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So, my parent's asked me to do a simple thing last week, to stop playing. They also gave me two simple reasons, the first is that I've been addicted so much to the game, the second, it's part of growing up.
So, the first one may be a little hard to explain, but StarCraft was the only thing that removed the stagnancy of my life. Before I played, everything was just academics, academics, and oh look what I found, more academics; of course the mandatory chores and periodic help to the family business were also there. I never really played any other game competitively, sure I'm one of the other high school kids that was a regular to the shops across our school to play DotA, but that game sucked, especially when flame wars go in the in game chat. After playing StarCraft with a couple of friends on a map I barely remember now, and after being stomped by my Zerg friend (who continued to eat everyone on that FFA game, which looked like 1v7), and after chancing upon StarCraft as a feature on National Geographic, I knew I just had to play the game and I made the right choice. So why stop now? Well, my parents are concerned with my health, they say that I'm tensed when playing StarCraft, well at least my heart beat rate rarely increases in an average game. My parents also told me that StarCraft is acting like drugs already, because after I play, I'm emotionally high. Well, the "emotionally high" that they're referring to is my emotions when I'm just happy. Maybe it's partly my fault for acting so reserved and "limited" around the house; I show my happiness to a certain level only. They don't want me playing around anymore because of the reason that StarCraft has already acted as a drug to me. Oh well, so much for having fun.
Now, for the "growing up" part, I understand that. I'm taking driving lessons and my parents postulated that I might keep a childish/gaming mindset while driving, which of course, is suicidal. Oh yeah I'll have to add something in here since I was a little drowsy while writing this (it's almost midnight). My parents really have a bad perception of how I do things. When I was a child, I'm always occupied by something that my mind isn't where it's supposed to be, I'm absent minded. Maybe now that I have something to occupy myself with, something that they think is bad, they want me to stop it. Plus, they told me that I needed to let go of some stuff that won't contribute to a better me if I want to grow up. Damn, this part really sounds bs to me, I think my parents made up this "growing up" part, it's not entirely my fault if I have a whole lot of time, it's summer break ffs. But yeah, maybe I'll reduce playing competitively from time to time. I also have to focus on studies, so yeah, basically I won't have time to play anymore..
So what to do now? I've sneaked a few handful games at night and when my mom is off handling some business stuff (my dad is at the office in weekdays). Aside from the usual advice giving and noob/ignorant flaming in Garena, I've never pressed on that "Start Game" button for a whole week now, and I'm happy that I did. Why? I've noticed a couple of things, one of which is what I usually have in my conversations. When my dad gets home I usually tell him about a game I had and looking at it, it's a little immature to do that, I mean, is that the only thing that's occupying my life? Games? Well maybe this is part of growing up, but this does not mean that I'll really quit on StarCraft, I'll still watch those games and give advices on newbies. Once a gamer, always a gamer.
"Through this book, I want to convey how someone worthless like me was able to stand up to the world; my own 'dreams and hopes' that I never gave up even when everyone ignored me. I want to share my bloody tears with those who cry because the road they chose was too difficult, or those that gave up their dreams to take the road that was a little easier." - Lim Yohwan
Maybe people like him are one in a million, to be able to stand up to the world and all. So yeah, better read the rest of his book.....
 
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... And then, I saw the holy light. Quake 3. I knew my life had gone out the shitter. My parents kicked me out, but ill show them.
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If starcraft makes you happy, why quit it?
Although if you think you need to take a break, by all means do so.
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Sounds like you have good parents
Good luck
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maybe a few years down the line, when you're not living with your folks anymore, you'll pick it up again.
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So um, what do you do now?
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"Now, for the "growing up" part, I understand that. I'm taking driving lessons and my parents postulated that I might keep a childish mindset while driving, which of course, is suicidal."
That's made up, but if you've got to quit to achieve other things go for it. My problem is too much academics, not enough StarCraft.
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On June 14 2009 00:05 ghermination wrote:
If starcraft makes you happy, why quit it?
Although if you think you need to take a break, by all means do so.
Hmm, there are other things than can make me happy..:D Like hanging out with my siblings, which I haven't done in a good while...
On June 14 2009 00:10 armed_ wrote:
So um, what do you do now?
