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MuffiN
Korea (North)201 Posts
recently, i have been slowly interested in law/criminology, idk why. So my question is to people who are in law school or planning on it. Is this a career that is worth going for? is the 10+ years of study worth it? Is it only going to end me up in a cubicle job where i sit straight from 9-5? Is getting into law school extremely difficult, and what undergrad majors should i take? thanks.    | ||
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clazziquai
6685 Posts
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MuffiN
Korea (North)201 Posts
On July 18 2009 08:57 clazziquai wrote: Let me take a guess...your parents are Asian? 내, 한국인입니다 | ||
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clazziquai
6685 Posts
I do agree that your parents are pretty strict though, I mean 16? Sure now can be the time to think of what kind of career you want to study so you can prepare for it in college, but to study it now? I don't understand Asian parents (including mine, ofc >_>). | ||
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MuffiN
Korea (North)201 Posts
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Light]N[exuS
Hong Kong42 Posts
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d(O.o)a
Canada5066 Posts
7. ENGLISH IS THE OFFICIAL LANGUAGE | ||
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MuffiN
Korea (North)201 Posts
On July 18 2009 09:03 Light]N[exuS wrote: I want you to know right now that it's spelled "retarded." This is also a question that is easily answered by google, and takes pages upon pages to answer. There is no set major, there is no set guideline, and there are so many different routes you can go upon becoming a lawyer; it's impossible to tell you if you will be sitting behind a desk 9-5. cool guy with perfect grammar | ||
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L
Canada4732 Posts
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Ack1027
United States7873 Posts
Do well in the last 2 years of high school and work hard in college. Don't stress about what your parents want you to do unless you actually sympathize with them. Until you find what you really wanna do, don't fuck up so much academically that you can't choose options. Keep them open. Also you're a new user so stop using so much korean and don't put Korea (North) as your location. | ||
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MuffiN
Korea (North)201 Posts
On July 18 2009 09:11 Ack1027 wrote: You are 16. Chill the fuck out. Do well in the last 2 years of high school and work hard in college. Don't stress about what your parents want you to do unless you actually sympathize with them. Until you find what you really wanna do, don't fuck up so much academically that you can't choose options. Keep them open. Also you're a new user so stop using so much korean and don't put Korea (North) as your location. thats what i would like to tell my communist dad | ||
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Psychobabas
2531 Posts
On July 18 2009 08:57 clazziquai wrote: Let me take a guess...your parents are Asian? or perhaps Greek? (trust me I know what I'm talking about!)  My advise to you would be to delay making this decision as much as possible. I'm dead serious. I ended up studying for a 3 years degree that I couldnt give a flying fuck just because my dad told me "either you study Economics and Finance or you will be a failure in life". Full of shit. Take my advice, delay the decision and try (if possible) to lean towards something that you will genuinely enjoy. I remember the pressure at that age to make such a crucial decision and it's not pleasant. | ||
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QuickStriker
United States3694 Posts
That is if you're really that that that THAT good with engineering and know all about that field even before you go into college.... I mean I was good in math and science before college and then I try engineering in college and I got butt raped for 2 years.... Now I'm broadcast journalism major! ^_^ | ||
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ShadowDrgn
United States2497 Posts
Is it only going to end me up in a cubicle job where i sit straight from 9-5? No, you get to sit straight in your own private office from 9-8 or so.  That will heavily depend on what type of law you practice though. After a few years in a litigation group, you may spend plenty of time in court. I do patent prosecution and get out of the office a few times a week for inventor meetings and brainstorming sessions. For the most part, however, being a lawyer is a standard white collar office job with long hours.Is getting into law school extremely difficult, and what undergrad majors should i take? Getting into a law school isn't hard at all. It's much easier than med school. Getting into a top law school like Yale, Harvard, or Stanford, on the other hand, is extremely difficult. If you want to work at one of those huge New York mega firms that start at 150k/yr salaries, you need to go to a top law school, but otherwise it's not a big deal. One great part about law school is that you can major in anything in undergrad and apply. Unlike applying for med school, the law school application test requires no prior coursework in preparation; it only tests logic and reading skills. Considering that your GPA is a factor in law school admissions, you should major in whatever you're most interested in and then get good grades. | ||
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MuffiN
Korea (North)201 Posts
On July 18 2009 09:16 ShadowDrgn wrote: Becoming a lawyer only takes 7 years (4 for undergrad + 3 for law school). Is it a career worth pursuing? No one can answer that for you. Is it only going to end me up in a cubicle job where i sit straight from 9-5? No, you get to sit straight in your own private office from 9-8 or so. That will heavily depend on what type of law you practice though. After a few years in a litigation group, you may spend plenty of time in court. I do patent prosecution and get out of the office a few times a week for inventor meetings and brainstorming sessions. For the most part, however, being a lawyer is a standard white collar office job with long hours.Is getting into law school extremely difficult, and what undergrad majors should i take? Getting into a law school isn't hard at all. It's much easier than med school. Getting into a top law school like Yale, Harvard, or Stanford, on the other hand, is extremely difficult. If you want to work at one of those huge New York mega firms that start at 150k/yr salaries, you need to go to a top law school, but otherwise it's not a big deal. One great part about law school is that you can major in anything in undergrad and apply. Unlike applying for med school, the law school application test requires no prior coursework in preparation; it only tests logic and reading skills. Considering that your GPA is a factor in law school admissions, you should major in whatever you're most interested in and then get good grades. thanks alot man, so Arts is the best choice for undergrad to prepare for law school becuase its easier than science and buisness? | ||
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illu
Canada2531 Posts
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MuffiN
Korea (North)201 Posts
