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RedJustice
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1004 Posts
August 24 2011 06:36 GMT
#1
This is long. Mostly for my own benefit of working through something I'm sad about. You are welcome to read and comment about your own experiences and thoughts. ^_^

My mother loved classical music. During my birth she played a CD of Beethoven (this may end up as an ironic and/or learning point). We had a huge collection of music-- all classical-- and my mother played it endlessly. In the morning to wake us up, when we were doing chores, when we were eating, when we were playing, at night to help us sleep.

When I was about 5, my father taught me to read a few notes. I learned you could find out what any note was by counting up the lines and spaces from middle C. I would walk to the church where my dad worked (1 block from the parsonage), and painstakingly find notes on my mother's harp music. I took my favorite piece of her's-- Pachelbel's Canon-- and I learned every note of it. At this time I could not actually count music at all, and I played it very badly. But I loved it, and I played it over and over (I think my parents got sick of it, especially since they knew how badly I was playing it).

Both of them only play very basic piano. My mom plays the harp mostly, and my dad the guitar. So when I was about 6 and a half, my parents signed me up for piano lessons with the local church pianist. I hated my lessons for about the next 3 years. My teacher made me play pieces I did not think were music. I wanted to play something pretty. Something with more notes. Something like the music I heard every day in our house. My teacher was not the best pianist, but she was very, very strict about technicalities. I learned to count and follow notation very well (not the most advanced stuff, but all the fundamentals). I hated piano for these years though, because I did not like what I was playing, and my parents made me practice at least 30 minutes a day.

Around the age of 9, I moved, and my parents found me a new teacher-- Ms. Stenlund. Ms. Stenlund was almost 90 then, and also almost blind. Her mother was terribly abusive, and when she was 4 her grandmother took her and her sister in. She began violin at 4, and piano at 6. Ever since she was a teenager she taught music. She was one of those people who was very gifted at playing (by virtue of so much time), but who was an extraordinary teacher. Teaching was just one of those talents she had.

It was around this time that I really began to get into what I thought was 'real' music. I improved very rapidly because of my new teacher, and also because I wanted to spend more time practicing since I actually was enjoying it.

When I got to middle school (6th grade), my music teacher, Mrs. Lovejoy asked us if anyone in the class played an instrument. I said I had played piano since I was six, so she immediately asked me if I wanted to accompany my choir class. I told her yes, even though I didn't know what the fuck I was doing (lol kids). She gave me the sheet music and told me to go practice it.

At this time I didn't actually know how to learn music on my own. I relied on being taught the basics at my lesson, and then going home and practicing. I took the choir music to my lesson with Ms. Stenlund, and she told me she wasn't going to teach that kind of music, because anyone could play that.

I had told Mrs. Lovejoy I would accompany the choir, and I was too proud to say I couldn't or didn't know how to learn the music. I sat down and started learning it as best I could. This was the start of two years devoted to music.

I had a lot of free time during school-- my teachers would let me test out of class by taking the end of book/unit tests, and if I got an A I could go to the library and read, or work on independent projects related to the subject. However, because I was doing pretty well with my own choir class, Mrs. Lovejoy recruited me to play for all of the choirs-- 3 per grade, and show choir. During school, I spent almost the entire day in the choir room, reading a book when Mrs. Lovejoy was talking, or playing music when they were singing.

I started arriving to school an hour early to practice in the music room, or to practice with the show choir. I stayed after school sometimes two hours to practice more before concerts. I would go home, eat supper, and play the piano more. I would practice my classical music, and then I would practice the choir music, always with the metronome ticking away, and every time I messed up I would start over. (I'm a perfectionist. Eventually I got over this habit to some extent and learned to recover from mistakes, but I still liked to practice this way.)

In seventh grade this continued, but I also began to accompany the orchestra and jazz band (I still cannot play jazz for the life of me. t.t Eventually gave up on it, even though I like listening to it). Our school did a musical, and I played for that. I got quite sick during this time, I think from overworking, and had to stay home a week and a half with strep and a bad sinus infection. I still made my father drive me in to practice every morning and every evening, and at home I practiced all day. Music was all I did.

Towards the end of the school year the show choir did a Beach Boy's song + Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IEm_Yc7Ehc - listen to the underlying bass chord speed-- then imagine playing that a bit faster (very repetitive hand motion) for about twice that long, because my choir teacher reallllly loved that song and got an extended version
that had a very, very fast tempo, and was all chords. I had difficulty making the transitions and page turns at the speed Mrs. Lovejoy wanted. So I practiced this song more than any of the others. That was the first time my hands started to hurt. They would lock up as I played the same chords over and over with my hands in the same position. My wrists would swell up a little and get very sore.

