• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 01:44
CEST 07:44
KST 14:44
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Classic Games #3: Rogue vs Serral at BlizzCon8[ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Ascent10Maestros of the Game: Week 1/Play-in Preview12[ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt2: Take-Off7[ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt1: Runway13
Community News
SC4ALL $6,000 Open LAN in Philadelphia5Weekly Cups (Sept 1-7): MaxPax rebounds & Clem saga continues23LiuLi Cup - September 2025 Tournaments3Weekly Cups (August 25-31): Clem's Last Straw?39Weekly Cups (Aug 18-24): herO dethrones MaxPax6
StarCraft 2
General
#1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy What happened to Singapore/Brazil servers? SC4ALL: A North American StarCraft LAN Classic Games #3: Rogue vs Serral at BlizzCon
Tourneys
SC4ALL $6,000 Open LAN in Philadelphia RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series LANified! 37: Groundswell, BYOC LAN, Nov 28-30 2025 LiuLi Cup - September 2025 Tournaments Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 490 Masters of Midnight Mutation # 489 Bannable Offense Mutation # 488 What Goes Around Mutation # 487 Think Fast
Brood War
General
ASL20 General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ alas... i aint gon' lie to u bruh... BW General Discussion [ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Ascent
Tourneys
[ASL20] Ro16 Group B Small VOD Thread 2.0 [ASL20] Ro16 Group A [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting
Other Games
General Games
Borderlands 3 Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread The PlayStation 5 General RTS Discussion Thread Iron Harvest: 1920+
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The Games Industry And ATVI UK Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The Happy Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread High temperatures on bridge(s)
TL Community
BarCraft in Tokyo Japan for ASL Season5 Final The Automated Ban List
Blogs
The Personality of a Spender…
TrAiDoS
A very expensive lesson on ma…
Garnet
hello world
radishsoup
Lemme tell you a thing o…
JoinTheRain
RTS Design in Hypercoven
a11
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1198 users

Reverting Back to the Basics (part 2) - Page 2

Blogs > Shiverfish
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 All
SerpentFlame
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
415 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-22 06:39:55
March 22 2009 06:26 GMT
#21
On March 22 2009 13:13 Shiverfish wrote:

One final note I wanted to leave on. What does it mean when my depiction of a perfect dream world would treat my own self as one of the subjects it must purge of its ranks?

"The human species, the sluggish Homo sapiens, will once again enter the stage of radical reconstruction and become in his own hands the object of the most complex methods of artificial selection and psychophysical training... Man will make it his goal...to create a higher sociobiological type, a superman, if you will" - Leon Trotsky, Literature and Revolution.

courtesy of wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Soviet_man).
See where Homo Sapiens Sovieticus went? (Hint: it didn't).

Also, instead of 'reviving' our society using purges (this historically does nothing to solve any problem), we could instead alleviate our economic problem by funding long-overdue infrastructure at the local and state levels to poorer regions (where crime is abundant not due to the inherency of the evils of people, but just because they're lifestyle is so shitty, and crime gives so much allure as a way out), in works such as building schools, parks, libraries, etc. Not only does this assist in economic revitalization (long term), but it also prevents the need to set up purging institutions, and a bazillion court tribunals to determine the fairness of the "purges".

Also, when they come for you (as a progenitor of this idea, they by default must come), you'd better accept it.
I Wannabe[WHITE], the very BeSt[HyO], like Yo Hwan EVER Oz.......
SerpentFlame
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
415 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-22 06:37:11
March 22 2009 06:27 GMT
#22
Double post, sorry.
I Wannabe[WHITE], the very BeSt[HyO], like Yo Hwan EVER Oz.......
Etherone
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1898 Posts
March 22 2009 07:34 GMT
#23
this blog is flawed in too many aspects.

stating " The average return of a randomly selected portfolio is the same as those managed by professional investors." is simply ignorant.

also there aren't enough humans with the stable moral grounding, work ethic and intelligence required to fit into the scenario you dream of.
let's hypothesize that 85% of humanity would have to be wiped out, and this would be a near impossibility considering that the remaining 15 % would have to be of enough moral standing that they would not tolerate standing by as 85% of the world died while they were left to live.

you would have to eliminate the 85% yourself without the knowledge of these 15%, and either stay alive as long as you could to ensure that their children are not morally corrupt, but that will only last so long, and you will perish, and the cycle will restart, or kill yourself and follow your own dream, and have a perfect world for the very brief amount of time it takes for another morally corrupt human to arise.

there is a huge difference between shiverfish's perfect world and Light's from death note mainly shiverfish wants to eliminate all morally corrupt individuals, and Light will settle for killing as many as needed for the remaining to change their ways.

( honestly i believe as low as .00001% would fit into what i percieved to be your scenario. )
Peter[Deuce]
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States93 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-22 17:08:38
March 22 2009 17:05 GMT
#24
On March 22 2009 15:22 Tensai176 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2009 14:31 Peter[Deuce] wrote:
Good blogs.
It reminds me of my history debate on whether America should have an agrarian society rather than the industrialized behemoth we are now.

With people as farmers, I think we'd have less people starving and stress about capital would be insignificant. We'll be healthier and stronger also because, obviously, eating healthier and doing farm work...

Then again what if America was too weak to stop Germany in World War I and II? What about our technological advances, ease of traveling, communications, amusements?

