• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 21:36
CEST 03:36
KST 10:36
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt2: Take-Off7[ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt1: Runway132v2 & SC: Evo Complete: Weekend Double Feature4Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy9uThermal's 2v2 Tour: $15,000 Main Event18
Community News
Weekly Cups (Aug 18-24): herO dethrones MaxPax6Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris31Weekly Cups (Aug 11-17): MaxPax triples again!13Weekly Cups (Aug 4-10): MaxPax wins a triple6SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 195
StarCraft 2
General
#2: Serral - Greatest Players of All Time #1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time I hope balance council is prepping final balance Geoff 'iNcontroL' Robinson has passed away Aligulac - Europe takes the podium
Tourneys
Esports World Cup 2025 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris WardiTV Mondays RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 488 What Goes Around Mutation # 487 Think Fast Mutation # 486 Watch the Skies Mutation # 485 Death from Below
Brood War
General
BSL Polish World Championship 2025 20-21 September BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ ASL Season 20 Ro24 Groups Flash On His 2010 "God" Form, Mind Games, vs JD No Rain in ASL20?
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [IPSL] CSLAN Review and CSLPRO Reimagined! [ASL20] Ro24 Group F [ASL20] Ro24 Group D
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting Muta micro map competition
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Dawn of War IV Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The year 2050 European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
High temperatures on bridge(s) Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment"
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale
Blogs
RTS Design in Hypercoven
a11
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
Breaking the Meta: Non-Stand…
TrAiDoS
INDEPENDIENTE LA CTM
XenOsky
[Girl blog} My fema…
artosisisthebest
Sharpening the Filtration…
frozenclaw
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1211 users

Easy Physics Question

Blogs > GrayArea
Post a Reply
GrayArea
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States872 Posts
May 23 2009 06:05 GMT
#1
Another infamous physics blog. Here is my easy question: How do I simplify this RC circuit using only V=IR and C=Q/V if that is even possible.

[image loading]


so the questions are
1) Simplify circuit to find the Current (A)
2) What is the voltage across the capacitor

Thanks

*
Kang Min Fighting!
Mooga
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States575 Posts
May 23 2009 06:18 GMT
#2
You can simplify the circuit only if you are considering the steady state DC response. Are you interested in the transient response or just steady state?
Mooga
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States575 Posts
May 23 2009 06:20 GMT
#3
Oh nevermind, the circuit is closed to begin with. In that case get rid of the capacitor in parallel with the resistor.
Mooga
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States575 Posts
May 23 2009 06:23 GMT
#4
I'm not sure why your circuit has a capacitor in there if there is not switch in the circuit.

The total resistance is 4 ohms, thus the amperage through the circuit is 3 amps. Which gives you 6 volts across the capacitor.
GrayArea
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States872 Posts
May 23 2009 06:26 GMT
#5
On May 23 2009 15:23 Mooga wrote:
I'm not sure why your circuit has a capacitor in there if there is not switch in the circuit.

The total resistance is 4 ohms, thus the amperage through the circuit is 3 amps. Which gives you 6 volts across the capacitor.

Can you show the calculations? I think my answerbook has a typo.
Kang Min Fighting!
Pseudo_Utopia
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Canada827 Posts
May 23 2009 06:33 GMT
#6
Actually you can simplify it too in AC, it's just a little more complicated. You have to use complex numbers to convert R and C both into complex impedences. It's explained here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complex_impedence

But in the DC case, you'll indeed have a 4 amp resistance but only after the capacitor is fully charged. At first, the effective resistance of the parallel branches will be 0, because Q = CV implies that when there is no charge on the capacitor (Q=0), then V=0 and so the capacitor "acts like a wire".

Hope this helps ^^
Retired SchiSm[LighT]
Mooga
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States575 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-23 06:36:06
May 23 2009 06:34 GMT
#7
2 + 2 = 4 ohms (resistors in series)

I = V/R, I = 12/4 = 3 amps

V = IR = 3 * 2 = 6 volts

Assuming that the battery is a DC source, then my answer should be right because the capacitor should behave as an open circuit.