I didn't complain to anyone at the time because I didn't think much of it, but by the end of that summer it was impeding my classical music with Ms. Stenlund. When I spoke with her about it, she was concerned because of her own issues. She developed arthritis that got worse over the years I knew her, and the only time she played the piano anymore was the day after her bi-weekly acupuncture, which she said was the only thing that helped. She told me I needed to cut back on the amount of time I was playing, or I could do more permanent damage.

The next year I started high school (my parents got tired of me testing out of classes and not learning anything except music, so I skipped a grade). I ended up skipping a year of Spanish, 3 years of math, and 2 years of English. (science and history don't really count cause they don't teach you anything new all the way through, just with more details) I was overloaded with classwork and the task of making new friends.

I spoke with the orchestra teacher, and the choir teacher. They both gave me sheet music to take a look at. When I got home and looked at it though, as well as the practice schedules, I knew I could not do it. The time commitment was too much for my hands, and too much for my other classes. If I wanted to do the music I would have to drop into lower level classes, and that didn't fix anything about my pain. I devoted all my practice time to classical piano instead.

While I was in high school my dad did not have work (only little jobs here and there to pay bills while he looked for a position at another church). Ms. Stenlund taught me and my siblings for free because she knew we could not afford it. She began to talk to me about the possibilities of a musical career as well. I was playing at a Junior-Virtuoso level-- the level where you win a few hundred instead of a few thousand at a competition. She told me I had the ability to practice my way into a good music school. I could certainly become a music teacher. With enough hours and the right teachers, I could possibly become a pianist and play for a living. But-- maybe that would not be possible. What if I got to school and my wrists became too bad and I had to have surgery-- and what if that was not enough and I just had to stop all together.

I moved again then, and when my family looked for teachers for me they were quite expensive-- $150/hr. My father told me they could not pay for lessons for me any longer unless I planned to go to music school and make that my career. My practice at that time was struggling because of my wrist and hand pain. I knew it would get worse if I invested more time and practice into it. I was at an hour a night now, and that was not enough really. I also had many interests and I did not want to go to a music school. Even if I studied music I wanted a school where I would be able to study many other things as well.

Throughout the rest of high school, I worked, studied very hard on my own for AP tests (crappy schools ftw >.>), and I played piano as best I could. I slowly stopped learning new pieces. It took so much time, and I did not have very much time to play every day before my wrists started to hurt. I played pieces I already knew, because they were comforting and made me happy to play.

When I got to college, I tried to continue playing. There is a piano in my dorm. At night sometimes I would go and play very soft music with the damper pedal on when I felt depressed. Soon though the piano made me feel worse. I knew I was a much worse player than I had been after so long without practice, or a good teacher, or pushing myself to learn something new. I even played the pieces I knew sloppily.

I have not touched a piano in about a year now. Today I was unpacking my things in my new room. I unpacked my old music. It made me cry because when I look at it I know I could not sit down and play it now. My two favorite pieces of all were in there. Neither of them I ever finished learning.

I learned to play piano as an art and as a discipline. I would work on one piece for months. You must practice everything perfectly. If you practice it incorrectly, it is very hard to unlearn it. (It is like suddenly changing all your hotkeys after years and years of use-- why BW players might still hit O for overlord even after practice with sc2 hotkeys.) When I learned a new piece, I listened to how it should sound. Then I sat down and meticulously learned the fingering and meter for each hand separately. Then I went back and learned both hands together measure by measure. Then an entire line, then a page, then the whole piece. Then it was finessing articulation.

It is very difficult to have the patience for this. It is also very rewarding. Once you are done, something that was once hard is now effortless. You no longer have to focus on playing the music, but can enjoy it instead. You feel like you have accomplished something large for all the time and effort you spent working on it.

When I look at the music I want to play now, I feel defeated. If I were to sit down and learn it a few minutes at a time-- measure by measure-- I do not think it would matter. My wrists do not last longer than about 15 minutes on happy birthday tunes. They begin to hurt almost right away when I play something complex. How could I ever enjoy the whole piece now?