America didn't stop Germany in World War I.

America helped greatly to stop Germany in World War II.

It's not a one country war btw, hence, WORLD War. America had help.

Obviously it's a world war, hence the name World War.
Point is, the Allies(US is in it I know, referring to Britain/France(knocked out WWII)/Russia surrendered WWI -> Lead to pulling German troops out of Russia which would lead to Germany potentially winning the war) were losing the war both times anyway and needed America's help.
R3condite
Profile Joined August 2008
Korea (South)1541 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-22 21:09:59
March 22 2009 21:08 GMT
#25
On March 22 2009 14:08 cunninglinguists wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2009 13:55 yoshtodd wrote:
On March 22 2009 13:51 cunninglinguists wrote:
On March 22 2009 13:48 yoshtodd wrote:
Can admins please ban this faggot?

? for what?


For using TL as his livejournal, to rant about murdering people who are obsolete to society.

sure his blogs could find a better forum elsewhere (lol @ him posting this at a starcraft site) but that's not enough reason to call for his banning, and then claim he is a 'faggot'. plus livejournal is a blogging site, so there's nothing wrong with using tl's 'blog' section as if it were livejournal.

agreed no1 asked u to read it
On March 22 2009 14:31 Peter[Deuce] wrote:
Good blogs.
It reminds me of my history debate on whether America should have an agrarian society rather than the industrialized behemoth we are now.

With people as farmers, I think we'd have less people starving and stress about capital would be insignificant. We'll be healthier and stronger also because, obviously, eating healthier and doing farm work...

Then again what if America was too weak to stop Germany in World War I and II? What about our technological advances, ease of traveling, communications, amusements?

r u CRAZY?! we wouldn't have starcraft then!!! dude... think it through a lil more

oh that and we have more than enough food that we export surplus and we actually rot a big batch to keep the price at a lvl where farmers could live off of

other than that this blog entry is fail... in that it poses questions only the author could answer in his self-defined world of self-perfection, from which he must be purged to make it perfect? iono man i say stop taking w/e it is u r taking or start taking w.e it is u rn't taking

that and u noe perfection in such a wide sense is pretty friggin relative... relative...just in case u don't get it, RELATIVE
ggyo...
chobopeon
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States7342 Posts
March 24 2009 00:04 GMT
#26
On March 22 2009 15:22 Tensai176 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2009 14:31 Peter[Deuce] wrote:
Good blogs.
It reminds me of my history debate on whether America should have an agrarian society rather than the industrialized behemoth we are now.

With people as farmers, I think we'd have less people starving and stress about capital would be insignificant. We'll be healthier and stronger also because, obviously, eating healthier and doing farm work...

Then again what if America was too weak to stop Germany in World War I and II? What about our technological advances, ease of traveling, communications, amusements?

America didn't stop Germany in World War I.

America helped greatly to stop Germany in World War II.

It's not a one country war btw, hence, WORLD War. America had help.


Not to derail the thread (or maybe I want to ) but American industry contributed enormously to WW2's outcome. You're not really saying otherwise, I just thought it was worth a post. Even before we officially entered the war, it was true and certainly throughout our involvement. No one will or should begrudge English/French/Russian contributions, but the Western front was ENORMOUSLY impacted by American industry - which, afaik, is what Peter[deuce] was talking about.

Just sayin!
:O
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
March 24 2009 02:41 GMT
#27
On March 22 2009 15:18 L wrote:
This looks like a job for... me.

+ Show Spoiler +
posting on liquid sites in current year
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21243 Posts
March 24 2009 02:50 GMT
#28
Didn't we go through this before in your previous blogs?
TranslatorBaa!
Prev 1 2 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 4h 16m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nina 181
ProTech72
StarCraft: Brood War
Leta 203
sSak 102
Noble 73
Shine 55
Bale 23
Icarus 12
ToSsGirL 2
League of Legends
JimRising 730
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K805
m0e_tv569
Coldzera 192
Other Games
summit1g9490
XaKoH 298
hungrybox268
C9.Mang0158
NeuroSwarm48
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1233
BasetradeTV49
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Sammyuel 21
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• iopq 0
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Rush1554
• Lourlo1039
• Stunt479
• HappyZerGling74
Upcoming Events
RSL Revival
4h 16m
Classic vs TriGGeR
ByuN vs Maru
Online Event
6h 16m
Kung Fu Cup
6h 16m
BSL Team Wars
13h 16m
RSL Revival
1d 4h
Maestros of the Game
1d 8h
ShoWTimE vs Classic
Clem vs herO
Serral vs Bunny
Reynor vs Zoun
Cosmonarchy
1d 10h
Bonyth vs Dewalt
[BSL 2025] Weekly
1d 12h
RSL Revival
2 days
Maestros of the Game
2 days
[ Show More ]
BSL Team Wars
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Snow vs Sharp
Jaedong vs Mini
Wardi Open
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
Light vs Speed
Larva vs Soma
LiuLi Cup
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Copa Latinoamericana 4
SEL Season 2 Championship
HCC Europe

Ongoing

BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
LASL Season 20
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
Chzzk MurlocKing SC1 vs SC2 Cup #2
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1

Upcoming

2025 Chongqing Offline CUP
BSL Polish World Championship 2025
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
EC S1
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.