Well, maybe I'll stop playing but I'll still follow the proscene, no one can leave that. Of course when we're like 30~40 we can't play as we are playing now, but we will still follow it. Damn, what if like 10~30 years later and this forum is still running the conversations go like..:
Veteran: "Oh, that's Oov's kid? Kids got daddy's macro."
Veteran: "Lol @ commentator 'Those marines should get a purple heart.' I bet that's Tasteless' kid."
And the forum newbies are at lost on the conversations..
It's really a bad time to quit, actually it's always a bad time to quit, because there are new guys out there that are really talented and can learn fast. Oh well, all good things come to an end.
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Part of growing up is learning to be rational and not simply accepting everything your parents say as fact. "My parents postulated that I might keep a childish mindset while driving"...are you kidding me you seriously believe games could have any effect on your ability to drive? LOLOLOL
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I play starcraft to fill in my dead hours. My question to you is what you're gonna substitute with. What else is there to do when you're bored besides playing games or jerking off? "Hang out with friends" seems an obvious answer but I have a feeling yours are either playing starcraft or are inaccessible during your dead hours.
The growing up part was bs btw. The reason you told dad about games is because that's what you spent your time doing, gaming. He in turn might have told you what he did at work that day, because that's what he did, he worked. What would you talk about if not what's happened in your lives lately? Maybe your parents want you to quit gaming because they'd rather have you get a job so they can relate to you rather than start gaming themselves :p
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Now, for the "growing up" part, I understand that. I'm taking driving lessons and my parents postulated that I might keep a childish mindset while driving, which of course, is suicidal. I also have to focus on studies, so yeah, basically I won't have time to play anymore..
That's kind of... Over the top, don't you think? I mean, if you have problems separating driving from StarCraft, you might wanna get that checked out by a doctor lol.
I guess you're kinda forced to listen to your parents in a way, but the reasoning here is kinda stupid.
Okay, so StarCraft is addictive, yes. But like a drug? I think that's a little bit blown out of proportion. It makes you happy? Then why stop? It's not really THAT harmful. Being tensed up while playing? Increased heart rate? Unless you're like a 75 year old man or something I don't think it's that big of a concern.
But there is merit in their argument.
Choosing to study instead of play StarCraft = good.
And the talking to your dad about your StarCraft games when he comes home is a little much, unless he's interested in the game.
But why quit altogether? Couldn't you just play for as long as you have time for? (I.E. 4 hours a day instead of 8?) Games are a good way to have fun, and fun is an important part of life.
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Oh yeah, I didn't write the growing up part good...and it's almost midnight, I think I can still edit that..
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So basically you're admitting that you haven't learned shit in your life, and therefore must rely on your parents to decide for you.
Is that it?
(If you want to be a grown-up, it requires making judgments on your own and accepting the consequences. Not blindly following whatever your parents say. Your parents may be right in this case, but you have to evaluate what they say.)
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Yeah, unless SC is having a serious adverse effect on your studies or something(which you haven't mentioned), your whole post just reads like you trying to justify something you realise has no real justification. ;<
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My parents are actually supportive of my SC addiction. Even though I am terribly bad at this game, they ask every day during a WCG Qualifier how I did and when am I going to win one so they can go to NYC to watch me play there.
I don't have the heart to tell them I have no chance but it's nice to know that they support me in whatever I'm doing.
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I stopped playing starcraft long ago, now I just do it from time to time to stomp some friend. My parents are supportive as well when it comes to starcraft , because of my efforts to create some gfx stuff in photoshop. My mum is a graphic designer and still considers I'm focusing my attention in the wrong place but I'm sure she realizes that I could use my experience as a bench mark and do some serious stuff in photoshop someday...
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dont quit starcraft. It's not an addiction, its just a good habit. I AM addicted, I play ten hours on weekdays and 16 hours on weekends. You have NO problem lol. If its fun, and your not consumed by it, why give it up? Sure, cut it back if its interfering with other things, but dont end it. Your parents [no offense of course] seem to be a little old fashioned from what I've read. Growing up is not about giving up games or things you enjoy, and its not an addiction to do something you love.
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On June 14 2009 00:36 armed_ wrote:
Yeah, unless SC is having a serious adverse effect on your studies or something(which you haven't mentioned), your whole post just reads like you trying to justify something you realise has no real justification. ;<
aka where are the ladies?
