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ghermination
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Deleted User 31060
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On July 03 2009 12:08 ghermination wrote: Protoss is EZ-mode, thats what they all say. We've all heard the 1a2a3a jokes, heard Artosis rage about how he hates them. And thats why i play protoss, my barely 140 apm and C- rank can only handle toss. And yet, it just isn't the same for me as it is for everybody else. I can carpet a zerg army with swarms, (Just like reach), and NONE of their hydras will die. I can attack 4 lurkers with 2 dozen zealots and they will all get slaughtered, unlike in progames that make lurkers look as fragile as water balloons. 2 dozen of my probes can all go to one mineral, and my spamming stop and attack move fails to take out 4 zerglings when some players can take out 12. Goddamn it protoss, why do you hate me? be glad, I don't think I've played a D+ terran with less than 210 APM | ||
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ilovejonn
Canada2548 Posts
On July 03 2009 12:14 Sunyveil wrote: Show nested quote + On July 03 2009 12:08 ghermination wrote: Protoss is EZ-mode, thats what they all say. We've all heard the 1a2a3a jokes, heard Artosis rage about how he hates them. And thats why i play protoss, my barely 140 apm and C- rank can only handle toss. And yet, it just isn't the same for me as it is for everybody else. I can carpet a zerg army with swarms, (Just like reach), and NONE of their hydras will die. I can attack 4 lurkers with 2 dozen zealots and they will all get slaughtered, unlike in progames that make lurkers look as fragile as water balloons. 2 dozen of my probes can all go to one mineral, and my spamming stop and attack move fails to take out 4 zerglings when some players can take out 12. Goddamn it protoss, why do you hate me? be glad, I don't think I've played a D+ terran with less than 210 APM shit i've got more to work on | ||
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Arrian
United States889 Posts
On July 03 2009 12:08 ghermination wrote: I can carpet a zerg army with swarms No wonder you've been having trouble. | ||
ghermination
United States2851 Posts
On July 03 2009 12:14 konadora wrote: You mean storms lol, fixed. | ||
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
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Flakes
United States3125 Posts
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ghermination
United States2851 Posts
On July 03 2009 12:18 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: its because you are bad ![]() | ||
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writer22816
United States5775 Posts
On July 03 2009 12:08 ghermination wrote: I can carpet a zerg army with storms, (Just like reach), and NONE of their hydras will die. I can attack 4 lurkers with 2 dozen zealots and they will all get slaughtered, unlike in progames that make lurkers look as fragile as water balloons. 2 dozen of my probes can all go to one mineral, and my spamming stop and attack move fails to take out 4 zerglings when some players can take out 12. Goddamn it protoss, why do you hate me? Got a kick out of this ![]() | ||
FragKrag
United States11552 Posts
fuck protoss~ | ||
keV.
United States3214 Posts
On July 03 2009 12:18 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: its because you are bad GO FOR THE THROAT. | ||
Malongo
Chile3472 Posts
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
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ghermination
United States2851 Posts
On July 03 2009 12:32 CharlieMurphy wrote: lol 140 apm toss at c- rank complaining? D: i never said i was good. But there are a lot of people way worse than me, which is sad. | ||
anderoo
Canada1876 Posts
most toss' are like "yeah stop joking around toss is seriously hard" | ||
ghermination
United States2851 Posts
On July 03 2009 12:35 anderoo wrote: at least you recognize ezmode most toss' are like "yeah stop joking around toss is seriously hard" yeah after 9 years i have nearly every hotkey memorised for every race (and i've played them all about equally) but toss is the only one i can win a single game with on iccup, definately the easiest race, although there isn't anything wrong with that, imho. | ||
GhostKorean
United States2330 Posts
On July 03 2009 12:42 ghermination wrote: Show nested quote + On July 03 2009 12:35 anderoo wrote: at least you recognize ezmode most toss' are like "yeah stop joking around toss is seriously hard" yeah after 9 years i have nearly every hotkey memorised for every race (and i've played them all about equally) but toss is the only one i can win a single game with on iccup, definately the easiest race, although there isn't anything wrong with that, imho. Did it really take you 9 years to memorize all the hotkeys? | ||
