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Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
August 27 2009 06:44 GMT
#301
On August 27 2009 09:27 natturner wrote:
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On August 27 2009 08:48 Warrior Madness wrote:
This is a travesty. Unbelievable. Even if JD does resign with Oz he won't be able to play in the starleagues for a while. Where are the protests? Starcraft is the second most popular sport in korea and not a single fan is picketing?


y wouldn't he be able to play in starleagues for a while? i thought as long as he re-signs with OZ before August 31st, everything returns back to normal.


I thought I read it earlier in the thread, which infuriates me if true, or if I understood what was said correctly.
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n
Profile Joined May 2009
United States48 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-27 06:55:04
August 27 2009 06:54 GMT
#302
Some of you guys don't understand, Oz and KeSPA are SCREWING Jaedong over because he's young and immature. Oz is exploiting the horribly unfair rules of FA to get Jaedong at a premium. In addition to all monetary issues, it's also a matter of principle. JD's parents totally have the right to protest the laughable, insulting amount that Oz plans to pay Jaedong. If this is indicative of how KeSPA and other pro-teams will act in the future, Jaedong should best get out now if he doesn't feel like dealing with the bullshit.
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3019 Posts
August 27 2009 07:21 GMT
#303
Strength of unions goes:

MLB > NBA > NFL

NFL definitely has the worst. However, the NBA has the most reasonable rookie salary scale, and NFL rookies can definitely get paid a ton more than NBA rookies. But, once you get past that first contract, NBA money is guaranteed, while in the NFL all that really counts is the guaranteed portion of your contract, not the actual numbers. It's true that the NBA has max salaries while the NFL doesn't, but both leagues have a pretty hard salary cap (as in you really suffer financially if you go over it) and so the super elite NBA players end up getting paid more than the super elite NFL players.

MLB players have it the best - arbitrary length and size guaranteed contracts.
HanN00b
Profile Joined October 2005
Germany1441 Posts
August 27 2009 09:38 GMT
#304
BTW: is he retired now? any news?
Team name: Borussia Dortmunds Star(craft) Team (10) (Z)Jaedong (Captain) (7) (P)JangBi (2) (T)Bogus (2) (Z)sAviOr (2) (P)BackHo (0) (Z)YellOw (7) Lecaf Oz
mrdx
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Vietnam1555 Posts
August 27 2009 10:38 GMT
#305
On August 27 2009 15:54 n wrote:
Some of you guys don't understand, Oz and KeSPA are SCREWING Jaedong over because he's young and immature. Oz is exploiting the horribly unfair rules of FA to get Jaedong at a premium. In addition to all monetary issues, it's also a matter of principle. JD's parents totally have the right to protest the laughable, insulting amount that Oz plans to pay Jaedong. If this is indicative of how KeSPA and other pro-teams will act in the future, Jaedong should best get out now if he doesn't feel like dealing with the bullshit.

Exactly.
Hoping for Jaedong to blindly accept that offer just so that you can keep seeing him play is kinda selfish tbh. Time for Jaedong and other pro to realise who's really creating wealth for KeSPA and the teams.
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Adeeler
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom764 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-27 17:19:19
August 27 2009 17:13 GMT
#306
I think Jaedong wants to stay with Oz but he knows he could be getting double or triple pay somewhere else where he wouldn't have to have as grueling a schedule and pressure.

He knows he's being taken advantage off and Oz will try to pay him less/least possible as they can use the threat of not signing him at all forcing him into semi pro status with no team. JD is the #1 player and saddly the worst paid in proportion to his skill/performance.

I wish SKT1 had just bought him regardless of the cost and thus next year when Kespa should hopefully not exist anymore and GOM takes over everything SC2 related we can be at ease that players get a fair deal.

I think JD should take a year of in the army and come back for SC2 and get a contract of his chosing then.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 27 2009 17:37 GMT
#307
On August 27 2009 14:53 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote:
As long as the industry is around, coaching. He can go as long as he wants on coaching, retire comfortably and let that be that.

There's no guarantee that coaching is any kind of satisfying lifestyle, and there's certainly no guarantee that Jaedong would be happy with that prospect, particularly if its for a game that isn't Starcraft.
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RaGe
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Belgium9950 Posts
August 27 2009 17:42 GMT
#308
On August 28 2009 02:37 TheYango wrote:
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On August 27 2009 14:53 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote:
As long as the industry is around, coaching. He can go as long as he wants on coaching, retire comfortably and let that be that.

There's no guarantee that coaching is any kind of satisfying lifestyle, and there's certainly no guarantee that Jaedong would be happy with that prospect, particularly if its for a game that isn't Starcraft.

Yeah I think coaching would probably be JD's most frustrating option.

He'd be able to rape all the kids he coaches..
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Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
August 27 2009 17:44 GMT
#309
Well I'll pay him 200K if he coach me playing SC.
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Live2Win *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6657 Posts
August 27 2009 17:58 GMT
#310
Some updates:
Go.go to WeMade Terminated
Basically (T)go.go wanted to go to WeMade and WeMade wanted him in but (T)go.go's parents wanted a contract similar to (T)Mind or (T)Light. That and the competition for the terran ace against (T)Mind and (T)NaDa as well as the complication of moving to a new team resulted in the contract not going through.