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On June 14 2009 00:44 Dazed_Spy wrote:
Your parents [no offense of course] seem to be a little old fashioned from what I've read. Growing up is not about giving up games or things you enjoy, and its not an addiction to do something you love.
Well yeah, they're a little old fashioned when it comes to games. I guess they're afraid that nothing will happen to my life if I continue playing (which I won't when school arrives).
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Just learn to moderate? I think thats more part of growing up than just blindly following your parents' advice about something they dont even know.
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On June 14 2009 00:50 Xeofreestyler wrote:
Just learn to moderate? I think thats more part of growing up than just blindly following your parents' advice about something they dont even know.
I prefer not to have a lengthy debate with them about how Starcraft taught me to be calm in most situations, resilient as fuck, and be optimistic about things.
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Games rot your brain man. Not a single person that plays games has ever been successful.
True story.
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Your hopes and dreams of becoming a progamer are down the drain because of your parents? That is what a girlfriend does, not a parent. Are your parents, your girlfriend? Are you dating and making out with your parents? Keep playing StarCraft, and stop dating your parents.
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Screw your parents, don't stop playing, tell them about the 11 y.o college graduate who has never played a single game in his life, tell them, that if you stop playing, you'll end up like him, a big loser.
Just don't stop period! Let's play again, and own me PvP with your super gosu A+ rank macro/micro.
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On June 14 2009 01:09 HuskyTheHusky wrote:Games rot your brain  man. Not a single person that plays games has Ever been successful. True story.
Tell that to  BoxeR
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Ow, and btw, here's one thing, that help me out with my dad when he forces me to stop playing. After playing for 10 games on iCCup, I forced my dad to play, on my account, and he just keeps getting raped, the thing is, he got hooked to the game, and told me he won't stop till he beats someone. So it took him 5 days to actually win. ~_~ But I took it as an advantage, and everytime he tells me to stop, I just reminded him, how long he played the last time I gave him the computer, and he can't even utter a word.
Of course, there are parents who definately tell you to make a new hobby, or go out some more. Tell them that you can make a fool of yourself.
Here is my case, I followed my parents advice, and went out a lot with friends and family, and you know what? it turned out worse than they expected, thats because I really wasnt interested, when going out with family, they go around and eat, talking about blablabla, which literally puts me to sleep. With friends, we play video games as well, so basically, they just wasted my time, because they made me waste so much time which could have been a better rank on iCCup. So it will REALLY be better if you tell them you'd rather "waste your time" on something you have fun to do, than waste it on something you're not even interested in. ^^
EDIT: Sorry for posting three times in a row. Couldn't help but help a friend :D
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geez.. i hope boxer doesnt try and drive.. 30 with a childish mind set?!? we better keep him off the road >_<
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I suppose you just need to stay true to yourself. As others have already said here - if you're happy playing it then go ahead and do it. At some point your parents need to start respecting your decisions.
Good luck either way!
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On June 14 2009 00:50 Xeofreestyler wrote:
Just learn to moderate? I think thats more part of growing up than just blindly following your parents' advice about something they dont even know.
I wont argue about the upsides of starcraft, but it still takes more than it gives, especially if you become addicted to it
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I couldn't really say I've quit starcraft myself, but I keep it easy. It was tough but I realised I'm not going to get A- or win anything major in starcraft. I stopped playing competitively and now I'm more focused on being a spectator than a player. I've stopped seeing BW as a game, I'm considering it a sport.
I still get 1-2 games now and then, for the fun, but I've stopped wasting 4-8 hrs a day repeating the same build order on Iccup. Not judging anyone with that statement, just saying it wasn't fun anymore. Now I just watching wathching proleague and vods and I also enjoy the really low level games I do play from time to time.
Perhaps some parents are too blunt while stating their ideas, but try to see beyond that. They're only concerned that you might miss up on a lot of opportunities if you're playing 24/7. Try to moderate it as Xeo said.
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On June 14 2009 01:24 ReCharge wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2009 01:09 HuskyTheHusky wrote:Games rot your brain man. Not a single person that plays games has Ever been successful. True story. Tell that to BoxeR
Sarcasm NEVER works on the internet, ever.
@topic:
They're probably overreacting. My parents were pretty much the same until they saw how good I became at planning and viewing things and systems on the micro and macro management/economic levels and told them that I attribute some of it to Starcraft.
