• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 15:27
CEST 21:27
KST 04:27
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2914Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12
Community News
SC4ALL II: Brood War - $2500 - Dec 5-60SC4ALL II announced - $10,000 prize pool, Dec 5-63PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August)8Neeb returns to progaming; rejoins ONSYDE15Weekly Cups (July 20-26): Early returns on 5.0.16b8
StarCraft 2
General
August World Ranking: Clem climbs to #2 Life's Huge Gambling Spree After IEM Katowice 2014 Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) Neeb returns to progaming; rejoins ONSYDE SC4ALL II: StarCraft 2 Player Announcement 1/8
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event INu's Battles #19 2-Days Event Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament SC4ALL II announced - $10,000 prize pool, Dec 5-6 PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August)
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 537 Hostile Territory Mutation # 536 Railroad Switch The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 535 Assembly of Vengeance
Brood War
General
ASL22 General Discussion BW General Discussion Making an Online Broodwar Manager Game BW Drama: Terror's Debt Incident + C9 disbanding BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
SC4ALL II: Brood War - $2500 - Dec 5-6 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues 2v2v2v2 Tournament Escore Tournament - Season 3
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation PvT advise for noobs
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live!
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
The Scarlett Fan Club The IdrA Fan Club The HerO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 McBoner: A hockey love story
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
Northern Ireland Global Starcraft The Automated Ban List
Blogs
What is a Gamer?
TrAiDoS
Hello guys!
LIN1s
ASL S22 English Commentary…
namkraft
Poker (part 2)
Nebuchad
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 3685 users

Why do sentries attack ?

Blogs > mr_tolkien
Post a Reply
1 2 3 4 5 Next All
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-10 15:36:09
July 10 2011 15:35 GMT
#1
I was just wondering : why do sentries have an attack ?

Only 2 spellcasters in the game have attacks, the Sentry and the Ghost.
The fact that the ghost has an attack is quite understandable, regarding its high cost and the fact he has cloack (only useful if he has an attack).
But why does the sentry have nearly the same DPS as a marine, with the same mineral cost, and better spells than the infestor (regarding mana*usability), for a cheaper gas cost ?

This makes absolutely no sense to me, because Sentries are big glass balls and fire a Tazer while casting spells, but still have very decent DPS.

And this is a motherfriggin blog, YES I can't hide that the fact that before BLs Z doesn't have a clean response to FFs is quite getting on me lately.

*
The legend of Darien lives on
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary26003 Posts
July 10 2011 15:39 GMT
#2
Can you imagine a game where sentries can't attack? I'm seriously loling that you think this is reasonable.
Moderator
TheSubtleArt
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada2527 Posts
July 10 2011 15:40 GMT
#3
Sentries have the dps of marines? Thats new to me
Dodge arrows
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-10 15:45:29
July 10 2011 15:42 GMT
#4
Does it really make no sense to you? Good thing you're not a Blizzard dev then.

Also I don't agree with this:
YES I can't hide that the fact that before BLs Z doesn't have a clean response to FFs is quite getting on me lately

Kind of a bold and thoughtless statement, no? It's all about engaging at the right places, at the right times, with good positioning. Tactics, man, tactics.
o choro é livre
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary26003 Posts
July 10 2011 15:42 GMT
#5
I also like how you just combine irrelevant stats about units. Like I can't believe a Zergling has a quarter the cost of a Zealot, produces faster, runs faster, and has 2 upgrades and 1 evolution compared to the Zealot's 1. This is bullshit.
Moderator
Enervate
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1769 Posts
July 10 2011 15:43 GMT
#6
Every spellcaster without spells that do damage can attack. Like the mothership.
justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
July 10 2011 15:43 GMT
#7
sentries doesnt kill anything,5 damage is nothing.It has low range and stupid DPS,the only thing i like about it is the FF spam.After spamming FF like theres no tomorrow,the sentry will become useless and cant kill shit.

And this is a motherfriggin blog, YES I can't hide that the fact that before BLs Z doesn't have a clean response to FFs is quite getting on me lately


you need to flank the toss army,avoid chokes especially at your nat.Toss will use up all its FF if u flank properly,after that the toss will die to anything.
Megaliskuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5123 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-10 15:47:54
July 10 2011 15:44 GMT
#8
I'm rank 1 platinum league, so I'm pretty good at sc2, and I must say this blog is terrible.

"YES I can't hide that the fact that before BLs Z doesn't have a clean response to FFs is quite getting on me lately."