It is really hard for me to communicate my sadness. It is something I did for so long. There will be new opportunities, yes. I have survived the past year not playing. If you watch this video:

you will see he is in love with his music. It is both causing his emotion, and also communicating it. When I would play, that is how I felt. Music would come out of my fingers, and I would let it wash over me. I loved my music. It is something that brings me joy and peace when I am unhappy. It is something I worked so hard at for a very long time.

I want to play this (3 parts, same piece):





It is half-learned.

I could try to learn the violin again, or perhaps see if the harp causes me pain. I can play very simple things on the piano still. But it's not the same. It's like giving a paralyzed person a wheelchair; doesn't make them miss walking any less.

It was not my dream to become a professional pianist. My music is a passion though. It's something I'm in love with. When I hear it, it makes me very sad. I want to be able to surround myself with music, and practice whenever I want for as long as I want until I can play my music again. I guess that is my dream now.


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Divine110
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States22 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-24 07:06:12
August 24 2011 06:43 GMT
#2
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I AM Divine <3
Xenocide_Knight
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Korea (South)2625 Posts
August 24 2011 06:51 GMT
#3
Aww this was sad.. And it made me feel terrible
I'm a music student and I haven't practiced properly in weeks because my professor is out of town right now. If I wouldn't disturb the neighbors I would practice right now...

*guilt*guilt*guilt*

How old are you now? Its never too late right? You seem so passionate about music but didn't want to go the music school?
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Limelights
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States219 Posts
August 24 2011 06:52 GMT
#4
Why was your wrist hurting? Is it your body itself, like a condition you have, or is it something fixable, like poor posture or something?

RedJustice
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1004 Posts
August 24 2011 06:59 GMT
#5
@Xenocide: Sokay, practice tomorrow! :D I am almost 20, halfway through uni. I didn't want to go to music school because I was afraid of the wrist thing, and also because I felt like I would not enjoy and be good at being a music teacher. I felt like concert pianist was not realistic, lol. Also like I said I enjoy many subjects and wanted to go to a school where I could take all kinds of classes, including music.

@Displace: My wrist hurt from too much overplaying. Doctor told me to flat out stop or barely play at all because it will keep getting worse, and surgery would just be a temporary thing. It is tendonitis/RSI that runs in my wrist and into my thumb, also sometimes the palm of my hand. It probably could have been held off or prevented if it was addressed earlier on, but I had/have pretty good technique. If you wiggle your fingers around you will feel some movement in the underside of your wrist, your tendons. Those things swell up and cause me a lot of pain when I play. My wrists get red and hot. (Happens when I type too sometimes, lol, but not as bad because I don't move as much while typing.)
Fontong
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States6454 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-24 08:43:52
August 24 2011 07:32 GMT
#6
Wow, my girlfriend has been in the exact same situation as you for about a year and a half or so. She had to change her major focus because she couldn't play for months. Even when she recovered from the pain, she can only play for a short period of time each day without it flaring up again.

I hope that you can one day play Pathetique...such a noble goal.

And your recording has reminded me that I need to expand the number of interpretations I listen to per piece. However, I somewhat disagree with Kempf's interpretation, as it's too damn french for Beethoven imo. Possibly why I go for the old russian pianists when possible. His technique is really amazing though ^^, so light when it needs to be.

oooooooooh shit edit
[SECRET FONT] "Dragoon bunker"
Xenocide_Knight
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Korea (South)2625 Posts
August 24 2011 07:50 GMT
#7
On August 24 2011 15:59 RedJustice wrote:
@Xenocide: Sokay, practice tomorrow! :D I am almost 20, halfway through uni. I didn't want to go to music school because I was afraid of the wrist thing, and also because I felt like I would not enjoy and be good at being a music teacher. I felt like concert pianist was not realistic, lol. Also like I said I enjoy many subjects and wanted to go to a school where I could take all kinds of classes, including music.


Well if you're not even 20, that's no time to be giving up on music. It sucks about your wrist though, is there no way you can keep playing piano? I mean, it must be possible to play without pain; I have a friend who practices like 8 hours a day with little or no break. You should have gone to a large university setting (Indiana) or a dual study program (Peabody-Hopkins)! Honestly, I don't think anyone here at my school has high hopes for getting a job out of college, we mostly just play because it's worth being poor to do what we love. Not so different from Progaming.. You seem so passionate about music though, reading your blog I felt like it was being written by some 80 year old haha. In music school, so many kids play their instrument just cuz.. it's missing the passion and love that you described in your blog. We could use more musicians like you!

