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ghermination
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States2851 Posts
July 21 2009 23:05 GMT
#21
This is possibly the most amazing strategy ever invented, this is far more revolutionary than muta micro. Why didn't all those progamers think of this before? OP is a genius. From now on this is my only build zvp.
U Gotta Skate.
inertinept
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Bangladesh1195 Posts
July 21 2009 23:05 GMT
#22
wait a second....minerals can run out? on the map I play, the minerals never go away

this seems like a terrible strategy you fucking skilless newbie
With a gust of wind, perhaps.
GhostKorean
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2330 Posts
July 21 2009 23:07 GMT
#23
Would this work in TvZ as well? The SCVs mine a little slower than probes so it might not be as useful... however the SCVs have a bit more HP so it could still be viable... Let me go test it out
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
July 21 2009 23:20 GMT
#24
this blog is bad
La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
GhostKorean
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2330 Posts
July 21 2009 23:25 GMT
#25
On July 22 2009 08:20 Itachii wrote:
this blog is bad

Obviously you've never seen this strategy in action
Murlox
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France1699 Posts
July 21 2009 23:25 GMT
#26
On July 22 2009 08:05 inertinept wrote:
wait a second....minerals can run out? on the map I play, the minerals never go away

this seems like a terrible strategy you fucking skilless newbie


LOL its because you don't play fastest.
Resistance ain't futile
B1nary
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada1267 Posts
July 21 2009 23:34 GMT
#27
This is an excellent strategy until the C/C+ level. Mining your opponent's minerals will cause him to mine out faster, which in turn, forces him to expand earlier, giving you a window of opportunity in the mid/late game to kill him off. Chill's opinion is grossly misinformed. It is NEVER more efficient to mine your own minerals. The long travel distance can easily be compensated for by building a nexus in your opponent's base or natural.
Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
July 21 2009 23:35 GMT
#28
Im not sure who is being serious and who isnt in this thread.
Archaic
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States4024 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-21 23:41:11
July 21 2009 23:40 GMT
#29
On July 22 2009 08:35 Mastermind wrote:
Im not sure who is being serious and who isnt in this thread.

We're all serious. This is a breakthrough. Everyone says it, and I'm going to say it again, SC is always evolving. Mineral steal is GG.
+ Show Spoiler +
Imagine if a game came down to mind controlling a probe with a mineral patch...
Severedevil
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4839 Posts
July 21 2009 23:58 GMT
#30
I think if you put two SCVs on your ramp before the probes reach your base, you can block it. (Repair each other --> probes stay out.) Good Protoss will just get concavity at the bottom of your ramp and mine your nat instead, though. Maybe you could wall-in the minerals with a good simcity?
My strategy is to fork people.
WeSt
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Portugal918 Posts
July 22 2009 00:09 GMT
#31
At first I was like "no way this can work, lol nubs"... but then I tested it vs Garm Brood and I won, even though I'm not an experienced protoss player... The advantage I got from stealing his minerals was obvious after some minutes: he didn't even make a single zergling!
HERE IS THE PROOF:
http://www.speedyshare.com/712597707.html

[image loading]
zvz is imba
Fontong
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States6454 Posts
July 22 2009 00:32 GMT
#32
Wait...

The Garm Brood is beatable?
[SECRET FONT] "Dragoon bunker"
ketomai
Profile Joined June 2007
United States2789 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-22 00:43:07
July 22 2009 00:38 GMT
#33
WeSt, what program did you use to make that gif?
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
July 22 2009 00:38 GMT
#34
On July 22 2009 09:32 Fontong wrote:
Wait...

The Garm Brood is beatable?

It is now!
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5778 Posts
July 22 2009 00:38 GMT
#35
This seems like a great strat. I also watched the replay and was impressed by your late game multitasking and army control. That was some impressive 1a2a3a.

On July 22 2009 09:32 Fontong wrote:
Wait...

The Garm Brood is beatable?

No, he used hax.
Flash fan before it was cool | Coiner of "jangbang"
Severedevil
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4839 Posts
July 22 2009 01:11 GMT
#36
On July 22 2009 09:38 Grobyc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2009 09:32 Fontong wrote:
Wait...

The Garm Brood is beatable?

It is now!

To be fair... he is playing Garm Brood in its weakest matchup. It's the tricky brood, but its macro was always suspect. Tiamat or Jormangund is best at ZvP.
My strategy is to fork people.
meathook
Profile Joined December 2007
1289 Posts
July 22 2009 01:17 GMT
#37
On July 22 2009 09:32 Fontong wrote:
Wait...

The Garm Brood is beatable?

Don't be silly. He is obviously lying, that was the Baelrog Brood. No one beats the Garm Brood.
An ugly planet. A bug planet.
Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2396 Posts
July 22 2009 01:24 GMT
#38
This thread rules ^______^
The original Bogus fan.
inertinept
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Bangladesh1195 Posts
July 22 2009 01:27 GMT
#39
guys I have been testing this out on iccup on players around the C level. The problem is everytime I start owning him with this strategy, he uses it against me as well! what can I do to stop him from evening the playing field?
With a gust of wind, perhaps.
Duke
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States1106 Posts
July 22 2009 01:43 GMT
#40
On July 22 2009 10:27 inertinept wrote:
guys I have been testing this out on iccup on players around the C level. The problem is everytime I start owning him with this strategy, he uses it against me as well! what can I do to stop him from evening the playing field?

fuck those are some advanced tactics. i suggest making a pylon prison along your entire mineral line to block him
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