Why is everyone hating on kespa alone when the situation is far more twisted. Even if kespa went the "do whatever you want"-route the issue remains the same.

- Jaedong wants to stay with his team & friends and in a place where he feels save, money seems to be no issue as he is downplaying the rumours about him getting overworked (wich is probably easier to say for him after the rush of another starleague)

- Parents support their son on his path, probably realised that a progamers career is frail, probably compared his salary to that of other progamers and then simply asked for more. Not alot more tough and still certainly less than other big names make.

- Hwaseung OZ managers tought about it and responded with a big fat no and a "lets see what you can do on the "free" market. They know it's win-win for them anyway. A 2-times players salary for free or the best starcraft player there is for a "top 10 gamer"-salary.

- Other teams don't bid because Jaedong expressed strong desire to stay. Tearing a young boy out of his surrounding might crush his desire to win, make him loose focus and love for the game and worst come to worst render him useless.

- KESPA gets heat for another crappy system

Conclusion. Jaedong is not Bisu. Jaedong probably is the type of guy that loves his friends and feels very safe with them. Money talk is something he can ignore since it doesnt matter if he gets more money, it's piling up anyway and he allready has everything he wants right now.

Roffles

Pitcairn19291 Posts

August 25 2009 20:41 GMT

#132

On August 26 2009 05:36 Jayson X wrote:
Conclusion. Jaedong is not Bisu. Jaedong probably is the type of guy that loves his friends and feels very safe with them. Money talk is something he can ignore since it doesnt matter if he gets more money, it's piling up anyway and he allready has everything he wants right now.

What's with this ragging on Bisu? He only switched over to SK Telecom because MBC decided they wanted a lil cash instead of the best protoss player in the game.

noddyz

United Kingdom462 Posts

August 25 2009 20:44 GMT

#133

On August 26 2009 05:28 Avidkeystamper wrote:
go.go gogoes to WeMade fox. Because they needed another terran.

Nada barely plays anymore. That leaves what, Mind and Baby?

Yeah i'd say they do.

Sharp-eYe

Canada642 Posts

August 25 2009 20:45 GMT

#134

On August 26 2009 05:36 Jayson X wrote:
Why is everyone hating on kespa alone when the situation is far more twisted. Even if kespa went the "do whatever you want"-route the issue remains the same.

- Jaedong wants to stay with his team & friends and in a place where he feels save, money seems to be no issue as he is downplaying the rumours about him getting overworked (wich is probably easier to say for him after the rush of another starleague)

- Parents support their son on his path, probably realised that a progamers career is frail, probably compared his salary to that of other progamers and then simply asked for more. Not alot more tough and still certainly less than other big names make.

- Hwaseung OZ managers tought about it and responded with a big fat no and a "lets see what you can do on the "free" market. They know it's win-win for them anyway. A 2-times players salary for free or the best starcraft player there is for a "top 10 gamer"-salary.

- Other teams don't bid because Jaedong expressed strong desire to stay. Tearing a young boy out of his surrounding might crush his desire to win, make him loose focus and love for the game and worst come to worst render him useless.

- KESPA gets heat for another crappy system

Conclusion. Jaedong is not Bisu. Jaedong probably is the type of guy that loves his friends and feels very safe with them. Money talk is something he can ignore since it doesnt matter if he gets more money, it's piling up anyway and he allready has everything he wants right now.

I would have to disagree. In my opinion, KeSPA is the primary source of this bullshit.

The only reason the Hwaseung's team manager (or who ever deals with salaries) is being a douche and putting up only 140m won is because that is exactly enough to scare away the other teams, then Jaedong can only negotiate with OZ.

If KeSPA went the "do what you want" route:

- Jaedong's parents can talk as long as they wish with the OZ salary manager. Also, because there is no bs rules, OZ will be more obliged to keep Jaedong, as it is going to be way cheaper to buy Jaedong from OZ. Did you know that will cost teams atleast 500m won to buy Jaedong? That is his salary + the fees to his original team.

- After the negotiations are done, everyone is happy.

This is all KeSPA's fault, and as a result, everyone else is getting screwed over.

Avidkeystamper

United States8552 Posts

August 25 2009 20:53 GMT

#135

KeSPA made the rules that another teams have to play twice the current salary plus some other stuff. Yes, it's KeSPA's fault that Jaedong is so expensive to acquire.

GTR

51444 Posts

August 25 2009 20:56 GMT

#136

what's the fucking point of free agency when only ONE person moves to another team.
might as well get rid of the system and go back to the old 'i give you more money, come over' style of 'free agency'

if this continues next year whats the point of reporting on it when no one is going to move anywhere

Neos

United States400 Posts

August 25 2009 21:05 GMT

#137

No one even got signed to a new team?
This event was just a big pain in the ass

Bosu

United States3247 Posts

August 25 2009 21:14 GMT

#138

FA was such a let down

I was super excited to see some shake ups.

Zinbiel

Sweden878 Posts

August 25 2009 21:20 GMT

#139

On August 26 2009 05:20 ryuu_ wrote:
JD should get his hard earned salary already, Good Lord Hwaseung wtf are you thinking...the Legend Killer cannot retire this early..

Well, you must realize that as soon as the legend-killer got his golden mouse and became a legend, he must kill himself :S

Waxangel

United States33364 Posts

August 25 2009 21:20 GMT

#140

On August 26 2009 05:56 GTR wrote:
what's the fucking point of free agency when only ONE person moves to another team.
might as well get rid of the system and go back to the old 'i give you more money, come over' style of 'free agency'

if this continues next year whats the point of reporting on it when no one is going to move anywhere

you can still do that, I think FA was supposed to be cheaper than that in theory (and free for under 50,000,000 won earners).