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sh02hp0869
Profile Joined January 2008
Sweden460 Posts
August 27 2009 20:39 GMT
#321
Its kinda sad to know that Jaedong could be playing hes last games vs Stork and Bisu/Luxury and eventually WCG.
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.risingdragoon
Profile Joined January 2008
United States3021 Posts
August 27 2009 20:46 GMT
#322
On August 28 2009 02:58 Live2Win wrote:
Some updates:
Go.go to WeMade Terminated
Basically (T)go.go wanted to go to WeMade and WeMade wanted him in but (T)go.go's parents wanted a contract similar to (T)Mind or (T)Light. That and the competition for the terran ace against (T)Mind and (T)NaDa as well as the complication of moving to a new team resulted in the contract not going through.

So (T)go.go now has until the 31st to work something out with hite or he will become a semi-pro and wait for the next FA.


Isn't he over 20? This is AFU.
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RainmanMP
Profile Joined October 2007
United States1699 Posts
August 27 2009 21:08 GMT
#323
Kespa 3 Parents 2 Players 0.
Nice to see Hery and Zergbong as coaches now. Who's gonna be the new KT captain? I think the next most senior player is probably 815.
이영호 FIGHTING! Die Hard KT Rolster and Flash fan.
3 Lions
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3705 Posts
August 27 2009 21:08 GMT
#324
LOL NOTHING HAPPENED DURING FA.
except the Jaedong drama. So I guess something happened.
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
August 27 2009 21:10 GMT
#325
I'm happy go.go is staying with sparkyz he's a good player and all, but how well will he perform when he had his sights on leaving the team for a better contract and is instead not getting it?
RainmanMP
Profile Joined October 2007
United States1699 Posts
August 27 2009 21:16 GMT
#326
So I'm curious if Hite will give go.go any playing time now haha.
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0cz3c
Profile Joined February 2008
United States564 Posts
August 27 2009 21:18 GMT
#327
How can go.go's parents actually think that he's been successful or popular enough to be earning a contract the size of Light's? Nevertheless, even the suggestion would have infuriated wemade, which is already full-stocked with terran players.
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
August 27 2009 21:18 GMT
#328
How many coaches does KT have now?
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Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9110 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-27 21:21:43
August 27 2009 21:20 GMT
#329
Parents seem to be fucking things up. These progamers should be declared independents or something, it's their hard work and dedication that has gotten them the opportunity to be progamers and the fact that their parents have the final say is unfair and regrettable.

Though Jaedong should be in the top 3 in terms of pay I don't think it's fair to say only receiving 200M Won is terrible, I mean that's still $160k a year and if I read correctly it sounds like that is roughly what he would've been receiving with salary+bonuses.

edit: Btw I would think Boxer/Bisu/Jaedong also have opportunities to make decent side money though endorsement and commercial type deals right?
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
August 27 2009 21:24 GMT
#330
On August 28 2009 03:19 Chill wrote:
Seriously. Someone's skill at the game says nothing of their understanding or ability to coach at it.

Liar.
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You're 100% right though. Most of the best coaches were shitty players too.
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RainmanMP
Profile Joined October 2007
United States1699 Posts
August 27 2009 21:26 GMT
#331
What happens to Air Jaedongs if he retires?
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Live2Win *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6657 Posts
August 27 2009 21:34 GMT
#332
On August 28 2009 03:21 Chill wrote:
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On August 28 2009 03:19 Live2Win wrote:
Exactly. I've been really enjoying this year's WCG Korea because of Kingdom's commentary. The guy hasn't done much the last years of his progaming career (although his wrist injury may have contributed to that), but the amount of insight he gives on the game in all matchups are incredible. Same goes to other progamers-turned commentators, like Ra and TheMarine.

Can you give examples? I've always heard Koreans fawning over the commentators' depth. Whenever I watch with a Korean I ask what they're saying and it's never been anything in-depth. Usually they're just making funny jokes. I always expect to hear some great insight and it's around 0/100 now. I've never heard it.

Basically when I listen to the main 3 OGN casters for OSL, I usually face-palm a lot (except for kim-carry). Kingdom and TheMarine (who was my favorite OGN commentator) were extremely good because of their ability to analyze what the players are thinking. They pick out small details the players are doing and explain why they're doing it, what they're trying to achieve and what kind of play they are going for. I'll look up an example.
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RoieTRS
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States2569 Posts
August 27 2009 21:34 GMT
#333
On August 28 2009 06:08 3 Lions wrote:
LOL NOTHING HAPPENED DURING FA.
except the Jaedong drama. So I guess something happened.


If by drama you mean like 5 progamers, including one of the best ever, are threatened with retirement or semi-pro-dom, then exactly.
konadora, in Racenilatr's blog: "you need to stop thinking about starcraft or anything computer-related for that matter. It's becoming a bad addiction imo"
rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
August 27 2009 21:37 GMT
#334
On August 27 2009 02:51 MrHoon wrote:
Retiring and coming back is not an option

I think people are forgetting, if you forfeit your gaming license you cannot be a progamer for 5 years.

