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Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
July 21 2009 22:00 GMT
#1
I just played my second game as Protoss on Iccup ever. Not knowing any builds, I decided to just build a bunch of Zealots and attack. However, in the spur of the moment a thought came to me; what if I bring probes along to steal minerals from him? Wouldn't that be swell? As you can witness in the epic replay added below, this move won me the game.

http://repdepot.net/replay.php?id=17316

Oki, so this is how you do this build:

1. Mass Zealots from 2 Gates.
2. If the Zerg attacks, defend with Zealots.
3. Attack while bringing you probes along to steal his minerals.
4. Transition into the late-game.
5. Win

As you can see he became really poor after my raid (or maybe it was the 10 misplaced Sunkens) and was unable to summon an army sufficient to withstand my 1a2a3a.



****
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Saracen
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5139 Posts
July 21 2009 22:03 GMT
#2
You're funny Brace yourself for the imminent flames.
inertinept
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Bangladesh1195 Posts
July 21 2009 22:08 GMT
#3
rofl i want to see somebody 2 gate a zerg while simultaneously making a nexus in there nat
With a gust of wind, perhaps.
Flow.of.soul
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States210 Posts
July 21 2009 22:09 GMT
#4
LOL I'm not sure whether to take this post seriously or not.
Severedevil
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4839 Posts
July 21 2009 22:09 GMT
#5
I thought ICCUP had a rule against mining your opponent's minerals? That's just abusive. They might run out of minerals.
My strategy is to fork people.
vx70GTOJudgexv
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3161 Posts
July 21 2009 22:18 GMT
#6
On July 22 2009 07:09 Severedevil wrote:
I thought ICCUP had a rule against mining your opponent's minerals? That's just abusive. They might run out of minerals.


LOL what???
(-_-) BW for ever. #1 Iris fan.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25998 Posts
July 21 2009 22:19 GMT
#7
It is more efficient to mine your own minerals.
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cunninglinguists
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States925 Posts
July 21 2009 22:22 GMT
#8
On July 22 2009 07:18 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2009 07:09 Severedevil wrote:
I thought ICCUP had a rule against mining your opponent's minerals? That's just abusive. They might run out of minerals.


LOL what???


yes, i've heard of this as well. you also can't gas steal them and then send workers to long distance gas mine from your gas steal (assuming he's kind enough to not kill it). i mean, if they run out of gas, then the game's no fun anymore is it?
So no fek
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3001 Posts
July 21 2009 22:24 GMT
#9
On July 22 2009 07:19 Chill wrote:
It is more efficient to mine your own minerals.


But then you'd run out of minerals sooner yourself.
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Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
July 21 2009 22:29 GMT
#10
On July 22 2009 07:24 So no fek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2009 07:19 Chill wrote:
It is more efficient to mine your own minerals.


But then you'd run out of minerals sooner yourself.

Exactly. The point of this strat is to gain the long term economical advantage.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Fontong
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States6454 Posts
July 21 2009 22:31 GMT
#11
Hahaha man I wish this strat was viable...

"OH SHITTTTT PROBE DROP SHIT!!!!!

They are here to steal all our minerals!!!"

[SECRET FONT] "Dragoon bunker"
Purind
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Canada3562 Posts
July 21 2009 22:36 GMT
#12
On July 22 2009 07:19 Chill wrote:
It is more efficient to mine your own minerals.


You know who mines his own minerals? Combat-ex

Guess what? He lost to you
Trucy Wright is hot
Perguvious
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1783 Posts
July 21 2009 22:36 GMT
#13
On July 22 2009 07:29 Holgerius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2009 07:24 So no fek wrote:
On July 22 2009 07:19 Chill wrote:
It is more efficient to mine your own minerals.


But then you'd run out of minerals sooner yourself.

Exactly. The point of this strat is to gain the long term economical advantage.


-____________- really?

I can't see this as a viable strategy at all.
cunninglinguists
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States925 Posts
July 21 2009 22:37 GMT
#14
On July 22 2009 07:36 Perguvious wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2009 07:29 Holgerius wrote:
On July 22 2009 07:24 So no fek wrote:
On July 22 2009 07:19 Chill wrote:
It is more efficient to mine your own minerals.


But then you'd run out of minerals sooner yourself.

Exactly. The point of this strat is to gain the long term economical advantage.


-____________- really?

I can't see this as a viable strategy at all.


then you are blind.
Perguvious
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1783 Posts
July 21 2009 22:46 GMT
#15
On July 22 2009 07:37 cunninglinguists wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2009 07:36 Perguvious wrote:
On July 22 2009 07:29 Holgerius wrote:
On July 22 2009 07:24 So no fek wrote:
On July 22 2009 07:19 Chill wrote:
It is more efficient to mine your own minerals.


But then you'd run out of minerals sooner yourself.

Exactly. The point of this strat is to gain the long term economical advantage.


-____________- really?

I can't see this as a viable strategy at all.


then you are blind.


I hope you're being sarcastic
Dgtl
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada889 Posts
July 21 2009 22:48 GMT
#16
I think I am gonna use this build against every zerg I run into on Iccup for a while :D
They don't need their mins anyways, they never mine out.
^______________^
So no fek
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3001 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-21 22:52:12
July 21 2009 22:51 GMT
#17
On July 22 2009 07:46 Perguvious wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2009 07:37 cunninglinguists wrote:
On July 22 2009 07:36 Perguvious wrote:
On July 22 2009 07:29 Holgerius wrote:
On July 22 2009 07:24 So no fek wrote:
On July 22 2009 07:19 Chill wrote:
It is more efficient to mine your own minerals.


But then you'd run out of minerals sooner yourself.

Exactly. The point of this strat is to gain the long term economical advantage.


-____________- really?

I can't see this as a viable strategy at all.


then you are blind.


I hope you're being sarcastic


No, this guide is 100% the best strategy to ever use in a game. It's a guaranteed win, especially in the early game, and if you somehow don't secure the win, you should look to the guide on Observers vs Scouts, to see what your best scouting options are (hint: It's the Scout).
#1 Shuttle fan - TeamLiquid CJ Entusman #36 BW4lyfe
illu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2531 Posts
July 21 2009 22:53 GMT
#18
Well, this kind of strategies is not uncommon in other games (Red Alert comes to mind).
:]
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
July 21 2009 22:56 GMT
#19
If you are mining his minerals, then he can't mine his minerals. Win-win.

OP = revolutionary?
Hello
Trezeguet
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2656 Posts
July 21 2009 22:58 GMT
#20
On July 22 2009 07:46 Perguvious wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2009 07:37 cunninglinguists wrote:
On July 22 2009 07:36 Perguvious wrote:
On July 22 2009 07:29 Holgerius wrote:
On July 22 2009 07:24 So no fek wrote:
On July 22 2009 07:19 Chill wrote:
It is more efficient to mine your own minerals.


But then you'd run out of minerals sooner yourself.

Exactly. The point of this strat is to gain the long term economical advantage.


-____________- really?

I can't see this as a viable strategy at all.


then you are blind.


I hope you're being sarcastic

I'm pretty sure you would come out ahead if you did this.
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