Craps - A Beginner's Guide - Page 2

On April 17 2009 07:14 micronesia wrote:
In a casino you never play craps against noobs... in case you were wondering. Even if noobs come to your table they don't affect your winnings XD

On April 17 2009 13:30 EsX_Raptor wrote:

you serious? then i might give this game a try

On April 17 2009 14:08 Durak wrote:
I've wanted to learn how to play Craps but I've been too lazy. Thanks a lot for the guide.

On April 19 2009 16:07 cgrinker wrote:
I see no one is jumping on my "Guys and Dolls" reference

On April 17 2009 07:14 heyoka wrote:
With any number of counting/tracking/sequencing/etc/etc techniques you can flip that I guess but the hours you would have to put in combined with the chance of actually pulling it off in the modern era, craps is still probably a better bet

On April 25 2009 06:06 Zato-1 wrote:

Your odds in craps are... crap. Compared to Blackjack, at least. You're even better off playing Roulette than you are playing playing craps.

On April 25 2009 06:39 micronesia wrote:
The house advantage in roulette is nearly 5% whereas pass line bets and odds bets combine to less than 1%.

On April 25 2009 23:10 KOFgokuon wrote:
hahaha
the problem with craps is that even with a 5 dollar pass or come bet, in order to reduce the house edge to something managable you have to put up $15, $20, $25 dollars on your odds bets and your money can go fast

On April 26 2009 12:37 GHOSTCLAW wrote:
Just for fun on the whole blackjack thing (yes, I'm coming into the discussion late).

If you play blackjack properly with no card counting, the advantage that the house gets is <1% (from my own memory, so that one with a grain of salt).

From wikipedia ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackjack ), you get these odds depending on the number of decks

Number of Decks House Advantage
Single deck 0.04%
Double deck 0.42%
Four decks 0.61%
Six decks 0.67%
Eight decks 0.70%

It's not cited on wikipedia, so I'm not entirely sure where they came up with those numbers. I'm guessing that those are strict probabilities following the best strategy with no card counting.

If you're actually planning on card counting, you can beat the house every single time. However, it's fairly easy for the casino's to spot if you're going to do it on your own.

The basic principle behind card counting is that the more high cards that are left in the "shoe", the better your odds are. so, for example and simplicity, the dealer starts out with a 6 deck shoe (for example) and doesn't shuffle at all. If many of the low cards are burned through the deck in the first 5 decks, and you know that the last 100 or 50 of the cards left in the shoe are all high cards, your chances of beating the house (having the house bust) are extremely high. To a first approximation, you could choose to count only the number of face cards that have passed, and then if your odds are good at the end of the shoe, start betting a ton of money. The problem is that the casino can look at the history of your betting, the history of the cards that have been played, and figure it out pretty easily.

On April 27 2009 15:09 lazymej wrote:


So what happens if they suspect you're counting cards. Do they take you to the back room and beat you up like in the movie 21?