I'm kinda wondering though, how tense is tense when playing? If it's Lee Young Ho tense where you suddenly twitch like mad, then your parents' worries are valid. Seriously though, a lot of it is kinda subjective, if not rather cryptic. By "addicted", it might be the case that they see you in front of the comp playing 6-8 hours a day, then they might have a valid point. Else, you just have to make them see that it's your way of relaxing and that it's not detrimental at all, case in point being SC as a decent way to pick up on concepts like economics and management.
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On June 14 2009 00:38 Psyonic_Reaver wrote:
My parents are actually supportive of my SC addiction. Even though I am terribly bad at this game, they ask every day during a WCG Qualifier how I did and when am I going to win one so they can go to NYC to watch me play there.
I don't have the heart to tell them I have no chance but it's nice to know that they support me in whatever I'm doing.
Hah, one of my Korean instructors last quarter was just finishing his phd, so he was a little older than the average SC fan. He always said he expected to see me in Korea on television in StarCraft progames. I felt the same way -_-
On June 14 2009 01:24 ReCharge wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2009 01:09 HuskyTheHusky wrote:Games rot your brain man. Not a single person that plays games has Ever been successful. True story. Tell that to BoxeR
There's a progamer named man? Awesome.
And I don't believe there is such a thing is "videogame addiction," perhaps videogame obsession, but I don't really think it's addictive any more than fantasy books, Star Trek, or anything else you can be insane into. I religiously read about dinosaur history and species when I was a little kid. Obviously society thinks that's more cute and productive, but I did it instead of socializing a lot.
You should do what you think is right, and also try to respect your parents I believe. Moderation is possible. I think StarCraft is enjoyable and not harmful (except to the extent any obsession can be). I'm busy enough that I don't have enough time to fully delve into though, so my experience is not vast in the matter.
Edit: BTW, that part about having a childlike mindset while driving being suicidal does make it sound like your parents are little overly-concerned ... I mean, if I'm driving and think "man, the Incredible Hulk is awesome!" I don't get in a crash. Unless a childlike mindset means thinking it is permissible to roll over pedestrians I think you'll be ok.
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You're like 17 wtf. Don't quit your favourite hobby because your parents make you. Learning to moderate/do other shit while playing is the best advice given. Most people waste more time on forums/youtube/whatever you do in your internet browser than actual minutes in game anyways. If you like playing then keep playing, just dont fuck around when your out of game lurkering forums and browsing link by link for hours. That's the biggest waste of time. Playing BW actually keeps my mind sharp and wakes me up when I'm in a haze.
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i'm pretty sure your parents won't say anything negative if you play an hour or so a day after you finish some homework.
and during summer break if you play a little longer at night but do something productive outside during the day i doubt they would have anything to say either.
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On June 14 2009 02:17 Ancestral wrote:
Edit: BTW, that part about having a childlike mindset while driving being suicidal does make it sound like your parents are little overly-concerned ... I mean, if I'm driving and think "man, the Incredible Hulk is awesome!" I don't get in a crash. Unless a childlike mindset means thinking it is permissible to roll over pedestrians I think you'll be ok.
I think his parents were thinking more along the lines of "I saw this in a movie once, let's see if I can go under that truck. Vin Diesel is awesome" mindset, in which case SC is kinda unrelated. Unless he's thinking that he can get more cars if he crashes since he's running on 16 facs late game or something, but it's... unlikely. I guess his parents, no offense to the OP, are really just paranoid.
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I WISH I WAS A SPACE COMMANDER WAGING WARS THROUGH THE GALAXY! DAMN YOU HUMAN TECHNOLOGY
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On June 14 2009 02:32 Metallingus wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2009 02:17 Ancestral wrote:
Edit: BTW, that part about having a childlike mindset while driving being suicidal does make it sound like your parents are little overly-concerned ... I mean, if I'm driving and think "man, the Incredible Hulk is awesome!" I don't get in a crash. Unless a childlike mindset means thinking it is permissible to roll over pedestrians I think you'll be ok. I think his parents were thinking more along the lines of "I saw this in a movie once, let's see if I can go under that truck. Vin Diesel is awesome" mindset, in which case SC is kinda unrelated. Unless he's thinking that he can get more cars if he crashes since he's running on 16 facs late game or something, but it's... unlikely. I guess his parents, no offense to the OP, are really just paranoid.