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Arrian
United States889 Posts
5pool: 1a Try 5pooling more. | ||
YPang
United States4024 Posts
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OneOther
United States10774 Posts
On July 03 2009 13:04 YPang wrote: If u cant play protoss you cant play any other race... either fix your problem or try wc3 my terran is better than urs yang LOLOL | ||
Clasic
Bosnia-Herzegovina1437 Posts
On July 03 2009 12:26 FragKrag wrote: ghermination switch to a race that is fun and maybe you'll see improvement. fuck protoss~ toss = fun.. | ||
ghermination
United States2851 Posts
On July 03 2009 13:04 YPang wrote: If u cant play protoss you cant play any other race... either fix your problem or try wc3 not all of us are meant to be good at sc, and besides wc3 is just stupid. I'd rather play pro guitar hero or seomthing. | ||
Pokebunny
United States10654 Posts
On July 03 2009 12:14 Sunyveil wrote: Show nested quote + On July 03 2009 12:08 ghermination wrote: Protoss is EZ-mode, thats what they all say. We've all heard the 1a2a3a jokes, heard Artosis rage about how he hates them. And thats why i play protoss, my barely 140 apm and C- rank can only handle toss. And yet, it just isn't the same for me as it is for everybody else. I can carpet a zerg army with swarms, (Just like reach), and NONE of their hydras will die. I can attack 4 lurkers with 2 dozen zealots and they will all get slaughtered, unlike in progames that make lurkers look as fragile as water balloons. 2 dozen of my probes can all go to one mineral, and my spamming stop and attack move fails to take out 4 zerglings when some players can take out 12. Goddamn it protoss, why do you hate me? be glad, I don't think I've played a D+ terran with less than 210 APM I'm a C terran last season with 150ish :3 | ||
Deleted User 31060
3788 Posts
On July 03 2009 13:18 Pokebunny wrote: Show nested quote + On July 03 2009 12:14 Sunyveil wrote: On July 03 2009 12:08 ghermination wrote: Protoss is EZ-mode, thats what they all say. We've all heard the 1a2a3a jokes, heard Artosis rage about how he hates them. And thats why i play protoss, my barely 140 apm and C- rank can only handle toss. And yet, it just isn't the same for me as it is for everybody else. I can carpet a zerg army with swarms, (Just like reach), and NONE of their hydras will die. I can attack 4 lurkers with 2 dozen zealots and they will all get slaughtered, unlike in progames that make lurkers look as fragile as water balloons. 2 dozen of my probes can all go to one mineral, and my spamming stop and attack move fails to take out 4 zerglings when some players can take out 12. Goddamn it protoss, why do you hate me? be glad, I don't think I've played a D+ terran with less than 210 APM I'm a C terran last season with 150ish :3 well, I guess I haven't met you on ICCup yet then | ||
GoShox
United States1837 Posts
On July 03 2009 12:26 FragKrag wrote: ghermination switch to a race that is fun and maybe you'll see improvement. fuck protoss~ I don't see how sitting turtling at 3 bases until you have 200/200 and then pushing out is fun :p | ||
numLoCK
Canada1416 Posts
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inertinept
Bangladesh1195 Posts
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Seraphim
United States4467 Posts
On July 03 2009 13:07 OneOther wrote: Show nested quote + On July 03 2009 13:04 YPang wrote: If u cant play protoss you cant play any other race... either fix your problem or try wc3 my terran is better than urs yang LOLOL oh shi- | ||
KP_CollectoR
United States744 Posts
On July 03 2009 12:18 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: its because you are bad ahahahaha | ||
selboN
United States2523 Posts
On July 03 2009 13:36 KP_CollectoR wrote: ahahahaha That's not even witty retort, stop sucking moderator dick. | ||
n.DieJokes
United States3443 Posts
On July 03 2009 13:26 inertinept wrote: C- is seriously really easy to get on iccup now, i could offrace with terran or zerg with my 80 apm and easily get it, have done it before. just because a race is easy at the lower levels for some people doesnt mean its an easy race. all races are balanced equally as shown on the pro level, which is the only one that matters. Lol, if you ever win a standard TvZ at C- with 80apm please save the rep, until then shenanigans | ||
inertinept
Bangladesh1195 Posts
On July 03 2009 13:50 n.DieJokes wrote: Show nested quote + On July 03 2009 13:26 inertinept wrote: C- is seriously really easy to get on iccup now, i could offrace with terran or zerg with my 80 apm and easily get it, have done it before. just because a race is easy at the lower levels for some people doesnt mean its an easy race. all races are balanced equally as shown on the pro level, which is the only one that matters. Lol, if you ever win a standard TvZ at C- with 80apm please save the rep, until then shenanigans do you understand the point of low APM play? its to play NONSTANDARD. thats how you survive low apm, not by being standard -_- maybe thats why people with low apm struggle for the most part. TvZ i open 2 port wraith, or fast tank rush, etc. thats how you win games on iccup with low apm. | ||