You are crazy.
|BW>Everything|Add me on star2 KR server TheMuTaL.675 for practice games :)|NEX clan| https://www.dotabuff.com/players/183104694
ooni
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Australia1498 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-10 15:47:18
July 10 2011 15:46 GMT
#9
On July 11 2011 00:35 mr_tolkien wrote:
I was just wondering : why do sentries have an attack ?

Only 2 spellcasters in the game have attacks, the Sentry and the Ghost.
The fact that the ghost has an attack is quite understandable, regarding its high cost and the fact he has cloack (only useful if he has an attack).
But why does the sentry have nearly the same DPS as a marine, with the same mineral cost, and better spells than the infestor (regarding mana*usability), for a cheaper gas cost ?

This makes absolutely no sense to me, because Sentries are big glass balls and fire a Tazer while casting spells, but still have very decent DPS.

And this is a motherfriggin blog, YES I can't hide that the fact that before BLs Z doesn't have a clean response to FFs is quite getting on me lately.

So let's give fungal to sentries and FF infestors, you know since FF is just better. That will balance the game!
+ Show Spoiler +
Sarcasm guys, chill


Fungal -> can kill an unit
Storm -> can kill an unit

Thus attack is not needed.

Ghost cannot kill an unit without a nuke.

You see, unused or less used units in BW are generally units that cannot kills stuff or inefficient at killing stuff compare to other units, e.g. Dark Archon, Queen (until recently, good against mech now), Scout

In fact if you look at the current SC2 air units.
Phoenix can kill land units (lift) and air units.
Corruptors can turn into Broodlords.
Medivacs can heal.

Essentially, all units have their roles even after their roles have been fufilled, e.g. phoenix as AA then if you have to many can lift up important units.

Dropships/observers are the only units that cannot kill units in SC2. That's the reason why Sentries attack.
Hi!
Saracen
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5139 Posts
July 10 2011 15:47 GMT
#10
Zerg definitely does have responses to FFs pre-hive tech. Infestors, baneling drops, burrowed roaches, and mutas are all options, depending on what style you want to use and what your opponent is doing.
deathly rat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom911 Posts
July 10 2011 15:53 GMT
#11
Lings are also very good vs sentres as long as you choose where you want to engage.
No logo (logo)
Existential
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2107 Posts
July 10 2011 15:55 GMT
#12
Doesn't the sentry have like the same DPS as one and a half probes? Lol when I saw the title I was thinking about the sentry in TF2....
Jaedong <3 | BW - The first game I ever loved
B1nary
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada1267 Posts
July 10 2011 15:57 GMT
#13
Sentries are sooo cute ^^

Well, they do have half-decent DPS for a relatively cheap spellcaster. Slightly lower than a marine or stalker (against unarmored units). But yeah, 3-gate expand will get raped by lings if they can't attack.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46248 Posts
July 10 2011 15:57 GMT
#14
In the hundreds of sentry QQ posts, I don't think I've ever read one about the fact that they attack.

Why do ghosts attack? Why do motherships attack? Why on Earth does Blizzard make versatile units? They should either attack or cast spells, never both! No corruptors or phoenixes please!

If sentries actually did decent damage, I could see your point. But they will always be the early game spellcaster units. Their attack is too weak to make game-changing difference. What's nice is that they have a ranged attack, so that it can help push back a fast rush (like zerglings running up a choke) after a forcefield is thrown down. It's actually quite necessary.

And don't ever compare the sentry to the marine -.-'
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
neSix
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States1772 Posts
July 10 2011 16:01 GMT
#15
On July 11 2011 00:47 Saracen wrote:
Zerg definitely does have responses to FFs pre-hive tech. Infestors, baneling drops, burrowed roaches, and mutas are all options, depending on what style you want to use and what your opponent is doing.

Furthermore, if you can find ways to pressure the Protoss early and force him to lose sentries or at least use mana on forcefields, you will have to deal with fewer later. Where you engage him makes a big difference too.
AngryFarmer
Profile Joined June 2011
United States560 Posts
July 10 2011 16:02 GMT
#16
sentries don't attack. They tickle. Tickling only hurts when you get mass tickled.
Saracen
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5139 Posts
July 10 2011 16:04 GMT
#17
On July 11 2011 00:42 Chill wrote:
I also like how you just combine irrelevant stats about units. Like I can't believe a Zergling has a quarter the cost of a Zealot, produces faster, runs faster, and has 2 upgrades and 1 evolution compared to the Zealot's 1. This is bullshit.

