• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 13:12
CEST 19:12
KST 02:12
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO4 & Finals Preview5[ASL21] Ro4 Preview: On Course12Code S Season 1 - RO8 Preview7[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Progenitors8Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun13
Community News
Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO8 Results2Weekly Cups (May 4-10): Clem, MaxPax, herO win1Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule !16Weekly Cups (April 27-May 4): Clem takes triple0RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event12
StarCraft 2
General
Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO4 & Finals Preview Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO8 Results Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO12 Results MaNa leaves Team Liquid
Tourneys
GSL Code S Season 1 (2026) $5,000 WardiTV Spring Championship 2026 Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule ! Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament KSL Week 89
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 526 Rubber and Glue Mutation # 525 Wheel of Misfortune Mutation # 524 Death and Taxes
Brood War
General
ASL21 General Discussion Lights Ro.8 Review (asl s21) 25 Years Since Brood War Patch 1.08 vespene.gg — BW replays in browser BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[ASL21] Semifinals B [BSL22] RO8 Bracket Stage + Another TieBreaker [ASL21] Ro8 Day 4 Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2
Strategy
Muta micro map competition Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Hydra ZvZ: An Introduction Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne ZeroSpace Megathread War of Dots, 2026 minimalst RTS Nintendo Switch Thread
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread YouTube Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread UK Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
streaming software Strange computer issues (software) [G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Why RTS gamers make better f…
gosubay
How EEG Data Can Predict Gam…
TrAiDoS
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1766 users

[News] Last Day of FA - and the conclusion - Page 4

Forum Index > BW General
413 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 19 20 21 Next All
Captain Peabody
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3128 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-25 16:31:39
August 25 2009 16:29 GMT
#61
Looking at the situation, this could be exactly what the e-sports scene needs; after seeing KESPA and the corporate teams treat the best Starcraft player in the world like garbage via the horribly unjust FA system, the community is finally up in arms, broadly and almost universally both in Korea and the rest of the world. Even former KESPA supporters have to acknowledge the injustice of a system that gives the best Starcraft player in the world absolutely no negotiating leverage and no control over his own fate, leaving him to merely hope that corporate sponsors decide to pay an artifically inflated price to acquire him, or be forced out of the sport.
In short, this "Jaedong fiasco" may be exactly what is needed to break KESPA's monopoly on e-sports once and for all. And...to quote a famous SKT1 player coach, the destruction of KESPA is necessary "for the development of e-sports."

Good riddance, I say...
Dies Irae venit. youtube.com/SnobbinsFilms
n.DieJokes
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3443 Posts
August 25 2009 16:32 GMT
#62
Can a semi-pro still compete in starleagues? I mean isn't JD seeded into all 3 major tournies for next year
MyLove + Your Love= Supa Love
HanN00b
Profile Joined October 2005
Germany1441 Posts
August 25 2009 16:40 GMT
#63
A semi pro cant. He would only play wcg.
Team name: Borussia Dortmunds Star(craft) Team (10) (Z)Jaedong (Captain) (7) (P)JangBi (2) (T)Bogus (2) (Z)sAviOr (2) (P)BackHo (0) (Z)YellOw (7) Lecaf Oz
Pufftrees
Profile Joined March 2009
2449 Posts
August 25 2009 16:40 GMT
#64
God this is really pissing me off. I swear if Jaedong is forced to retire I am going to RAGE my way to S. Korea and fuck some people up. The only possible positive will be community outrage and hopefully Kespa get's some major backlash.
Chance favors the prepared mind.
Clow
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Brazil880 Posts
August 25 2009 16:44 GMT
#65
This is very sad.

I wanted Jaedong to go to a better team, but it seems like he really loves his friends at Oz, and taking him away from them wouldn't be good. I hope he gets what he wants.

