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[News] Last Day of FA - and the conclusion - Page 4

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Captain Peabody
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3135 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-25 16:31:39
August 25 2009 16:29 GMT
#61
Looking at the situation, this could be exactly what the e-sports scene needs; after seeing KESPA and the corporate teams treat the best Starcraft player in the world like garbage via the horribly unjust FA system, the community is finally up in arms, broadly and almost universally both in Korea and the rest of the world. Even former KESPA supporters have to acknowledge the injustice of a system that gives the best Starcraft player in the world absolutely no negotiating leverage and no control over his own fate, leaving him to merely hope that corporate sponsors decide to pay an artifically inflated price to acquire him, or be forced out of the sport.
In short, this "Jaedong fiasco" may be exactly what is needed to break KESPA's monopoly on e-sports once and for all. And...to quote a famous SKT1 player coach, the destruction of KESPA is necessary "for the development of e-sports."

Good riddance, I say...
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n.DieJokes
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3443 Posts
August 25 2009 16:32 GMT
#62
Can a semi-pro still compete in starleagues? I mean isn't JD seeded into all 3 major tournies for next year
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HanN00b
Profile Joined October 2005
Germany1441 Posts
August 25 2009 16:40 GMT
#63
A semi pro cant. He would only play wcg.
Team name: Borussia Dortmunds Star(craft) Team (10) (Z)Jaedong (Captain) (7) (P)JangBi (2) (T)Bogus (2) (Z)sAviOr (2) (P)BackHo (0) (Z)YellOw (7) Lecaf Oz
Pufftrees
Profile Joined March 2009
2449 Posts
August 25 2009 16:40 GMT
#64
God this is really pissing me off. I swear if Jaedong is forced to retire I am going to RAGE my way to S. Korea and fuck some people up. The only possible positive will be community outrage and hopefully Kespa get's some major backlash.
Chance favors the prepared mind.
Clow
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Brazil880 Posts
August 25 2009 16:44 GMT
#65
This is very sad.

I wanted Jaedong to go to a better team, but it seems like he really loves his friends at Oz, and taking him away from them wouldn't be good. I hope he gets what he wants.

(–_–) CJ Entusman #33
RainmanMP
Profile Joined October 2007
United States1698 Posts
August 25 2009 16:51 GMT
#66
What happened to Go.Go? And if players don't resign can they enlist into the Air Force or something?
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SBelmont
Profile Joined August 2008
United States122 Posts
August 25 2009 16:53 GMT
#67
On August 26 2009 01:51 RainmanMP wrote:
What happened to Go.Go? And if players don't resign can they enlist into the Air Force or something?

go.go went to WeMade FOX
HanN00b
Profile Joined October 2005
Germany1441 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-25 16:55:57
August 25 2009 16:55 GMT
#68
BTW. Could Jaedong actually go to the army? I mean he could forfill his duty and stay in the pro buisness would be perfect for him and ofc perfect for ace but I guess sinc he isnt 21...
Team name: Borussia Dortmunds Star(craft) Team (10) (Z)Jaedong (Captain) (7) (P)JangBi (2) (T)Bogus (2) (Z)sAviOr (2) (P)BackHo (0) (Z)YellOw (7) Lecaf Oz
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
August 25 2009 16:55 GMT
#69
Aside from all the KeSPA BS, I'm actually pretty surprised at how honorable the teams were in this process. Instead of bidding on Jaedong and forcing him to becoming contracted to them, they instead respected his wishes to stay on Oz (despite parents saying otherwise). Good day for e-sports in this regard.

However, FA still sucks.
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Musoeun
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States4324 Posts
August 25 2009 16:55 GMT
#70
On August 26 2009 01:40 HanN00b wrote:
A semi pro cant. He would only play wcg.


Possible meaning: How hard has OGN got to be leaning on OZ to get JD a contract? Imagine if JD wins the golden mouse and then can't even play in the next OSL. Or maybe this would cause OGN to break from KeSPA on this one... and that might be the floodgate break to end the nonsense.
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RainmanMP
Profile Joined October 2007
United States1698 Posts
August 25 2009 16:57 GMT
#71
On August 26 2009 01:55 Plexa wrote:
Aside from all the KeSPA BS, I'm actually pretty surprised at how honorable the teams were in this process. Instead of bidding on Jaedong and forcing him to becoming contracted to them, they instead respected his wishes to stay on Oz (despite parents saying otherwise). Good day for e-sports in this regard.