Haha yes, that would be quite ... abstract.
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Taking a break from it mustnt be a bad thing. Try it, returning back to it after a month or just 2 weeks, gives u a little perspective on this "addiction", makes it easier to handle this "addiction".
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On June 14 2009 02:31 LosingID8 wrote:
i'm pretty sure your parents won't say anything negative if you play an hour or so a day after you finish some homework.
and during summer break if you play a little longer at night but do something productive outside during the day i doubt they would have anything to say either.
You are %95 right sir, but still there's some parents that they dont give permission even to touch computer at all.
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what the fuck...... get your ass back on iccup and hit the next rank.
Btw: My parnets TOTALLY 100% forbid me to play SC even in the summer, if i get caught im FUCKED hard. But they're asian and i can't talk to them out of it. But i've been playing for like 2.5 years still w/o getting caught.
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On June 14 2009 02:59 YPang wrote:
what the fuck...... get your ass back on iccup and hit the next rank.
Btw: My parnets TOTALLY 100% forbid me to play SC even in the summer, if i get caught im FUCKED hard. But they're asian and i can't talk to them out of it. But i've been playing for like 2.5 years still w/o getting caught.
Its still wrong buddy, i understand that you are asian and your parents thoughts but it is really wrong imo
edit: As far as i saw, people, who have a strict family, tends to play video games alot, my parents dont give a shit what i do at all but i played 10 games in last 2-3 months and lots of my friends parents dont give a shit too and they dont literally play video games too
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On June 14 2009 03:02 Hyperionnn wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2009 02:59 YPang wrote:
what the fuck...... get your ass back on iccup and hit the next rank.
Btw: My parnets TOTALLY 100% forbid me to play SC even in the summer, if i get caught im FUCKED hard. But they're asian and i can't talk to them out of it. But i've been playing for like 2.5 years still w/o getting caught. Its still wrong buddy, i understand that you are asian and your parents thoughts but it is really wrong imo edit: As far as i saw, people, who have a strict family, tends to play video games alot, my parents dont give a shit what i do at all but i played 10 games in last 2-3 months and lots of my friends parents dont give a shit too and they dont literally play video games too
Are you saying it's wrong to do anything other than what your parents say?
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If you can play/follow StarCraft at a healthy rate that doesn't affect the rest of your life, do not quit. I don't care if it's a game or what your parents say, males always will have their "toys" to relax with, whether it be working in the garden outside, using power tools, or playing a video game.
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On June 14 2009 03:06 Ancestral wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2009 03:02 Hyperionnn wrote:On June 14 2009 02:59 YPang wrote:
what the fuck...... get your ass back on iccup and hit the next rank.
Btw: My parnets TOTALLY 100% forbid me to play SC even in the summer, if i get caught im FUCKED hard. But they're asian and i can't talk to them out of it. But i've been playing for like 2.5 years still w/o getting caught. Its still wrong buddy, i understand that you are asian and your parents thoughts but it is really wrong imo edit: As far as i saw, people, who have a strict family, tends to play video games alot, my parents dont give a shit what i do at all but i played 10 games in last 2-3 months and lots of my friends parents dont give a shit too and they dont literally play video games too Are you saying it's wrong to do anything other than what your parents say?
nonono its not wrong for sure, but if youre gonna fucked hard, i wont take that risk imo (maybe i would have taken i dont know actually)
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Yea I'm quitting too. Well I will probably still dabble in sc now and then but I'm going to stop laddering and trying to be a good player. Having a summer job, a girlfriend, playing poker, and preparing for college are all taking up my time and I really don't miss playing starcraft.
I mean, if you still have a strong desire to play it will be tough to quit, but it will be much easier if you find something else to fill your time with.
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I think Xeo is on the right track. Too much of a good thing is a bad thing, that's just how it goes.
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You sound mature enough to confront your parents about what you think.
So do exactly that or bend over and live miserably.
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On June 14 2009 01:24 ReCharge wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2009 01:09 HuskyTheHusky wrote:Games rot your brain man. Not a single person that plays games has Ever been successful. True story. Tell that to BoxeR
Games also destroy your ability to detect sarcasm. Avoid them at all costs.