(–_–) CJ Entusman #33
RainmanMP
Profile Joined October 2007
United States1698 Posts
August 25 2009 16:51 GMT
#66
What happened to Go.Go? And if players don't resign can they enlist into the Air Force or something?
이영호 FIGHTING! Die Hard KT Rolster and Flash fan.
SBelmont
Profile Joined August 2008
United States122 Posts
August 25 2009 16:53 GMT
#67
On August 26 2009 01:51 RainmanMP wrote:
What happened to Go.Go? And if players don't resign can they enlist into the Air Force or something?

go.go went to WeMade FOX
HanN00b
Profile Joined October 2005
Germany1441 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-25 16:55:57
August 25 2009 16:55 GMT
#68
BTW. Could Jaedong actually go to the army? I mean he could forfill his duty and stay in the pro buisness would be perfect for him and ofc perfect for ace but I guess sinc he isnt 21...
Team name: Borussia Dortmunds Star(craft) Team (10) (Z)Jaedong (Captain) (7) (P)JangBi (2) (T)Bogus (2) (Z)sAviOr (2) (P)BackHo (0) (Z)YellOw (7) Lecaf Oz
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
August 25 2009 16:55 GMT
#69
Aside from all the KeSPA BS, I'm actually pretty surprised at how honorable the teams were in this process. Instead of bidding on Jaedong and forcing him to becoming contracted to them, they instead respected his wishes to stay on Oz (despite parents saying otherwise). Good day for e-sports in this regard.

However, FA still sucks.
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Musoeun
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States4324 Posts
August 25 2009 16:55 GMT
#70
On August 26 2009 01:40 HanN00b wrote:
A semi pro cant. He would only play wcg.


Possible meaning: How hard has OGN got to be leaning on OZ to get JD a contract? Imagine if JD wins the golden mouse and then can't even play in the next OSL. Or maybe this would cause OGN to break from KeSPA on this one... and that might be the floodgate break to end the nonsense.
Don't Shoot the Penguins. | Dance, 성은, dance! | Killer FanKlub | Action sucks. | Storm Terran hwaiting.
RainmanMP
Profile Joined October 2007
United States1698 Posts
August 25 2009 16:57 GMT
#71
On August 26 2009 01:55 Plexa wrote:
Aside from all the KeSPA BS, I'm actually pretty surprised at how honorable the teams were in this process. Instead of bidding on Jaedong and forcing him to becoming contracted to them, they instead respected his wishes to stay on Oz (despite parents saying otherwise). Good day for e-sports in this regard.

However, FA still sucks.


Amen to that.
이영호 FIGHTING! Die Hard KT Rolster and Flash fan.
ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
August 25 2009 16:57 GMT
#72
So can Jaedong be the team captain of a new team, while recruiting the other 3 players? I mean...it can't be THAT hard for them to find a sponsor?
Jaedong :3
piratebay
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States399 Posts
August 25 2009 16:58 GMT
#73
i HOPE jaedong doesnt sign with oz. the system will stay broke as hell, long into sc2 if the players dont take a stand NOW. and no player other than jaedong could send a stronger message at the moment.
KillForce
Profile Joined March 2009
Sweden36 Posts
August 25 2009 17:00 GMT
#74
If Oz does not sign him before tommorow, can they still sign him during the rest of the season, i.e. do they have the rights for him, and could they trade the rights to him, or is he completely locked out for a year, no matter what?
Nylan
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States795 Posts
August 25 2009 17:00 GMT
#75
On August 26 2009 01:55 Plexa wrote:
Aside from all the KeSPA BS, I'm actually pretty surprised at how honorable the teams were in this process. Instead of bidding on Jaedong and forcing him to becoming contracted to them, they instead respected his wishes to stay on Oz (despite parents saying otherwise). Good day for e-sports in this regard.

However, FA still sucks.


Assuming no strings were pulled, +1
BeSt/Pure/Canata/Calm - I believe in Doh Jae Wook
tirentu
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1257 Posts
August 25 2009 17:04 GMT
#76
We are on the eve of an e-sports revolution, brothers.

This is the final straw - if KeSPA's mindless regulations force Jaedong out of the game at his peak, then it will be the end of their monopoly over Korean e-sports. OGN will let him play in the next OSL regardless of what KeSPA says, teams will make sure that he's allowed to keep playing, and even GOM/Blizzard will support him.

Here's hoping his mom and dad don't fuck it up for him.
saikeraku
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada2933 Posts
August 25 2009 17:11 GMT
#77
Ah man this sucks. Hope JD won't be forced to retired >_< or turn semi-pro.
qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
August 25 2009 17:15 GMT
#78
On August 26 2009 01:55 Plexa wrote:
Aside from all the KeSPA BS, I'm actually pretty surprised at how honorable the teams were in this process. Instead of bidding on Jaedong and forcing him to becoming contracted to them, they instead respected his wishes to stay on Oz (despite parents saying otherwise). Good day for e-sports in this regard.

