feels about the situation now.
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