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Elian
United States129 Posts
Good luck with the team. | ||
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zejonkerman
United States1 Post
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Klockan3
Sweden2866 Posts
On April 20 2009 06:48 zejonkerman wrote: ze womenz are okz, swedish wmoenz very very sexy. u want my sister four team yes? she cook, clean, very good, make hand job, blow job good yes, she do many thing good yes, female equal opportunity very good yes? she also play game i think Ze swedes got ze highest sex equality in ze world! (No joke) And we aren't Germans, Swedes say "the" more like "dee", and actually I believed that germans saying "ze" was just a joke till I met some german scientists.... They talk exactly like that! | ||
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daz
Canada643 Posts
On April 20 2009 05:18 The.Crow wrote: Thanks guys, I was expecting I will get flamed to death cause I made it all the way from SC to CS :D but seriously, I also help out on readmore.eu with news and coverage and hope that makes it possible I can attend again some events this year and do a bunch of SC video interviews. Did like 100 interviews last year, but without any doubt the SC guys give the best answers and bring the most fun Well daz, I don't agree that female teams have for example the same financial backing as male teams. In general the female scene is not really developed and established. I see the reason for that in the fact that they never were given a chance. The community didn't want to take them serious (is that a wonder when 95% of the eSports community are males?), the eSports press often ignored them, the same goes when it comes to tournament holders. For example there is the ESL Major Series for female Counter-Strike. 750 Euro in cash every season. Last season actually Zinic won, but you can find a news no where. I wonder why it is like that. That is for example one thing when I talk about fighting for more equal conditions. Another thing is that girls are often just not allowed to participate in male tournaments in CS. But why? Even if they drop out in the first round, shouldn't they given a try? Otherwise, where is the motivation for the girls to practice, where is the motivation for them to become better, where is the motivation for them to even play in the end? One thing that is behind that all is www.zinicauction.com (better design to come!), which can make it possible that eSports doesn't depend only on sponsors any longer in the future. I didnt say that they had the same financial backing as male teams. I was saying that if you take a male team and a female team of the same skill, the female team will have WAY MORE FINANCIAL BACKING. For example your team Zinic, if a male team that had the same skill level as Zinic approached you and asked for sponsorship, you would probably tell them they suck and laugh at them until they left. But because zinic is females, you are giving them money. | ||
keit
1584 Posts
On April 20 2009 07:07 Klockan3 wrote: actually I believed that germans saying "ze" was just a joke till I met some german scientists.... They talk exactly like that! also french ;; | ||
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Klockan3
Sweden2866 Posts
On April 20 2009 07:21 daz wrote: I didnt say that they had the same financial backing as male teams. I was saying that if you take a male team and a female team of the same skill, the female team will have WAY MORE FINANCIAL BACKING. For example your team Zinic, if a male team that had the same skill level as Zinic approached you and asked for sponsorship, you would probably tell them they suck and laugh at them until they left. But because zinic is females, you are giving them money. I wonder what would actually happen if a female team was the best team in the world... How would people react? | ||
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daz
Canada643 Posts
Edit: But they dont need to be able to compete, because they are girls, they will get money from guys like Crow who are promoting "equality" | ||
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Icysoul
Canada254 Posts
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bigsack
Korea (North)220 Posts
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Bosu
United States3247 Posts
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On April 20 2009 07:36 daz wrote: i would love it, but at this point, the best female teams cant even compete with good amateur male teams Edit: But they dont need to be able to compete, because they are girls, they will get money from guys like Crow who are promoting "equality" The argument for women's teams is that it's the entertainment industry, and women's teams draw higher ratings in comparison to skill level than a male team would, and I agree. It'd just be nice if it were billed that way, instead of for "equality." It would be interesting to see what would happen if a college had an official e-sports team. | ||
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
On April 20 2009 08:09 Jibba wrote: The argument for women's teams is that it's the entertainment industry, and women's teams draw higher ratings in comparison to skill level than a male team would, and I agree. It'd just be nice if it were billed that way, instead of for "equality." It would be interesting to see what would happen if a college had an official e-sports team. they'd either fail at college or fail at e-sports  thats my guess at least omfg i just came back to this and read this, and realize what I said could be taken as extremely sexist lmao. not what I meant at all. | ||
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daz
Canada643 Posts
On April 20 2009 08:09 Jibba wrote: The argument for women's teams is that it's the entertainment industry, and women's teams draw higher ratings in comparison to skill level than a male team would, and I agree. It'd just be nice if it were billed that way, instead of for "equality." It would be interesting to see what would happen if a college had an official e-sports team. yeah i have no problem with that, it is what it is, it just bugs me when people try to pass it off as something noble or like they're following some kind of good cause, thats just BS | ||
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avilo
United States4100 Posts
If this team warranted much attention as a competitive team then people would already have heard of them, considering they're an all gaming team. But this, just like every other "female progaming team" is just what it is as usual. | ||
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errol1001
454 Posts
Pretty similar. Can safely say that all the non-koreans wouldn't even register on the scale if they were instead born as koreans (assuming no skill changes resulting from that). It is still frustrating to miss out on opportunities due to things out of your control. | ||
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Klockan3
Sweden2866 Posts
On April 23 2009 05:16 errol1001 wrote: Maybe for some starcraft perspective; female team vs male team - non-korean team vs korean team. Pretty similar. Can safely say that all the non-koreans wouldn't even register on the scale if they were instead born as koreans (assuming no skill changes resulting from that). It is still frustrating to miss out on opportunities due to things out of your control. So you mean the korean womens are as good at starcraft as other men? | ||
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errol1001
454 Posts
On April 23 2009 05:24 Klockan3 wrote: So you mean the korean womens are as good at starcraft as other men? Who knows. Certainly there's a general difference between men and women in starcraft, and between koreans and non-koreans, whether due to environment or due to population sizes or even due to genetics if that is truly the case. There's not so much evidence as to how korean women compare to non-korean men in SC. None of that was my point though. I wanted to point out the non-koreans in SC thing, as it may relate more to people reading this, and hence give people a bit of compassion for the female gamers. | ||
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