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On June 14 2009 00:59 SilverSkyLark wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2009 00:50 Xeofreestyler wrote:
Just learn to moderate? I think thats more part of growing up than just blindly following your parents' advice about something they dont even know. I prefer not to have a lengthy debate with them about how Starcraft taught me to be calm in most situations, resilient as fuck, and be optimistic about things.
Have you even tried confronting them about this?
If you actually like StarCraft that much, it wouldn't hurt to not be a momma's boy and at least try to reach a compromise.
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On June 14 2009 00:38 Psyonic_Reaver wrote:
My parents are actually supportive of my SC addiction. Even though I am terribly bad at this game, they ask every day during a WCG Qualifier how I did and when am I going to win one so they can go to NYC to watch me play there.
I don't have the heart to tell them I have no chance but it's nice to know that they support me in whatever I'm doing.
YOU ARE LUCKY!!!
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imo your parents have the wrong idea.
Not playing sc as much is the result of growing up, not the process. It doesn't matter if you're not physically playing the game if you're constantly thinking about it. The goal is to eliminate the desire to play sc excessively. There is no harm from playing sc occasionally or even frequently as long as it doesn't interfere with your main life goals. Addiction is when you can't stop yourself from playing too much.
P.S. computer games don't affect your driving skills, wtf. The only case where that point would hold any ground is if you play a racing game where if you turn the steering wheel left, the car goes right ~_~
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Oh and you shouldn't quit sc because they want you to. Almost everything you do in life should be self-motivated or it's doomed to lead to failure/unhappiness for the most part. Well I don't know if that's true, but it sounds legit doesn't it?
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How about you just do it and not whine on teamliquid? K thanks.
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go do hard drugs for a few months, parents will welcome the computer.
sc made me gosu driver.
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As everyone has been saying, sc in moderation is good. If you don't have anything else better to do, then why not play?
Taking a break from sc is good, but not quitting completely, your parents have no logical arguments at all for why you should stop unless you play like 8 hours a day:/
It's just society looking down on video games as a hobby, but it's no different from reading books or watching movies as a hobby. It's your own life, and you are not a kid anymore.
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god damn, i thought this was another "quitting smoking" thread, i literally got trolled/pwned.
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People already explained it but
- If you like playing why stop? if you're playing it excessively you might need to cut it down, but there's no good reason to completely flat out stop.
- I don't see how quitting starcraft is growing up. You see plenty of adults that have hobbies that aren't playing video games, so why is it such a bad thing to play video games as you get older? Like I said, if it relieves stress, makes you happy, etc. there shouldn't be a major problem with it.
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good luck, you'll be back
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Skimming through, It sounds like you are like 15/16, immature, and in the typical Asian Family. Sucks to be you.
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I used to play this game A LOT, usually around 30 games a day at my peak - however many hours that may be. Now I don't think I'd ever play like that again, it seems kind of silly unless you're making money off of playing. I missed out on a lot of time with friends, family, and other various things; I was definitely addicted to StarCraft. As of now I just play to fill in any dead time that I have.
It is definitely possible to waste time here that could be much better spent on something much more productive and beneficial to your life.
But, I dunno, just my 2 cents on the game. You just need to learn to find the proper balance between playing a video game that won't last a whole lot longer, even with SC2, and your overall life.
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On June 14 2009 05:57 CharlieMurphy wrote:
Skimming through, It sounds like you are like 15/16, immature, and in the typical Asian Family. Sucks to be you.
QFT imo...
What kind of even remotely decent parents assume that their child is among the dumbest children in the world when they aren't? (giving you the benefit of the doubt  )
The whole you'll think driving is a game and maintain such a childish mentality when driving is what I'm talking about... like OMG WTF?!
just my 2 cents
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There's nothing wrong with playing computer games, especially a smart, competitive and social one like starcraft. If I ever quit, I'd still love to talk about it anyway.
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You won't be able to quit if you just go "Oh hey i should quit, cuz my parents told me"... You're gonna go back i promise you. But if its your own interest and you gruadually get bored of it, thats how you REALLY get rid of it.
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On June 14 2009 06:57 Schismotive wrote:
There's nothing wrong with playing computer games, especially a smart, competitive and social one like starcraft. If I ever quit, I'd still love to talk about it anyway.
