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yejin
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
France493 Posts
July 08 2009 16:55 GMT
#1
There is something I like to do on the internet. It's opening a thread about a subject I have no clue about, then I read people giving their opinions, some posts will convince me, some won't. So, I start having my own opinion and then, I find an interesting post that goes the other way around with very good arguments, so my opinion changes.

Sometimes, I already have my own opinion and I love to see people going from ignorant to "we start understanding" by going from page 1 to 20 in a thread.

That's what I feel with battle.net 2.0

I work in Marketing Engineering and when I first read about Battle.net 2.0 the statement was something like that.

"Hey guys, Blizzard here, Battle.net 2.0 will be freakin' awesome, we can't say anything right now but it's going to be a major revolution".

So I read this and I think "Wow, nice bullshit with 0 fact, congratulations".

Then I go to Teamliquid and I read people being completely misled by the Blizzard PR:

"Omg it means 0 delay"
"They will have tournaments and shit"
"Cant wait to see bnet, it will be awesome"
etc.

Then I think. What could they really add to Bnet, what do they have, right now. I mean, forget the marketing, forget the nice words, forget the average gaming IQ around 80.

They have AMM (from wc3)
A better UI
Probably a latency thing
A better friend gestion
A social network thing (statistics being linked).

Ok.

That's it.

And that's all it is. Quakelive does it, Facebook does it, Latency Changer does it.

I know this blog is too long and pointless. All I wanna say is that when Blizzard first communicated about bnet 2.0, they had NOTHING, just ideas and a few meetings about the architecture.

Now, they have a good tool, (probably one of the best out there considering how bad everything else is), but they dont have the WONDERFUL AMAZING shit they've been marketing for months / years.

And that's what happen when people are disappointed, they expected more than what you can actually provide.

Bad marketing.



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StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
July 08 2009 17:23 GMT
#2
they have stuff.... i mean its blizzard they get some stuff up then they tear it apart and rebuild it....

saying they havnt coded anything is dumb....
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
yejin
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
France493 Posts
July 08 2009 17:27 GMT
#3
I'm saying they had nothing when they announced it which is more than 1 year ago. I know they have stuff now, it's just not the kind of stuff you would expect after so much teasing.
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Aegraen
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1225 Posts
July 08 2009 17:28 GMT
#4
Whatever BNET2.0 becomes, it's not going to be significantly better than ESO. ESO is nearing 5 years old now, so whatever Blizz ends up doing people please understand it's all been done before. I'm hoping for blizz to up the ante, but I doubt it.

Some thing's I'd like to see:

Streamed Pro-Games on BNET
Replay sections where the top 200 can upload replays
Streamed Tournaments with live commentary
ELO and not Trueskill or some other blizzard concoction. (Use ELO like the Zone used for AoEII)
Browser function like in EVE Online
Good prize pool for ladder

Just a quick jot down. Failing to at least expand upon what ESO has done will make BNET 2.0 a failure in my eyes, as Ensemble didn't put any hype into it and it turned out fairly well after the initial bumps.
"It is easy to be conspicuously 'compassionate' if others are being forced to pay the cost." -- Murray N. Rothbard -- Rand Paul 2010 -- Ron Paul 2012
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
July 08 2009 17:29 GMT
#5
sorry whats ESO?
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
CrimsonLotus
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Colombia1123 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-08 17:35:23
July 08 2009 17:32 GMT
#6
Maybe they will have an option to twitter ingame about how gosu you are, while the game plays itself with MBS, automining and autocast.

J/K.

I dont know, i think the latency thing is for sure (didnt they add that because at the time when Battlenet came out connections sucked so hard, that without the delay almost everyone would lag?), and greater tournaments support seems obvious, plus a ton of statistics for your games and account.

But to be honest, i cant really imagine something so new, awesome and original that can live up to all the hype created around this.
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Aegraen
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1225 Posts
July 08 2009 17:34 GMT
#7
On July 09 2009 02:29 StorrZerg wrote:
sorry whats ESO?


Ensemble Studios Online. The interface used for AoE III multiplayer.
"It is easy to be conspicuously 'compassionate' if others are being forced to pay the cost." -- Murray N. Rothbard -- Rand Paul 2010 -- Ron Paul 2012
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