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[News] Last Day of FA - and the conclusion - Page 7

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StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13921 Posts
August 25 2009 20:14 GMT
#121
By not bidding they have eliminated jaedong from competition, thus a cheaper solution than bidding him.

BULLSHIT
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
August 25 2009 20:16 GMT
#122
Hwaseung just gets JD. Since their parents want 180mil, I think Hwaseung will pay that. I doubt he'd retire.
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Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
August 25 2009 20:17 GMT
#123
On August 26 2009 05:11 iamho wrote:
reading angry jaedong fans' rage is entertaining

So is reading smugness.
Jaedong
Mykill
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada3402 Posts
August 25 2009 20:18 GMT
#124
JD retiring would be fucked up...
[~~The Impossible Leads To Invention~~] CJ Entusman #52 The problem with internet quotations is that they are hard to verify -Abraham Lincoln c.1863
ryuu_
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1266 Posts
August 25 2009 20:20 GMT
#125
JD should get his hard earned salary already, Good Lord Hwaseung wtf are you thinking...the Legend Killer cannot retire this early..
♣ Jaedong. Stork. Bisu. Calm. NaDa. SC2: Sen, MKP, DRG, MMA, Grubby, NonY, Ret, Jinro, TLO, Sheth, HayprO, Zenio,Taeja,Snute, Sea, Rain, MC,Squirtle,Stephano,Parting ,Life, and HEROOOOO <3
iamho
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3347 Posts
August 25 2009 20:25 GMT
#126
what happened to all the free agents other than the 4 mentioned here? did they all stay with their teams?
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13921 Posts
August 25 2009 20:26 GMT
#127
On August 26 2009 05:25 iamho wrote:
what happened to all the free agents other than the 4 mentioned here? did they all stay with their teams?


same pickle as jaedong
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
August 25 2009 20:27 GMT
#128
Not gonna lie, Free Agency is pretty lame. If Jaedong retires, I might just quit watching Starcraft.
God Bless
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
August 25 2009 20:28 GMT
#129
go.go gogoes to WeMade fox. Because they needed another terran.
Jaedong
Borknagarush
Profile Joined February 2009
176 Posts
August 25 2009 20:35 GMT
#130
And what about Piratezerg?
Jayson X
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Switzerland2431 Posts
August 25 2009 20:36 GMT
#131
Why is everyone hating on kespa alone when the situation is far more twisted. Even if kespa went the "do whatever you want"-route the issue remains the same.

- Jaedong wants to stay with his team & friends and in a place where he feels save, money seems to be no issue as he is downplaying the rumours about him getting overworked (wich is probably easier to say for him after the rush of another starleague)

- Parents support their son on his path, probably realised that a progamers career is frail, probably compared his salary to that of other progamers and then simply asked for more. Not alot more tough and still certainly less than other big names make.

- Hwaseung OZ managers tought about it and responded with a big fat no and a "lets see what you can do on the "free" market. They know it's win-win for them anyway. A 2-times players salary for free or the best starcraft player there is for a "top 10 gamer"-salary.

- Other teams don't bid because Jaedong expressed strong desire to stay. Tearing a young boy out of his surrounding might crush his desire to win, make him loose focus and love for the game and worst come to worst render him useless.

- KESPA gets heat for another crappy system


Conclusion. Jaedong is not Bisu. Jaedong probably is the type of guy that loves his friends and feels very safe with them. Money talk is something he can ignore since it doesnt matter if he gets more money, it's piling up anyway and he allready has everything he wants right now.
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
August 25 2009 20:41 GMT
#132
On August 26 2009 05:36 Jayson X wrote:
Conclusion. Jaedong is not Bisu. Jaedong probably is the type of guy that loves his friends and feels very safe with them. Money talk is something he can ignore since it doesnt matter if he gets more money, it's piling up anyway and he allready has everything he wants right now.


What's with this ragging on Bisu? He only switched over to SK Telecom because MBC decided they wanted a lil cash instead of the best protoss player in the game.
God Bless
noddyz
Profile Joined October 2008
United Kingdom462 Posts
August 25 2009 20:44 GMT
#133
On August 26 2009 05:28 Avidkeystamper wrote:
go.go gogoes to WeMade fox. Because they needed another terran.


