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MamiyaOtaru
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1687 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-26 00:15:14
March 26 2009 00:14 GMT
#21
Worms

/edited for URL
ghermination
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States2851 Posts
March 26 2009 00:16 GMT
#22
I'm surprised no one has mentioned Tremulous! Its an open source stand alone mod for Quake 3. (Tremulous means "being in a state of shaking", shaking, quaking, get it? Yeah, i didn't either, at first) Anyway, its a combination fps-rts. While the game has been getting pretty low on population so far, its still very fun. Quake 3 is not required, and the system requirements are pretty low.
Download it at: http://www.tremulous.net
My ingame name on Tremulous is "Dr. Salvador" PM me if you decide to play and need any help.
U Gotta Skate.
Adeny
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway1233 Posts
March 26 2009 00:17 GMT
#23
Alot of you are missing the whole "ladder" thing which is a main selling point atleast for me. Some good suggestions I'll look into though! Still no game that I've seen and wanted to try immediately. Something like this Dungeon and Fighter thing the Koreans have would be sick I think. Is there any way to play it as a foreigner without a proxy (for lag reasons)? I guess everyone would just be able to talk korean anyway so it wouldn't be very fun.
dm47
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
82 Posts
March 26 2009 00:25 GMT
#24
I used to play a pretty sick game called Neverwinter Nights. I don't know how active the user-base is nowadays but I know back when i played they intertwined solo-play with multiplayer, and it was pretty ownage. Check it out if you want. Storyline was pretty beast too
I hate optimists.
liger13
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1060 Posts
March 26 2009 00:30 GMT
#25
WoW pvp has a ladder right?..
kekeke

umm...

Diablo 2?...
Dota? ... no ladder though... i don think...
I feel like pwning noobs
TryThis
Profile Joined February 2007
Canada1522 Posts
March 26 2009 00:34 GMT
#26
On March 26 2009 09:14 MamiyaOtaru wrote:
Worms

/edited for URL


Worms was AWESOME i used to play that so much

how is it no ones said TF2 yet?
Dwell
Adeny
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway1233 Posts
March 26 2009 00:39 GMT
#27
Ugh, WoW PvP ladder. Don't even mention it. Played it at a pretty high level, but 95% of the time the outcome of the match is decided when the gates open and you see the setup of your opposing team. The other 5% of the time someone pulls out a luck-win. This is because WoW is such a simple game that noone will make mistakes that cost games (exaggerated, but it's pretty damn close to the truth.)

Oh there's a ladder for DotA (garena, the iccup of dota), but I found the game to be pretty repetitive. Sure there's a fuckload of heroes you can play but it lacks in depth.

I'll look into kar rider, It'd be pretty cool if it's anything like Mario Kart (wii version had a ladder but the matchmaking was pretty broken, GAH I'm beeing too picky.)
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
March 26 2009 00:40 GMT
#28
Play America's Army. That game is so complex... as you play and play any given map, there's always something new to learn about the correct strategy in any given situation. For example, I play on the map Bridge Crossing exclusively, and I'm always learning new tricks of how to use the map to my advantage. Give it a try. It's got a fairly steep learning curve, though.
ModeratorGood content always wins.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
March 26 2009 00:41 GMT
#29
NetStorm. It's free to download etc. Definitely up there with if not SC, WC3 in difficulty. http://www.netstormhq.com/news.php Free download on the site.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Sonu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada577 Posts
March 26 2009 00:41 GMT
#30
question

y not starcraft?

just wondering..
"I really like this wall-in, because its not a fucking wall" - DAy[9]
Everywhere
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States97 Posts
March 26 2009 00:43 GMT
#31
quake and cs are easily the closest to sc in terms of competitiveness. cs is easy to get into and play competitively but quake has a much higher learning curve (1v1 ofc).
Adeny
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway1233 Posts
March 26 2009 00:53 GMT
#32
Why not starcraft? Because I'm not korean. I've tried starcraft marathons but I play a pretty layed back style so I always get myself into 1 hour macro fests and tire myself out in 3 games tops. Also, variety is good!
Igakusei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States610 Posts
March 26 2009 01:30 GMT
#33
Then you'd hate Total Annihilation/SupCom.