@Fontong, Isn't Pathetique Beethoven?
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zeOllie
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Australia486 Posts
August 24 2011 07:52 GMT
#8
wow. great blog.

im 13, and after my grade 6 ameb exam i couldnt take the pressure and just didn't play. pressure from parents just couldn't hold up.

I completely understand where your coming from. best of luck to you.

When you arise in the morning, think of what a precious privilege it is to be alive - to breathe, to think, to enjoy, to love.
Zephru
Profile Joined April 2010
8 Posts
August 24 2011 08:19 GMT
#9
There is no such thing as a dream you can't have. If you put all you have toward something and disregard everything that can possibly bring you down then there is nothing that can stop you as long as you focus and believe fully that you can achieve it you will.

Don't falter on any dream or passion you might ever have, fight all the way and don't stop =)
Fontong
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States6454 Posts
August 24 2011 08:46 GMT
#10
On August 24 2011 16:50 Xenocide_Knight wrote:
@Fontong, Isn't Pathetique Beethoven?

How embarrassing of me, oh god. I don't even know how I did that.
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IskatuMesk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada969 Posts
August 24 2011 09:00 GMT
#11
My wrists have been in great pain for nearly two years now. Sometimes it has become bad enough that my entire right forearm becomes numb, and painful tingling sensations dance up and down the arm for hours. I often cannot use my left hand for even holding a cup. It began when I really started pushing into 3d modeling, shortly before Sc2 beta came up. While I will never be able to do decent modeling, I haven't stopped pursuing the completion of the projects that require this skill. Playing a game, typing, even general mouse/keyboard use for a few minutes is more than enough to incite exceptional pain in both my hands.

I can't turn away from what I do, though, because I simply have nothing else. I have taken extensive breaks from demanding tasks like modeling but it simply isn't enough. The pain is with me for life, now. Thus I do not bother trying to rest anymore. It won't help, and only delays my work.

I am sad for other reasons, though. It is not the pain that keeps me from improving. In the end, the pain is a material barrier I do my best to ignore. This means I cannot do other things that I want to do, like make progress on my Let's Plays or write game documents or anything, because the pain is too severe for less menial tasks to be doable when I am trying to make headway on the big things. There is a price for everything I gain... The pain is only a lesser evil in my fight. I choose to push forward, even though I know I am plunging deep into the territory of no return. I won't gain anything notable even if I "succeed" in what I am fighting for. But I believe in it enough to fight the current regardless.

I don't recommend you do the same, though, not unless you find a way to minimize the long term effects. I do recommend you keep trying to practice if this is what you enjoy, even if it's only for a short duration.

Even writing this post was painful for me. But I don't mind.
Xenocide_Knight
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Korea (South)2625 Posts
August 24 2011 09:25 GMT
#12
On August 24 2011 18:00 IskatuMesk wrote:
My wrists have been in great pain for nearly two years now. Sometimes it has become bad enough that my entire right forearm becomes numb, and painful tingling sensations dance up and down the arm for hours. I often cannot use my left hand for even holding a cup. It began when I really started pushing into 3d modeling, shortly before Sc2 beta came up. While I will never be able to do decent modeling, I haven't stopped pursuing the completion of the projects that require this skill. Playing a game, typing, even general mouse/keyboard use for a few minutes is more than enough to incite exceptional pain in both my hands.

I can't turn away from what I do, though, because I simply have nothing else. I have taken extensive breaks from demanding tasks like modeling but it simply isn't enough. The pain is with me for life, now. Thus I do not bother trying to rest anymore. It won't help, and only delays my work.

I am sad for other reasons, though. It is not the pain that keeps me from improving. In the end, the pain is a material barrier I do my best to ignore. This means I cannot do other things that I want to do, like make progress on my Let's Plays or write game documents or anything, because the pain is too severe for less menial tasks to be doable when I am trying to make headway on the big things. There is a price for everything I gain... The pain is only a lesser evil in my fight. I choose to push forward, even though I know I am plunging deep into the territory of no return. I won't gain anything notable even if I "succeed" in what I am fighting for. But I believe in it enough to fight the current regardless.

I don't recommend you do the same, though, not unless you find a way to minimize the long term effects. I do recommend you keep trying to practice if this is what you enjoy, even if it's only for a short duration.

Even writing this post was painful for me. But I don't mind.


Dude... You be crazy man.
Don't hurt yourself! I always enjoy reading your blogs and looking at your cool ship models.
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