Nada barely plays anymore. That leaves what, Mind and Baby?

Yeah i'd say they do.
?
Sharp-eYe
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada642 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-25 20:47:43
August 25 2009 20:45 GMT
#134
On August 26 2009 05:36 Jayson X wrote:
Why is everyone hating on kespa alone when the situation is far more twisted. Even if kespa went the "do whatever you want"-route the issue remains the same.

- Jaedong wants to stay with his team & friends and in a place where he feels save, money seems to be no issue as he is downplaying the rumours about him getting overworked (wich is probably easier to say for him after the rush of another starleague)

- Parents support their son on his path, probably realised that a progamers career is frail, probably compared his salary to that of other progamers and then simply asked for more. Not alot more tough and still certainly less than other big names make.

- Hwaseung OZ managers tought about it and responded with a big fat no and a "lets see what you can do on the "free" market. They know it's win-win for them anyway. A 2-times players salary for free or the best starcraft player there is for a "top 10 gamer"-salary.

- Other teams don't bid because Jaedong expressed strong desire to stay. Tearing a young boy out of his surrounding might crush his desire to win, make him loose focus and love for the game and worst come to worst render him useless.

- KESPA gets heat for another crappy system


Conclusion. Jaedong is not Bisu. Jaedong probably is the type of guy that loves his friends and feels very safe with them. Money talk is something he can ignore since it doesnt matter if he gets more money, it's piling up anyway and he allready has everything he wants right now.

I would have to disagree. In my opinion, KeSPA is the primary source of this bullshit.

The only reason the Hwaseung's team manager (or who ever deals with salaries) is being a douche and putting up only 140m won is because that is exactly enough to scare away the other teams, then Jaedong can only negotiate with OZ.

If KeSPA went the "do what you want" route:

- Jaedong's parents can talk as long as they wish with the OZ salary manager. Also, because there is no bs rules, OZ will be more obliged to keep Jaedong, as it is going to be way cheaper to buy Jaedong from OZ. Did you know that will cost teams atleast 500m won to buy Jaedong? That is his salary + the fees to his original team.

- After the negotiations are done, everyone is happy.

This is all KeSPA's fault, and as a result, everyone else is getting screwed over.
Are you truly so blinded by your vaunted religion, that you can't see the fall ahead of you? - Zeratul III AKA WikidSik ingame (anygame)
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
August 25 2009 20:53 GMT
#135
KeSPA made the rules that another teams have to play twice the current salary plus some other stuff. Yes, it's KeSPA's fault that Jaedong is so expensive to acquire.
Jaedong
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51647 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-25 21:07:04
August 25 2009 20:56 GMT
#136
what's the fucking point of free agency when only ONE person moves to another team.
might as well get rid of the system and go back to the old 'i give you more money, come over' style of 'free agency'

if this continues next year whats the point of reporting on it when no one is going to move anywhere
Commentator
Neos
Profile Joined June 2009
United States400 Posts
August 25 2009 21:05 GMT
#137
No one even got signed to a new team?
This event was just a big pain in the ass
Bosu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3247 Posts
August 25 2009 21:14 GMT
#138
FA was such a let down I was super excited to see some shake ups.
#1 Kwanro Fan
Zinbiel
Profile Joined October 2008
Sweden878 Posts
August 25 2009 21:20 GMT
#139
On August 26 2009 05:20 ryuu_ wrote:
JD should get his hard earned salary already, Good Lord Hwaseung wtf are you thinking...the Legend Killer cannot retire this early..

Well, you must realize that as soon as the legend-killer got his golden mouse and became a legend, he must kill himself :S
Backho fan since 080416. Favourite terran: Mind. Favourite Zerg: Jaedong.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33653 Posts
August 25 2009 21:20 GMT
#140
On August 26 2009 05:56 GTR wrote:
what's the fucking point of free agency when only ONE person moves to another team.
might as well get rid of the system and go back to the old 'i give you more money, come over' style of 'free agency'

if this continues next year whats the point of reporting on it when no one is going to move anywhere


you can still do that, I think FA was supposed to be cheaper than that in theory (and free for under 50,000,000 won earners).
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