However, FA still sucks.


Amen to that.
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ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
August 25 2009 16:57 GMT
#72
So can Jaedong be the team captain of a new team, while recruiting the other 3 players? I mean...it can't be THAT hard for them to find a sponsor?
Jaedong :3
piratebay
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States399 Posts
August 25 2009 16:58 GMT
#73
i HOPE jaedong doesnt sign with oz. the system will stay broke as hell, long into sc2 if the players dont take a stand NOW. and no player other than jaedong could send a stronger message at the moment.
KillForce
Profile Joined March 2009
Sweden36 Posts
August 25 2009 17:00 GMT
#74
If Oz does not sign him before tommorow, can they still sign him during the rest of the season, i.e. do they have the rights for him, and could they trade the rights to him, or is he completely locked out for a year, no matter what?
Nylan
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States795 Posts
August 25 2009 17:00 GMT
#75
On August 26 2009 01:55 Plexa wrote:
Aside from all the KeSPA BS, I'm actually pretty surprised at how honorable the teams were in this process. Instead of bidding on Jaedong and forcing him to becoming contracted to them, they instead respected his wishes to stay on Oz (despite parents saying otherwise). Good day for e-sports in this regard.

However, FA still sucks.


Assuming no strings were pulled, +1
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tirentu
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1257 Posts
August 25 2009 17:04 GMT
#76
We are on the eve of an e-sports revolution, brothers.

This is the final straw - if KeSPA's mindless regulations force Jaedong out of the game at his peak, then it will be the end of their monopoly over Korean e-sports. OGN will let him play in the next OSL regardless of what KeSPA says, teams will make sure that he's allowed to keep playing, and even GOM/Blizzard will support him.

Here's hoping his mom and dad don't fuck it up for him.
saikeraku
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada2933 Posts
August 25 2009 17:11 GMT
#77
Ah man this sucks. Hope JD won't be forced to retired >_< or turn semi-pro.
qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
August 25 2009 17:15 GMT
#78
On August 26 2009 01:55 Plexa wrote:
Aside from all the KeSPA BS, I'm actually pretty surprised at how honorable the teams were in this process. Instead of bidding on Jaedong and forcing him to becoming contracted to them, they instead respected his wishes to stay on Oz (despite parents saying otherwise). Good day for e-sports in this regard.

However, FA still sucks.

Honorable, my foot. They are looking out for themselves. If they felt that buying Jaedong was worth it to them, they would do it, but they don't want to a) spend a ton of money and b) set a precedent for spending money, especially for a player who may not be as motivated on their team.

I also don't know where you get the idea that when a player declares free agency, clearly soliciting bids, it is somehow "honorable" not to bid at all. At best, Jaedong can now take his original contract with Hwaseung, and at worst, they don't even have to offer that anymore. And it's looking just as likely that he won't stay with Oz anyway: he'll just retire or go semi-pro.
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nonduc
Profile Joined May 2009
Russian Federation405 Posts
August 25 2009 17:23 GMT
#79
On August 26 2009 02:15 qrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2009 01:55 Plexa wrote:
Aside from all the KeSPA BS, I'm actually pretty surprised at how honorable the teams were in this process. Instead of bidding on Jaedong and forcing him to becoming contracted to them, they instead respected his wishes to stay on Oz (despite parents saying otherwise). Good day for e-sports in this regard.

However, FA still sucks.

Honorable, my foot. They are looking out for themselves. If they felt that buying Jaedong was worth it to them, they would do it, but they don't want to a) spend a ton of money and b) set a precedent for spending money, especially for a player who may not be as motivated on their team.

I also don't know where you get the idea that when a player declares free agency, clearly soliciting bids, it is somehow "honorable" not to bid at all. At best, Jaedong can now take his original contract with Hwaseung, and at worst, they don't even have to offer that anymore. And it's looking just as likely that he won't stay with Oz anyway: he'll just retire or go semi-pro.

+ 1

It’s none of honor to take any bid for your FA proposal.
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Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
August 25 2009 17:23 GMT
#80
Whole thing was stupid as hell form the beggining, seriously only retards form KeSPA could come up with such rules.
Great way of fucking up Jadeong and SC overall.
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