So (T)go.go now has until the 31st to work something out with hite or he will become a semi-pro and wait for the next FA.


Hery and ZergBong to become KT coaches
Yep. (T)Hery, who was traded to STX for awhile will now go back to his old team and become their coach, along with (Z)ZergBong who's been playing the coaching roll for awhile now anyways.
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natturner
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
342 Posts
August 27 2009 18:12 GMT
#311
On August 28 2009 02:58 Live2Win wrote:

Hery and ZergBong to become KT coaches
Yep. (T)Hery, who was traded to STX for awhile will now go back to his old team and become their coach, along with (Z)ZergBong who's been playing the coaching roll for awhile now anyways.


LOL, Zergbong?!?!?! as coach?!?!?! Zergbong is TERRIBLE, it was already bad enough when he was team captain, but now coach? KT's zergs are gonna suck, Luxury should just commit seppuku
This nigga done stole my bike.
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
August 27 2009 18:16 GMT
#312
On August 28 2009 03:12 natturner wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2009 02:58 Live2Win wrote:

Hery and ZergBong to become KT coaches
Yep. (T)Hery, who was traded to STX for awhile will now go back to his old team and become their coach, along with (Z)ZergBong who's been playing the coaching roll for awhile now anyways.


LOL, Zergbong?!?!?! as coach?!?!?! Zergbong is TERRIBLE, it was already bad enough when he was team captain, but now coach? KT's zergs are gonna suck, Luxury should just commit seppuku

Just because you aren't a great player in starcraft (mechanically or what have you) doesn't mean you aren't able to understand how to be good at a game. I'm sure his knowledge of the game isn't "terrible".
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Live2Win *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6657 Posts
August 27 2009 18:19 GMT
#313
Exactly. I've been really enjoying this year's WCG Korea because of Kingdom's commentary. The guy hasn't done much the last years of his progaming career (although his wrist injury may have contributed to that), but the amount of insight he gives on the game in all matchups are incredible. Same goes to other progamers-turned commentators, like Ra and TheMarine.
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Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary26004 Posts
August 27 2009 18:19 GMT
#314
Seriously. Someone's skill at the game says nothing of their understanding or ability to coach at it.
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nonduc
Profile Joined May 2009
Russian Federation405 Posts
August 27 2009 18:20 GMT
#315
FA results: KeSPA 5 — 0 progamers

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Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary26004 Posts
August 27 2009 18:21 GMT
#316
On August 28 2009 03:19 Live2Win wrote:
Exactly. I've been really enjoying this year's WCG Korea because of Kingdom's commentary. The guy hasn't done much the last years of his progaming career (although his wrist injury may have contributed to that), but the amount of insight he gives on the game in all matchups are incredible. Same goes to other progamers-turned commentators, like Ra and TheMarine.

Can you give examples? I've always heard Koreans fawning over the commentators' depth. Whenever I watch with a Korean I ask what they're saying and it's never been anything in-depth. Usually they're just making funny jokes. I always expect to hear some great insight and it's around 0/100 now. I've never heard it.
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HanN00b
Profile Joined October 2005
Germany1441 Posts
August 27 2009 19:56 GMT
#317
On August 28 2009 02:58 Live2Win wrote:
Some updates:
Go.go to WeMade Terminated
Basically (T)go.go wanted to go to WeMade and WeMade wanted him in but (T)go.go's parents wanted a contract similar to (T)Mind or (T)Light. That and the competition for the terran ace against (T)Mind and (T)NaDa as well as the complication of moving to a new team resulted in the contract not going through.

So (T)go.go now has until the 31st to work something out with hite or he will become a semi-pro and wait for the next FA.


Hery and ZergBong to become KT coaches
Yep. (T)Hery, who was traded to STX for awhile will now go back to his old team and become their coach, along with (Z)ZergBong who's been playing the coaching roll for awhile now anyways.


I am really interested whats up with Jaedong
Team name: Borussia Dortmunds Star(craft) Team (10) (Z)Jaedong (Captain) (7) (P)JangBi (2) (T)Bogus (2) (Z)sAviOr (2) (P)BackHo (0) (Z)YellOw (7) Lecaf Oz
Bifur
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Russian Federation1208 Posts
August 27 2009 20:17 GMT
#318
Poor Midas
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
August 27 2009 20:23 GMT
#319
So free agent was basically a total failure?
r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
August 27 2009 20:34 GMT
#320
On August 28 2009 03:12 natturner wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2009 02:58 Live2Win wrote:

Hery and ZergBong to become KT coaches
Yep. (T)Hery, who was traded to STX for awhile will now go back to his old team and become their coach, along with (Z)ZergBong who's been playing the coaching roll for awhile now anyways.


LOL, Zergbong?!?!?! as coach?!?!?! Zergbong is TERRIBLE, it was already bad enough when he was team captain, but now coach? KT's zergs are gonna suck, Luxury should just commit seppuku

Furthermore, him and (P)Reach were one of the best 2v2 teams iirc. With the removal of 2v2 from proleague many former 2v2 star players have got the reputation of sucking at the game.
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