Sounds like a used car salesman.
I can't believe an ultralisk has 100 more hitpoints than a bunker, has less build time than a mothership, attack as fast as a marine, has fifteen times the collision size of a zergling, gets a speed bonus on creep, burrows just as well as a baneling, is immune to snare, stun and mind control effects, can cast a level five fireball with a +2 damage modifier if you press a specific random sequence of buttons, has twice the cost of a chicken sandwich, and takes up less than half the supply of Jack Black. How dare you, Blizzard?
hooktits
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States972 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-10 16:09:32
July 10 2011 16:08 GMT
#18
YES I can't hide that the fact that before BLs Z doesn't have a clean response to FFs is quite getting on me lately.


come on now burrow is a semi response and it seems to get the job done! come on son u can do it!

edit ohh wait a min u said clean response.... well its kinda clean.. it isn't dirty now is it ^_^
Hooktits of Tits gaming @hooktits twit
aRRoSC2
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark241 Posts
July 10 2011 16:11 GMT
#19
The only problem with their attack is that it's higher range than roaches (5 > 4), see IdrA vs Cruncher in TSL3. To be honest though, I can't tell if that's a problem or not, but with proper forcefield donuts it sure looks stupid.
unit
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2621 Posts
July 10 2011 16:13 GMT
#20
On July 11 2011 01:04 Saracen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2011 00:42 Chill wrote:
I also like how you just combine irrelevant stats about units. Like I can't believe a Zergling has a quarter the cost of a Zealot, produces faster, runs faster, and has 2 upgrades and 1 evolution compared to the Zealot's 1. This is bullshit.

Sounds like a used car salesman.
I can't believe an ultralisk has 100 more hitpoints than a bunker, has less build time than a mothership, attack as fast as a marine, has fifteen times the collision size of a zergling, gets a speed bonus on creep, burrows just as well as a baneling, is immune to snare, stun and mind control effects, can cast a level five fireball with a +2 damage modifier if you press a specific random sequence of buttons, has twice the cost of a chicken sandwich, and takes up less than half the supply of Jack Black. How dare you, Blizzard?

i'll take 2 chicken sandwiches please :D

just what makes you think this is a good idea op? it just sounds wrong, can you imagine how dead toss would be every game TvP would be so much easier for T, just do that old tank marine banshee raven allin and it will work so much more often...ZvP would be just build roaches for instawin, roach ling would be rediculous...and PvP would see a resurgence of the 4gate and there would be no getting away with greedy builds
1 2 3 4 5 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 15h 33m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ByuN 769
IndyStarCraft 251
ProTech79
BRAT_OK 67
MindelVK 33
CosmosSc2 31
EmSc Tv 25
Vindicta 16
StarCraft: Brood War
Mini 591
Soulkey 299
Dewaltoss 137
ggaemo 124
firebathero 113
Dota 2
qojqva1723
420jenkins277
NeuroSwarm0
League of Legends
Grubby2293
Counter-Strike
FalleN 1
Super Smash Bros
C9.Mang01166
Mew2King231
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu402
Khaldor267
Other Games
gofns13548
FrodaN832
fl0m717
Beastyqt715
WinterStarcraft617
B2W.Neo346
uThermal306
ToD289
Mlord175
elazer131
XaKoH 109
ArmadaUGS96
Pyrionflax87
ROOTCatZ58
JuggernautJason56
UpATreeSC51
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick991
StarCraft 2
EmSc Tv 25
EmSc2Tv 25
Other Games
angryscii11
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH290
• Reevou 16
• intothetv
• IndyKCrew
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Migwel
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Kozan
StarCraft: Brood War
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 3936
• WagamamaTV613
League of Legends
• Jankos1822
Other Games
• imaqtpie1615
• Shiphtur339
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Weekly
15h 33m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 14h
INu's Battles
1d 15h
Percival vs Zoun
Cure vs Rogue
ByuN vs Classic
Clem vs NightMare
PiGosaur Cup
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
Kung Fu Cup
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
The PondCast
3 days
INu's Battles
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
[ Show More ]
IntoTheTV X SOOP
4 days
RSL Revival
5 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

ASL Season 22: Qualifier #1
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
ASL Season 22: Qualifier #2
K-JUNGMAN
RSL Revival: Season 6
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #5
Escore Tournament S3: W6
Escore Tournament S3: W7
CSLAN 4
ASL Season 22
Escore Tournament S3: W8
Acropolis #5 - TRS
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
Thunderpick World Champ.
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
Logitech G Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.