lokiM
United States3407 Posts
On July 03 2009 12:18 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: its because you are bad This your micro is just poor, along with timing and macro | ||
Jayme
United States5866 Posts
On July 03 2009 13:53 inertinept wrote: Show nested quote + On July 03 2009 13:50 n.DieJokes wrote: On July 03 2009 13:26 inertinept wrote: C- is seriously really easy to get on iccup now, i could offrace with terran or zerg with my 80 apm and easily get it, have done it before. just because a race is easy at the lower levels for some people doesnt mean its an easy race. all races are balanced equally as shown on the pro level, which is the only one that matters. Lol, if you ever win a standard TvZ at C- with 80apm please save the rep, until then shenanigans do you understand the point of low APM play? its to play NONSTANDARD. thats how you survive low apm, not by being standard -_- maybe thats why people with low apm struggle for the most part. TvZ i open 2 port wraith, or fast tank rush, etc. thats how you win games on iccup with low apm. Well good luck getting better with non standard play. I always figured the point of ICCUP wasn't to necessarily win but to get better. Winning doesn't really matter until tournaments. With zergling micro I could probably 5 pool my way to B- if I wanted to... only to get my face raped off when I try to play standard at that level. | ||
inertinept
Bangladesh1195 Posts
On July 03 2009 13:58 Jayme wrote: Show nested quote + On July 03 2009 13:53 inertinept wrote: On July 03 2009 13:50 n.DieJokes wrote: On July 03 2009 13:26 inertinept wrote: C- is seriously really easy to get on iccup now, i could offrace with terran or zerg with my 80 apm and easily get it, have done it before. just because a race is easy at the lower levels for some people doesnt mean its an easy race. all races are balanced equally as shown on the pro level, which is the only one that matters. Lol, if you ever win a standard TvZ at C- with 80apm please save the rep, until then shenanigans do you understand the point of low APM play? its to play NONSTANDARD. thats how you survive low apm, not by being standard -_- maybe thats why people with low apm struggle for the most part. TvZ i open 2 port wraith, or fast tank rush, etc. thats how you win games on iccup with low apm. Well good luck getting better with non standard play. I always figured the point of ICCUP wasn't to necessarily but to get better. Winning doesn't really matter until tournaments. we are talking about offracing. on my main, protoss, I am 21-3 which you do not get by cheesing every game. I play very standard with my main race. | ||
Grobyc
Canada18410 Posts
On July 03 2009 13:47 selboN wrote: Show nested quote + On July 03 2009 13:36 KP_CollectoR wrote: On July 03 2009 12:18 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: its because you are bad ahahahaha That's not even witty retort, stop sucking moderator dick. 1+ P.S. trying not to stuck selboN dick! | ||
geegee1
United States618 Posts
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writer22816
United States5775 Posts
On July 03 2009 13:04 YPang wrote: If u cant play protoss you cant play any other race... either fix your problem or try wc3 lololol edit: reading back through your post OP you can just not play pvz LOL | ||
ghermination
United States2851 Posts
On July 03 2009 13:54 lokiM wrote: This your micro is just poor, along with timing and macro lol gj judging me without ever watching me play. My macro actually isn't that bad, (although not perfect) its just that sometimes it seems that lurkers have 5000hp or something, i dunno. | ||
Deleted User 37864
780 Posts
I place 1-2 turrets and tanks on my cliff while I expand. Then I proceed to place more turrets in my base and tanks. After that, I mass up to 2-1 while I harass Protoss in any way possible with vultures that have 3 mines each. After the 2-1and massing up (oh so fun), I decide to push out. Protoss is not EZ-mode and how fun each race depends on the person. Stick with whatever you feel best; don't let anyone else tell you so. If Protoss is EZ-mode, I expect to see more Protoss in the top 30 KeSPA. Oh wait, there's like 6. | ||
pangshai
Chinatown5333 Posts