However, FA still sucks.

Honorable, my foot. They are looking out for themselves. If they felt that buying Jaedong was worth it to them, they would do it, but they don't want to a) spend a ton of money and b) set a precedent for spending money, especially for a player who may not be as motivated on their team.

I also don't know where you get the idea that when a player declares free agency, clearly soliciting bids, it is somehow "honorable" not to bid at all. At best, Jaedong can now take his original contract with Hwaseung, and at worst, they don't even have to offer that anymore. And it's looking just as likely that he won't stay with Oz anyway: he'll just retire or go semi-pro.
'As per the American Heart Association, the beat of the Bee Gees song "Stayin' Alive" provides an ideal rhythm in terms of beats per minute to use for hands-only CPR. One can also hum Queen's "Another One Bites The Dust".' —Wikipedia
nonduc
Profile Joined May 2009
Russian Federation405 Posts
August 25 2009 17:23 GMT
#79
On August 26 2009 02:15 qrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2009 01:55 Plexa wrote:
Aside from all the KeSPA BS, I'm actually pretty surprised at how honorable the teams were in this process. Instead of bidding on Jaedong and forcing him to becoming contracted to them, they instead respected his wishes to stay on Oz (despite parents saying otherwise). Good day for e-sports in this regard.

However, FA still sucks.

Honorable, my foot. They are looking out for themselves. If they felt that buying Jaedong was worth it to them, they would do it, but they don't want to a) spend a ton of money and b) set a precedent for spending money, especially for a player who may not be as motivated on their team.

I also don't know where you get the idea that when a player declares free agency, clearly soliciting bids, it is somehow "honorable" not to bid at all. At best, Jaedong can now take his original contract with Hwaseung, and at worst, they don't even have to offer that anymore. And it's looking just as likely that he won't stay with Oz anyway: he'll just retire or go semi-pro.

+ 1

It’s none of honor to take any bid for your FA proposal.
티라노사저그 렉스 화이팅~!
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
August 25 2009 17:23 GMT
#80
Whole thing was stupid as hell form the beggining, seriously only retards form KeSPA could come up with such rules.
Great way of fucking up Jadeong and SC overall.
La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 19 20 21 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Monday Night Weeklies
16:00
#52
TKL 737
RotterdaM597
IndyStarCraft 121
SteadfastSC114
BRAT_OK 99
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
TKL 737
RotterdaM 597
mouzHeroMarine 309
IndyStarCraft 121
SteadfastSC 114
BRAT_OK 99
UpATreeSC 66
ProTech34
MindelVK 19
MaxPax 7
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 5841
Britney 1619
Bisu 1084
BeSt 334
Hyuk 207
firebathero 145
Rush 111
Dewaltoss 94
Hyun 53
scan(afreeca) 37
[ Show more ]
Sharp 31
910 25
Aegong 23
Rock 19
GoRush 15
Terrorterran 10
Dota 2
qojqva2279
monkeys_forever355
Counter-Strike
pashabiceps1324
Other Games
Grubby1960
Liquid`RaSZi1417
B2W.Neo1126
ceh9448
Hui .189
KnowMe158
Trikslyr58
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL1806
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 8
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 93
• Kozan
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• sooper7s
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 32
• Michael_bg 11
• FirePhoenix4
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV504
Other Games
• imaqtpie1079
• Shiphtur294
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
6h 49m
The PondCast
16h 49m
Kung Fu Cup
17h 49m
WardiTV Qualifier
20h 49m
GSL
1d 16h
Cure vs sOs
SHIN vs ByuN
Replay Cast
2 days
GSL
2 days
Classic vs Solar
GuMiho vs Zoun
WardiTV Spring Champion…
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Spring Champion…
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Classic vs SHIN
Rogue vs Bunny
BSL
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Flash vs Soma
RSL Revival
5 days
BSL
6 days
Patches Events
6 days
Universe Titan Cup
6 days
Rogue vs Percival
Wardi Open
6 days
Monday Night Weeklies
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S2: W7
2026 GSL S1
Nations Cup 2026

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Acropolis #4
KK 2v2 League Season 1
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
YSL S3
SCTL 2026 Spring
RSL Revival: Season 5
Heroes Pulsing #1
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W8
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
WardiTV Spring 2026
2026 GSL S2
Bounty Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.