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ghermination
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States2851 Posts
July 03 2009 06:19 GMT
#41
On July 03 2009 13:54 lokiM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2009 12:18 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
its because you are bad

This
your micro is just poor, along with timing and macro


lol gj judging me without ever watching me play. My macro actually isn't that bad, (although not perfect) its just that sometimes it seems that lurkers have 5000hp or something, i dunno.
U Gotta Skate.
Deleted User 37864
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
780 Posts
July 03 2009 06:20 GMT
#42
Terran is so much fun.
I place 1-2 turrets and tanks on my cliff while I expand.
Then I proceed to place more turrets in my base and tanks.
After that, I mass up to 2-1 while I harass Protoss in any way possible with vultures that have 3 mines each.
After the 2-1and massing up (oh so fun), I decide to push out.

Protoss is not EZ-mode and how fun each race depends on the person.
Stick with whatever you feel best; don't let anyone else tell you so.
If Protoss is EZ-mode, I expect to see more Protoss in the top 30 KeSPA.
Oh wait, there's like 6.
pangshai
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Chinatown5333 Posts
July 03 2009 06:29 GMT
#43
On July 03 2009 13:58 Jayme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2009 13:53 inertinept wrote:
On July 03 2009 13:50 n.DieJokes wrote:
On July 03 2009 13:26 inertinept wrote:
C- is seriously really easy to get on iccup now, i could offrace with terran or zerg with my 80 apm and easily get it, have done it before. just because a race is easy at the lower levels for some people doesnt mean its an easy race. all races are balanced equally as shown on the pro level, which is the only one that matters.

Lol, if you ever win a standard TvZ at C- with 80apm please save the rep, until then shenanigans


do you understand the point of low APM play? its to play NONSTANDARD. thats how you survive low apm, not by being standard -_- maybe thats why people with low apm struggle for the most part. TvZ i open 2 port wraith, or fast tank rush, etc. thats how you win games on iccup with low apm.


Well good luck getting better with non standard play.

I always figured the point of ICCUP wasn't to necessarily win but to get better. Winning doesn't really matter until tournaments.

With zergling micro I could probably 5 pool my way to B- if I wanted to... only to get my face raped off when I try to play standard at that level.

I seriously doubt that. 5pool stops being effective at the C-/C level when every player's worker micro/scouting suddenly becomes so top notch that it doesn't seem to do damage at all.
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ShaperofDreams
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2492 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-03 07:15:51
July 03 2009 07:13 GMT
#44
On July 03 2009 15:20 scyper wrote:
Terran is so much fun.
I place 1-2 turrets and tanks on my cliff while I expand.
Then I proceed to place more turrets in my base and tanks.
After that, I mass up to 2-1 while I harass Protoss in any way possible with vultures that have 3 mines each.
After the 2-1and massing up (oh so fun), I decide to push out.

Protoss is not EZ-mode and how fun each race depends on the person.
Stick with whatever you feel best; don't let anyone else tell you so.
If Protoss is EZ-mode, I expect to see more Protoss in the top 30 KeSPA.
Oh wait, there's like 6.




Terran is so much fun.
I place one mine in a wrong position, I lose 5 tanks.
I walk away from lurkers one second too late, I lose my army.
I siege one second too late against a protoss attack, I die.
I lose my first tank, I die.
This can go on for a while

(ps I'm zerg, not terran.)

edit: I have seen a pro player walk over 4 lurkers with a control group of zealots, he walked out without losing one.

Artosis needs to come and rage this thread lol.

Not really since its completely off topic anyway. (dang now i feel guilty for promoting starcraft racism).
Bitches don't know about my overlord. FUCK OFF ALDARIS I HAVE ENOUGH PYLONS. My Balls are as smooth as Eggs.
HiOT
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Sweden1000 Posts
July 03 2009 09:00 GMT
#45
On July 03 2009 15:29 pangshai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2009 13:58 Jayme wrote:
On July 03 2009 13:53 inertinept wrote:
On July 03 2009 13:50 n.DieJokes wrote:
On July 03 2009 13:26 inertinept wrote:
C- is seriously really easy to get on iccup now, i could offrace with terran or zerg with my 80 apm and easily get it, have done it before. just because a race is easy at the lower levels for some people doesnt mean its an easy race. all races are balanced equally as shown on the pro level, which is the only one that matters.

Lol, if you ever win a standard TvZ at C- with 80apm please save the rep, until then shenanigans


do you understand the point of low APM play? its to play NONSTANDARD. thats how you survive low apm, not by being standard -_- maybe thats why people with low apm struggle for the most part. TvZ i open 2 port wraith, or fast tank rush, etc. thats how you win games on iccup with low apm.


Well good luck getting better with non standard play.

I always figured the point of ICCUP wasn't to necessarily win but to get better. Winning doesn't really matter until tournaments.

With zergling micro I could probably 5 pool my way to B- if I wanted to... only to get my face raped off when I try to play standard at that level.

I seriously doubt that. 5pool stops being effective at the C-/C level when every player's worker micro/scouting suddenly becomes so top notch that it doesn't seem to do damage at all.


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Officially the founder of Team Property (:
lokiM
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3407 Posts
July 03 2009 09:49 GMT
#46
On July 03 2009 15:19 ghermination wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2009 13:54 lokiM wrote:
On July 03 2009 12:18 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
its because you are bad

This
your micro is just poor, along with timing and macro


lol gj judging me without ever watching me play. My macro actually isn't that bad, (although not perfect) its just that sometimes it seems that lurkers have 5000hp or something, i dunno.

....
You can't fight the feeling.
Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-03 10:44:11
July 03 2009 10:43 GMT
#47
People joke a lot about 1a2a3a but that's the exact thing you don't want to be doing.

When attacking into lurkers you have to send goons up front, then it's zerg which will 1a2a3a their units into you which you proceed to destroy with storm and the zealots (which you didn't lose by running into lurker spines earlier).

Same with PvT, don't 1a2a3a, you want to move command the zeals.

And since you're not a pro, anyone can safely say your macro sucks. It might not be the main reason you're losing, but it still sucks.
No I'm never serious.
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