Jaedong cannot just "rest for 5 months" and then return back immediately.

Even if he could, he would have to go through draft again, then wait another month for proleague roster to refresh etc etc.


Do OSL and MSL allow amatures to participate in their offline preliminaries? If so Jaedong can just continue his dominates as an amature, and live off the prize money alone. Just no proleague appearances.
GET OUT OF MY BASE CHILL
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary26004 Posts
August 27 2009 21:39 GMT
#335
On August 28 2009 06:34 Live2Win wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2009 03:21 Chill wrote:
On August 28 2009 03:19 Live2Win wrote:
Exactly. I've been really enjoying this year's WCG Korea because of Kingdom's commentary. The guy hasn't done much the last years of his progaming career (although his wrist injury may have contributed to that), but the amount of insight he gives on the game in all matchups are incredible. Same goes to other progamers-turned commentators, like Ra and TheMarine.

Can you give examples? I've always heard Koreans fawning over the commentators' depth. Whenever I watch with a Korean I ask what they're saying and it's never been anything in-depth. Usually they're just making funny jokes. I always expect to hear some great insight and it's around 0/100 now. I've never heard it.

Basically when I listen to the main 3 OGN casters for OSL, I usually face-palm a lot (except for kim-carry). Kingdom and TheMarine (who was my favorite OGN commentator) were extremely good because of their ability to analyze what the players are thinking. They pick out small details the players are doing and explain why they're doing it, what they're trying to achieve and what kind of play they are going for. I'll look up an example.

Yea, I'm not trying to force the issue here, it's just I always feel extremely jealous when I hear things like this. Then I watched around 100 games always getting them translated and I saw nothing.
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blue_arrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1971 Posts
August 27 2009 21:39 GMT
#336
On August 28 2009 06:37 rei wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2009 02:51 MrHoon wrote:
Retiring and coming back is not an option

I think people are forgetting, if you forfeit your gaming license you cannot be a progamer for 5 years.

Jaedong cannot just "rest for 5 months" and then return back immediately.

Even if he could, he would have to go through draft again, then wait another month for proleague roster to refresh etc etc.


Do OSL and MSL allow amatures to participate in their offline preliminaries? If so Jaedong can just continue his dominates as an amature, and live off the prize money alone. Just no proleague appearances.


nope, must have license apparently =(
another bad rule imo
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rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
August 27 2009 21:40 GMT
#337
well Jaedong can still participate in WCG and GomTV! fuck screw the evil KeSPA
GET OUT OF MY BASE CHILL
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-27 21:45:08
August 27 2009 21:40 GMT
#338
On August 28 2009 06:20 Jonoman92 wrote:
Parents seem to be fucking things up. These progamers should be declared independents or something, it's their hard work and dedication that has gotten them the opportunity to be progamers and the fact that their parents have the final say is unfair and regrettable.

I find it hard to call trying to get their children a fair deal "fucking things up". The advantage that this laughable FA system gives to the teams over the players is frankly unacceptable, and its good that SOMEONE is actually doing something against it.

On August 28 2009 06:20 Jonoman92 wrote:
Though Jaedong should be in the top 3 in terms of pay I don't think it's fair to say only receiving 200M Won is terrible, I mean that's still $160k a year and if I read correctly it sounds like that is roughly what he would've been receiving with salary+bonuses.

The whole reason Jaedong turned down Oz was because he WASN'T receiving 200M KRW. IIRC, that's the original number that Jaedong's parents deemed acceptable, and the offer that Hwaseung came out with was 140M KRW.

On August 28 2009 06:37 rei wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2009 02:51 MrHoon wrote:
Retiring and coming back is not an option

I think people are forgetting, if you forfeit your gaming license you cannot be a progamer for 5 years.

Jaedong cannot just "rest for 5 months" and then return back immediately.

Even if he could, he would have to go through draft again, then wait another month for proleague roster to refresh etc etc.


Do OSL and MSL allow amatures to participate in their offline preliminaries? If so Jaedong can just continue his dominates as an amature, and live off the prize money alone. Just no proleague appearances.

No. Unsigned semi-pros USED to be allowed to participate in individual leagues, but Kespa changed that at some point.
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blue_arrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1971 Posts
August 27 2009 21:42 GMT
#339
On August 28 2009 06:40 rei wrote:
well Jaedong can still participate in WCG and GomTV! fuck screw the evil KeSPA


can he participate in gom? i thought now that KeSPA sanctions gom you have to have a license =(
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noddyz
Profile Joined October 2008
United Kingdom462 Posts
August 27 2009 21:43 GMT
#340
Parents seem more a problem than kespa or free agency in general.

What kind of an age is 20 before you can decide your own contracts? Seems crazy.
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