Nothing wrong unless you're playing an excessive amount of it. Which he seems to be doing so, in which case, yes, it is bad.
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The weird thing is, he does his homework BEFORE he plays, and yet his parents "forbids" him to play, thats just plain weird. I have a friend after playing starcraft got even better grades than before, you know why? Because everytime he finishes his homework, he has something to look forward to afterwards. It's like getting something good while getting something in return. Basically work hard for a reward^^
One more thing, if they REALLY don't want you to play, you can always go to computer shops ^^
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On June 14 2009 14:28 ReCharge wrote:
One more thing, if they REALLY don't want you to play, you can always go to computer shops ^^
Oh good luck to me looking for shops with decent starcraft on them hahaha.
Meh, I'm sure my parent's are just overreacting to stuff, which they do 90% of the time... Maybe I'll go show them some A's then they'll let me play...
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On June 14 2009 16:25 SilverSkyLark wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2009 14:28 ReCharge wrote:
One more thing, if they REALLY don't want you to play, you can always go to computer shops ^^ Oh good luck to me looking for shops with decent starcraft on them hahaha. Meh, I'm sure my parent's are just overreacting to stuff, which they do 90% of the time... Maybe I'll go show them some A's then they'll let me play...
Install SC/Iccup on a flash drive and your set.
On-topic: Man, you have some strict ass parents. Tell them you're going to do drugs if they forbid to play a freakin' video game.
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On June 14 2009 18:40 wurm wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2009 16:25 SilverSkyLark wrote:On June 14 2009 14:28 ReCharge wrote:
One more thing, if they REALLY don't want you to play, you can always go to computer shops ^^ Oh good luck to me looking for shops with decent starcraft on them hahaha. Meh, I'm sure my parent's are just overreacting to stuff, which they do 90% of the time... Maybe I'll go show them some A's then they'll let me play... Install SC/Iccup on a flash drive and your set. On-topic: Man, you have some strict ass parents. Tell them you're going to do drugs if they forbid to play a freakin' video game.
Well, I don't know what got to them lately, usually they don't mind seeing me play, and it's not like I'm taking drugs or cigars behind their back or something. I recall my mom telling me that I should attain something in my life, because she has two brothers that could have done well but flunked in real life, I guess she does not want that to happen. I understand that, well they look out for me etc etc, but bringing up that point in summer break was just extra stupid for them to do....what do they want me to do? Study in summer? lol. I only have 2 weeks of no school between summer sem and the new school year, and they tell me to stop playing? Wtf do they want me to do? Of course I'd get their point if I was mass gaming in the middle of the semester and failing my grades but its summer ffs. Wow now they don't make sense to me....
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dude, parents don't have to force you... most of the time SC just gets slowly removed from your life w/o you really realizing or feeling bad about it
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On June 14 2009 18:40 wurm wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2009 16:25 SilverSkyLark wrote:On June 14 2009 14:28 ReCharge wrote:
One more thing, if they REALLY don't want you to play, you can always go to computer shops ^^ Oh good luck to me looking for shops with decent starcraft on them hahaha. Meh, I'm sure my parent's are just overreacting to stuff, which they do 90% of the time... Maybe I'll go show them some A's then they'll let me play... Install SC/Iccup on a flash drive and your set. On-topic: Man, you have some strict ass parents. Tell them you're going to do drugs if they forbid to play a freakin' video game. That's what I'd always tell my mom when she yelled at me about how addicted I was.
I'd always respond back, "There's way worse things to be addicted to!"
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On June 14 2009 16:25 SilverSkyLark wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2009 14:28 ReCharge wrote:
One more thing, if they REALLY don't want you to play, you can always go to computer shops ^^ Oh good luck to me looking for shops with decent starcraft on them hahaha. Meh, I'm sure my parent's are just overreacting to stuff, which they do 90% of the time... Maybe I'll go show them some A's then they'll let me play...
For sure. Sometimes the older generation just attaches such ridiculous stigma to healthy hobbies.
If you were obsessed with chess, would they be so harsh? Or some other ancient game of intellect? StarCraft is no less a game of intellect than chess.