On July 03 2009 13:58 Jayme wrote: Show nested quote + On July 03 2009 13:53 inertinept wrote: On July 03 2009 13:50 n.DieJokes wrote: On July 03 2009 13:26 inertinept wrote: C- is seriously really easy to get on iccup now, i could offrace with terran or zerg with my 80 apm and easily get it, have done it before. just because a race is easy at the lower levels for some people doesnt mean its an easy race. all races are balanced equally as shown on the pro level, which is the only one that matters. Lol, if you ever win a standard TvZ at C- with 80apm please save the rep, until then shenanigans do you understand the point of low APM play? its to play NONSTANDARD. thats how you survive low apm, not by being standard -_- maybe thats why people with low apm struggle for the most part. TvZ i open 2 port wraith, or fast tank rush, etc. thats how you win games on iccup with low apm. Well good luck getting better with non standard play. I always figured the point of ICCUP wasn't to necessarily win but to get better. Winning doesn't really matter until tournaments. With zergling micro I could probably 5 pool my way to B- if I wanted to... only to get my face raped off when I try to play standard at that level. I seriously doubt that. 5pool stops being effective at the C-/C level when every player's worker micro/scouting suddenly becomes so top notch that it doesn't seem to do damage at all. | ||
ShaperofDreams
Canada2492 Posts
On July 03 2009 15:20 scyper wrote: Terran is so much fun. I place 1-2 turrets and tanks on my cliff while I expand. Then I proceed to place more turrets in my base and tanks. After that, I mass up to 2-1 while I harass Protoss in any way possible with vultures that have 3 mines each. After the 2-1and massing up (oh so fun), I decide to push out. Protoss is not EZ-mode and how fun each race depends on the person. Stick with whatever you feel best; don't let anyone else tell you so. If Protoss is EZ-mode, I expect to see more Protoss in the top 30 KeSPA. Oh wait, there's like 6. Terran is so much fun. I place one mine in a wrong position, I lose 5 tanks. I walk away from lurkers one second too late, I lose my army. I siege one second too late against a protoss attack, I die. I lose my first tank, I die. This can go on for a while (ps I'm zerg, not terran.) edit: I have seen a pro player walk over 4 lurkers with a control group of zealots, he walked out without losing one. Artosis needs to come and rage this thread lol. Not really since its completely off topic anyway. (dang now i feel guilty for promoting starcraft racism). | ||
HiOT
Sweden1000 Posts
On July 03 2009 15:29 pangshai wrote: Show nested quote + On July 03 2009 13:58 Jayme wrote: On July 03 2009 13:53 inertinept wrote: On July 03 2009 13:50 n.DieJokes wrote: On July 03 2009 13:26 inertinept wrote: C- is seriously really easy to get on iccup now, i could offrace with terran or zerg with my 80 apm and easily get it, have done it before. just because a race is easy at the lower levels for some people doesnt mean its an easy race. all races are balanced equally as shown on the pro level, which is the only one that matters. Lol, if you ever win a standard TvZ at C- with 80apm please save the rep, until then shenanigans do you understand the point of low APM play? its to play NONSTANDARD. thats how you survive low apm, not by being standard -_- maybe thats why people with low apm struggle for the most part. TvZ i open 2 port wraith, or fast tank rush, etc. thats how you win games on iccup with low apm. Well good luck getting better with non standard play. I always figured the point of ICCUP wasn't to necessarily win but to get better. Winning doesn't really matter until tournaments. With zergling micro I could probably 5 pool my way to B- if I wanted to... only to get my face raped off when I try to play standard at that level. I seriously doubt that. 5pool stops being effective at the C-/C level when every player's worker micro/scouting suddenly becomes so top notch that it doesn't seem to do damage at all. I hate that ![]() | ||
lokiM
United States3407 Posts
On July 03 2009 15:19 ghermination wrote: Show nested quote + On July 03 2009 13:54 lokiM wrote: On July 03 2009 12:18 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: its because you are bad This your micro is just poor, along with timing and macro lol gj judging me without ever watching me play. My macro actually isn't that bad, (although not perfect) its just that sometimes it seems that lurkers have 5000hp or something, i dunno. .... | ||
Nytefish
United Kingdom4282 Posts
When attacking into lurkers you have to send goons up front, then it's zerg which will 1a2a3a their units into you which you proceed to destroy with storm and the zealots (which you didn't lose by running into lurker spines earlier). Same with PvT, don't 1a2a3a, you want to move command the zeals. And since you're not a pro, anyone can safely say your macro sucks. It might not be the main reason you're losing, but it still sucks. | ||
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