• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 16:43
CET 22:43
KST 06:43
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting12[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11Team TLMC #5: Winners Announced!3
Community News
$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship4[BSL21] RO32 Group Stage3Weekly Cups (Oct 26-Nov 2): Liquid, Clem, Solar win; LAN in Philly2Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win92025 RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales!10
StarCraft 2
General
RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close" Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win 5.0.15 Patch Balance Hotfix (2025-10-8) TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting RSL S3 Round of 16
Tourneys
$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) $3,500 WardiTV Korean Royale S4 WardiTV Mondays Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection Mutation # 495 Rest In Peace
Brood War
General
SnOw's ASL S20 Finals Review [BSL21] RO32 Group Stage BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Practice Partners (Official) [ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions
Tourneys
BSL21 Open Qualifiers Week & CONFIRM PARTICIPATION [ASL20] Grand Finals Small VOD Thread 2.0 The Casual Games of the Week Thread
Strategy
Current Meta How to stay on top of macro? PvZ map balance Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Dawn of War IV Nintendo Switch Thread ZeroSpace Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Dating: How's your luck? Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Why we need SC3
Hildegard
Career Paths and Skills for …
TrAiDoS
Reality "theory" prov…
perfectspheres
Our Last Hope in th…
KrillinFromwales
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1627 users

Battle.net 2.0 / Web 2.0

Blogs > yejin
Post a Reply
yejin
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
France493 Posts
July 08 2009 16:55 GMT
#1
There is something I like to do on the internet. It's opening a thread about a subject I have no clue about, then I read people giving their opinions, some posts will convince me, some won't. So, I start having my own opinion and then, I find an interesting post that goes the other way around with very good arguments, so my opinion changes.

Sometimes, I already have my own opinion and I love to see people going from ignorant to "we start understanding" by going from page 1 to 20 in a thread.

That's what I feel with battle.net 2.0

I work in Marketing Engineering and when I first read about Battle.net 2.0 the statement was something like that.

"Hey guys, Blizzard here, Battle.net 2.0 will be freakin' awesome, we can't say anything right now but it's going to be a major revolution".

So I read this and I think "Wow, nice bullshit with 0 fact, congratulations".

Then I go to Teamliquid and I read people being completely misled by the Blizzard PR:

"Omg it means 0 delay"
"They will have tournaments and shit"
"Cant wait to see bnet, it will be awesome"
etc.

Then I think. What could they really add to Bnet, what do they have, right now. I mean, forget the marketing, forget the nice words, forget the average gaming IQ around 80.

They have AMM (from wc3)
A better UI
Probably a latency thing
A better friend gestion
A social network thing (statistics being linked).

Ok.

That's it.

And that's all it is. Quakelive does it, Facebook does it, Latency Changer does it.

I know this blog is too long and pointless. All I wanna say is that when Blizzard first communicated about bnet 2.0, they had NOTHING, just ideas and a few meetings about the architecture.

Now, they have a good tool, (probably one of the best out there considering how bad everything else is), but they dont have the WONDERFUL AMAZING shit they've been marketing for months / years.

And that's what happen when people are disappointed, they expected more than what you can actually provide.

Bad marketing.



***
nospeech
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
July 08 2009 17:23 GMT
#2
they have stuff.... i mean its blizzard they get some stuff up then they tear it apart and rebuild it....

saying they havnt coded anything is dumb....
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
yejin
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
France493 Posts
July 08 2009 17:27 GMT
#3
I'm saying they had nothing when they announced it which is more than 1 year ago. I know they have stuff now, it's just not the kind of stuff you would expect after so much teasing.
nospeech
Aegraen
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1225 Posts
July 08 2009 17:28 GMT
#4
Whatever BNET2.0 becomes, it's not going to be significantly better than ESO. ESO is nearing 5 years old now, so whatever Blizz ends up doing people please understand it's all been done before. I'm hoping for blizz to up the ante, but I doubt it.

Some thing's I'd like to see:

Streamed Pro-Games on BNET
Replay sections where the top 200 can upload replays
Streamed Tournaments with live commentary
ELO and not Trueskill or some other blizzard concoction. (Use ELO like the Zone used for AoEII)
Browser function like in EVE Online
Good prize pool for ladder

Just a quick jot down. Failing to at least expand upon what ESO has done will make BNET 2.0 a failure in my eyes, as Ensemble didn't put any hype into it and it turned out fairly well after the initial bumps.
"It is easy to be conspicuously 'compassionate' if others are being forced to pay the cost." -- Murray N. Rothbard -- Rand Paul 2010 -- Ron Paul 2012
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
July 08 2009 17:29 GMT
#5
sorry whats ESO?
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
CrimsonLotus
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Colombia1123 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-08 17:35:23
July 08 2009 17:32 GMT
#6
Maybe they will have an option to twitter ingame about how gosu you are, while the game plays itself with MBS, automining and autocast.

J/K.

I dont know, i think the latency thing is for sure (didnt they add that because at the time when Battlenet came out connections sucked so hard, that without the delay almost everyone would lag?), and greater tournaments support seems obvious, plus a ton of statistics for your games and account.

But to be honest, i cant really imagine something so new, awesome and original that can live up to all the hype created around this.
444 444 444 444
Aegraen
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1225 Posts
July 08 2009 17:34 GMT
#7
On July 09 2009 02:29 StorrZerg wrote:
sorry whats ESO?


Ensemble Studios Online. The interface used for AoE III multiplayer.
"It is easy to be conspicuously 'compassionate' if others are being forced to pay the cost." -- Murray N. Rothbard -- Rand Paul 2010 -- Ron Paul 2012
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
LAN Event
18:00
Merivale 8: Swiss Groups Day 2
SteadfastSC564
IndyStarCraft 254
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SteadfastSC 564
White-Ra 261
IndyStarCraft 254
UpATreeSC 134
JuggernautJason71
StarCraft: Brood War
LaStScan 82
Dota 2
syndereN197
Counter-Strike
ScreaM960
pashabiceps921
Foxcn419
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu552
Other Games
tarik_tv3861
Grubby2745
FrodaN500
Mlord483
Fuzer 262
KnowMe191
Pyrionflax185
ToD92
C9.Mang078
Trikslyr52
ZombieGrub46
Maynarde38
nookyyy 31
fpsfer 1
Codebar0
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL162
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 22 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• HeavenSC 21
• Hupsaiya 15
• Reevou 4
• Kozan
• sooper7s
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• intothetv
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• Michael_bg 2
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota2703
• WagamamaTV591
• Ler97
• lizZardDota238
League of Legends
• TFBlade1100
Other Games
• imaqtpie1121
• Scarra525
• Shiphtur159
Upcoming Events
OSC
1h 18m
The PondCast
12h 18m
LAN Event
17h 18m
Replay Cast
1d 1h
OSC
1d 14h
LAN Event
1d 17h
Korean StarCraft League
2 days
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
2 days
LAN Event
2 days
[ Show More ]
IPSL
2 days
dxtr13 vs OldBoy
Napoleon vs Doodle
Replay Cast
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
3 days
LAN Event
3 days
IPSL
3 days
JDConan vs WIZARD
WolFix vs Cross
Replay Cast
4 days
Wardi Open
4 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Kung Fu Cup
6 days
Classic vs Solar
herO vs Cure
Reynor vs GuMiho
ByuN vs ShoWTimE
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 21 Points
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
YSL S2
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025

Upcoming

BSL Season 21
SLON Tour Season 2
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
Stellar Fest
META Madness #9
LHT Stage 1
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.