IMO hobbies make you stronger and build character. As long as they aren't interfering with the rest of your life, there's no reason not to enjoy them. 'Growing up' isn't about giving up the things you love. It's about becoming a self-sustaining, mature individual. StarCraft isn't going to impair that unless you're playing 4+ hours a day and not studying/working.
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Only men play starcraft lol
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On June 15 2009 05:38 Chef wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2009 16:25 SilverSkyLark wrote:On June 14 2009 14:28 ReCharge wrote:
One more thing, if they REALLY don't want you to play, you can always go to computer shops ^^ Oh good luck to me looking for shops with decent starcraft on them hahaha. Meh, I'm sure my parent's are just overreacting to stuff, which they do 90% of the time... Maybe I'll go show them some A's then they'll let me play... For sure. Sometimes the older generation just attaches such ridiculous stigma to healthy hobbies.
If you were obsessed with chess, would they be so harsh? Or some other ancient game of intellect? StarCraft is no less a game of intellect than chess.IMO hobbies make you stronger and build character. As long as they aren't interfering with the rest of your life, there's no reason not to enjoy them. 'Growing up' isn't about giving up the things you love. It's about becoming a self-sustaining, mature individual. StarCraft isn't going to impair that unless you're playing 4+ hours a day and not studying/working.
For a good time, I was addicted to chess but my parents didn't really mind, maybe it's because something they can relate to (esp my dad). Oh well, I guess their paranoia went a little too overboard on this one...I'll just let it cool down a bit..
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On June 15 2009 12:20 SilverSkyLark wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2009 05:38 Chef wrote:On June 14 2009 16:25 SilverSkyLark wrote:On June 14 2009 14:28 ReCharge wrote:
One more thing, if they REALLY don't want you to play, you can always go to computer shops ^^ Oh good luck to me looking for shops with decent starcraft on them hahaha. Meh, I'm sure my parent's are just overreacting to stuff, which they do 90% of the time... Maybe I'll go show them some A's then they'll let me play... For sure. Sometimes the older generation just attaches such ridiculous stigma to healthy hobbies.
If you were obsessed with chess, would they be so harsh? Or some other ancient game of intellect? StarCraft is no less a game of intellect than chess.IMO hobbies make you stronger and build character. As long as they aren't interfering with the rest of your life, there's no reason not to enjoy them. 'Growing up' isn't about giving up the things you love. It's about becoming a self-sustaining, mature individual. StarCraft isn't going to impair that unless you're playing 4+ hours a day and not studying/working. For a good time, I was addicted to chess but my parents didn't really mind, maybe it's because something they can relate to (esp my dad). Oh well, I guess their paranoia went a little too overboard on this one...I'll just let it cool down a bit..
My grandpa(Paternal) plays chess EVERYDAY, like he's one of those really poor villagers in china, and thats all he does, he even goes to major tournies that he barely can afford. He's a massive chess fan. (chinese chess)
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What the...? Can't believe all this crap.
Listen to your parents. In the long run you'll realize they were right and you can never rewind time and undo all the time lost. Stinkers.
There's so much more in life than just starcraft!
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Well obviously...but starcraft is still fun and a worthwhile activity if you enjoy it......
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Yeah I think you just need to strike a balance. Many of us are fooled by right and wrong when the answer is simply to just strike a balance.
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On June 14 2009 04:32 MiniRoman wrote:
go do hard drugs for a few months, parents will welcome the computer.
this is exactly what i told my parents when i was 18ish and they told me to stop playing video games and go out with my friends! hahah i told them OKAY since all my friends are playing STARCRAFT, i'll go get hammered and do E every night like all the other kids at school!
they understood pretty fast 
and now i am a successful person... in their opinion, and in mine. so much for video games ruining people's lives
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On June 14 2009 00:24 Ingenol wrote:
Part of growing up is learning to be rational and not simply accepting everything your parents say as fact. "My parents postulated that I might keep a childish mindset while driving"...are you kidding me you seriously believe games could have any effect on your ability to drive? LOLOLOL
Yeah this is true. Your parents are a result of their upbringing, and the young adults of today play much more computer games for example, and thus it will be a more accepted activity very soon.
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the second, it's part of growing up.
bullllllllshit
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i still tell my dad about my game on starcraft lol T_T he calls me a noob and such.
anyway, i think it's best to have a balance of fun and studies. don't agree on the growing up stuff, adults play games too lol. why take away the fun?
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