It's already been mentioned but if you haven't given it a shot, try your hand at Go. It's a blast, the community is a billion times nicer than the starcraft one. Tons of people that are willing to help, and very few unsocialized kids who feel that their "skillz" are the only thing that matters in life. You'll have no trouble at all finding experienced players who are willing to go over your games with you.

It's a little harder for most people to jump into than chess because it's so open ended (unlike chess where most of the time even a very new player can find a few moves that look good), but I think it's easier to get decent at, doesn't require a lot of memorization like chess does, and the community is just outstanding.

Yes, yes, joseki is memorization, but you can be pretty dang good and not know any joseki if you have solid fundamentals and know how to read.
Retsukage
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1002 Posts
March 26 2009 01:39 GMT
#34
www.Quakelive.com

DO IT NOW!!!

seriously you wont regret it, its the only game thats taken me away from sc
To change is to improve, to change often is to be perfect - Winston Chruchill
enthusiast
Profile Joined May 2008
United States90 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-26 01:41:05
March 26 2009 01:40 GMT
#35
I've been playing qlive the past few months. It's surprisingly similar to SC. Much more smarts are required than I would thought, although map knowledge plays a larger role at low level qlive than at low level SC. It requires the same kind of mental juggling as in SC, in that you need to keep tabs on mega time, armor times, and your enemy's position. It also requires similar judgment calls, in that you need to decide whether to go for the kill, wait at a spot for the kill, or go collect the items you have timed.

Qlive is also tremendously fun to watch in first-person view. It doesn't look nearly as impressive as SC does, but I still found myself shocked the first time I loaded up a demo. Of course Quake has frag videos, which I think most would say are >>>>> SC videos.

I wouldn't say at the low level it has a comparable learning curve to SC, but it is probably more frustrating at times.

Personally, I've decided to come back to SC because you can actually listen to music in SC without suffering too much for it. I'll save Quake for when I only have 10-30 minutes to play.
Psychobabas
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
2531 Posts
March 26 2009 01:48 GMT
#36
that is such a hard question...!

Counterstrike 1.6
Call of Duty 4
Warcraft 3
Battle for Middle Earth 2: Rise of Witch King 2.02patch (its on clanwars.cc)

Im out!
Adeny
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway1233 Posts
March 26 2009 02:00 GMT
#37
It's down right now so I can't check myself, but does quakelive have a ladder? I know it has an internal match making system but is there any way to know what it rates you at etc?
imperfect
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada1652 Posts
March 26 2009 02:05 GMT
#38
CS 1.6
WC3 / DotA
TrackMania to some extent.

tbh, there aren't many games as competitive as sc
blind bisu free and anytime fanboy.
Antifate
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States415 Posts
March 26 2009 02:14 GMT
#39
Soldat is pretty fun. Free 2-d side-scroller shooter.

The North American scene is kind of nub-sauce compared to the European scene though.
No one is taller than the last man standing.
Durak
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada3685 Posts
March 26 2009 02:16 GMT
#40
On March 26 2009 09:41 Shikyo wrote:
NetStorm. It's free to download etc. Definitely up there with if not SC, WC3 in difficulty. http://www.netstormhq.com/news.php Free download on the site.


You beat me to it! I was going to quote my blog about NetStorm.

NetStorm is the closest RTS I've found to Starcraft in terms of competitiveness. I've found that most Starcraft players take to the skill required to play NetStorm. There's a decent learning curve and the skill ceiling is as fast as you can be (like SC). There is a ladder but the player base isn't huge, or at least people tend to take extended breaks, so the ladder isn't nearly as large as iccup. Anyway, I'd highly suggest giving it a shot if you want another RTS.
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