Edit: And I'm assuming that it is at steady-state.
GrayArea
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States872 Posts
May 23 2009 06:43 GMT
#8
Thanks Mooga, really appreciate the help. I think they wrote the answer to a wrong circuit in the back for this problem.
Kang Min Fighting!
Mooga
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States575 Posts
May 23 2009 06:52 GMT
#9
On May 23 2009 15:43 GrayArea wrote:
Thanks Mooga, really appreciate the help. I think they wrote the answer to a wrong circuit in the back for this problem.


No problem, good luck with physics.
Saracen
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5139 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-23 07:06:43
May 23 2009 07:02 GMT
#10
the answers depend on the time the circuit has been running btw
above answers are true for t=much

at t=0 the capacitor has stored no charge and acts like a wire, so
Rtot = 2 ohms
Qcap = 0 C
Vcap = 0 V
I = 6 A
Vr1 (top resistor) = 0 V
Vr2 (bottom resistor) = 12 V
fight_or_flight
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States3988 Posts
May 23 2009 07:20 GMT
#11
On May 23 2009 16:02 Saracen wrote:
at t=0 the capacitor has stored no charge and acts like a wire, so

hm, but if you are solving for the transient then I don't see how you can assume this. You will have an equation with 2 variables: time and initial charge/voltage on the capacitor
Do you really want chat rooms?
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
00:00
SEL S2 Championship: Ro16
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft188
SpeCial 137
ProTech79
RuFF_SC2 41
Nina 39
StarCraft: Brood War
Artosis 735
Sharp 48
Icarus 3
Beast 2
Dota 2
monkeys_forever946
League of Legends
JimRising 302
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K771
taco 190
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox506
Mew2King20
Other Games
tarik_tv13368
summit1g8554
Day[9].tv841
shahzam631
C9.Mang0319
ViBE213
Maynarde123
ROOTCatZ0
Organizations
StarCraft 2
CranKy Ducklings133
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• OhrlRock 1
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki2
• iopq 1
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Doublelift4336
• Stunt267
Other Games
• Day9tv841
Upcoming Events
The PondCast
8h 25m
WardiTV Summer Champion…
9h 25m
herO vs MaxPax
Clem vs Classic
Replay Cast
22h 25m
LiuLi Cup
1d 9h
MaxPax vs TriGGeR
ByuN vs herO
Cure vs Rogue
Classic vs HeRoMaRinE
Cosmonarchy
1d 14h
OyAji vs Sziky
Sziky vs WolFix
WolFix vs OyAji
Big Brain Bouts
1d 14h
Iba vs GgMaChine
TriGGeR vs Bunny
Reynor vs Classic
Serral vs Clem
BSL Team Wars
1d 17h
Team Hawk vs Team Dewalt
BSL Team Wars
1d 17h
Team Hawk vs Team Bonyth
SC Evo League
2 days
TaeJa vs Cure
Rogue vs threepoint
ByuN vs Creator
MaNa vs Classic
Maestros of the Game
2 days
ShoWTimE vs Cham
GuMiho vs Ryung
Zoun vs Spirit
Rogue vs MaNa
[ Show More ]
[BSL 2025] Weekly
2 days
SC Evo League
3 days
Maestros of the Game
3 days
SHIN vs Creator
Astrea vs Lambo
Bunny vs SKillous
HeRoMaRinE vs TriGGeR
BSL Team Wars
3 days
Team Bonyth vs Team Sziky
BSL Team Wars
3 days
Team Dewalt vs Team Sziky
Monday Night Weeklies
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Season 18: Qualifier 1
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
HCC Europe

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
ASL Season 20
Acropolis #4 - TS1
CSL Season 18: Qualifier 2
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025

Upcoming

CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
LASL Season 20
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
Chzzk MurlocKing SC1 vs SC2 Cup #2
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
EC S1
Sisters' Call Cup
Skyesports Masters 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
Roobet Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.