On July 18 2009 09:23 illu wrote: Why can't people see that this is a troll? How is this even close to being a troll. | ||
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Psychobabas
2531 Posts
Pursuing a career in law or indeed medicine is highly specialised. You are only 16 now. Say you reach 23-24, and you realise this is not what you want to do in your life, you will have a massive problem readjusting your goals because what you have learnt in law school is very specialised and inflexible. If you genuinely dont know what to do in your life I would suggest a business course (Business and Law even) which is very flexible and you can work pretty much anywhere after that. If you pick Law you WILL end up working in a law firm etc. It's not like people with a Business Admin degree have a change of heart and work in... advertising for example. With a business degree you get all sorts of options when you graduate. | ||
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Falcynn
United States3597 Posts
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MeriaDoKk
Chile1726 Posts
On July 18 2009 09:16 QuickStriker wrote: My advice is NEVER EVER BE IN ENGINEERING OR TRY TO PURSUE ONE! That is if you're really that that that THAT good with engineering and know all about that field even before you go into college.... I mean I was good in math and science before college and then I try engineering in college and I got butt raped for 2 years.... Now I'm broadcast journalism major! ^_^ I'm being raped right now -__-, | ||
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ShadowDrgn
United States2497 Posts
On July 18 2009 09:26 Psychobabas wrote: If you genuinely dont know what to do in your life I would suggest a business course (Business and Law even) which is very flexible and you can work pretty much anywhere after that. If you pick Law you WILL end up working in a law firm etc. It's not like people with a Business Admin degree have a change of heart and work in... advertising for example. With a business degree you get all sorts of options when you graduate. I agree. Don't pick a college major just because it's easy. Pick something you're interested in that can get you a job as well. If you decide you don't want to go to law school during your undergrad education, you'll still have options. I knew plenty of people in law school with history and political science degrees that hated law but had no other career choices. | ||
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jjun212
Canada2208 Posts
*네 I just figured since you wrote in Korean, you might as well learn to know how to say 'yes' properly. edit; I'm joking btw >< | ||
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konadora
Singapore66364 Posts
On July 18 2009 09:14 MuffiN wrote: thats what i would like to tell my communist dad Your dad and my dad would make awesome communist leaders I underwent the same thing (at around 16 too), I told my dad that "screw off I'm not doing what you're telling me to do". He gave up for a week, then tried again. Repeat and repeat. Urgh. Just ignore them imo. | ||
LosingID8
CA10835 Posts
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PH
United States6173 Posts
Engineering is a disgusting major, btw. I have friends who graduated with that and are making $80k+ right out the door. WHAT THE FUCK?? Even DOCTORS don't make that much for years afterwards. | ||
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Disregard
China10252 Posts
On July 18 2009 11:49 PH wrote: Dude, planning out your career from the age of 16 is nothing extraordinary. The earlier you start, the better. It sucks ass now, but you'll appreciate it in the future. The movies wax all existential and poetic about doing what you enjoy for yourself and to fuck all the rest, but real life really doesn't work that way. Money is very, very, VERY important for your future if you plan on having a family at any point in time. If you plan on living alone and dying alone, then you could be happy working only part time jobs. Once you figure in a significant other, though, and even worse, children, then it really makes you regret not trying harder in school. T_T. Engineering is a disgusting major, btw. I have friends who graduated with that and are making $80k+ right out the door. WHAT THE FUCK?? Even DOCTORS don't make that much for years afterwards. Not until you gain experience in a hospital and maybe till you're* in your early 30s. Then open a clinic and rape our healthcare coverage. Earning a crapload of money while making your patients wait for hours in the lobby just to get a check-up. | ||
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Ilikestarcraft
Korea (South)17743 Posts
On July 18 2009 11:35 LosingID8 wrote: btw man your korean is full of typos and stuff :s | ||
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d1v
Sweden868 Posts
Pros: - If you have good grades, it's rather easy to find a solid, well-payed job. In Switzerland, on average, lawyers earn around 85'000 USD during the first year after graduation. - Studying law enables you to work in a wide variety of positions. Considering the fact that most people switch their job 6 times during their lifetime, studying law is a good choice. - As almost every country has it's own laws, you won't face much competition from other countries (as in economics for example). Cons: - Depending on the matter, studying law can be very boring at times (I for my part hate administrative law). This however, can be said for almost every field of study. - You're going to be bound to work in the country whose laws you've studied, except if you're aiming to study international law or something along the lines. In my eyes, this is a major drawback since I would like to work heavily on an international level (which is why I'm going to study American contract law after I get my degree). - If your grades are sub-average, you'll have trouble finding an interesting job, since competition is usually big. Those are just some points (there's a lot more) you might want to consider. Hope it helped you somewhat. Also, I recommend that you go to university during a week and just follow the courses, talk to law students about their experiences, so you get a better picture yourself. | ||
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BackHo[BLACK]
80 Posts
If you want to be a commercial lawyer on the other hand - you're doing it only for the money (say $200,000+ per annum), not for the enjoyment. | ||
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gchan
United States654 Posts
PH pointed it out, but you should definitely start planning your future in some way or another as you're going through school. Of course figuring out what to do is the hard part. Even at 16, you should already be starting to realize that you're good at certain classes, while not so good at other classes. Choose a career path that you'll find intersting, that fits your personality, and that you'll be good at (skillwise). | ||
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Chef
10810 Posts
Right now just make sure you're keeping your windows open and don't sell yourself short. Think about what you'd like to do (not the specific job, necessarily, but the work involved in a job) and experiment with courses/extra curricular activities related to it to see if you really would enjoy it. | ||
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Slaughter
United States20255 Posts
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