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Continued from my previous entry: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=89870
Employing overly complicated and “unnatural” mechanisms in our society leads to many problems. One glaring current example is the economic crisis facing the world. In theory, the total economic output of our world should only be based on a limited number of factors. This would be availability of natural resources, weather, and perhaps external energy reception ie. sunlight. On the most basic level, a community feeds on agricultural produce of plant and livestock, and enjoys the material goods of products processed from raw materials such as lumber, metal, and oil. As long as the availability of these resources is unchanged, the livelihood and quality of living of said community should be consistent. Adding another layer of uncertainty, the human factor, changes things only slightly. Economic output may be affected by the work ethic and attitudes of these workers. Still, there should only be minor fluctuations in output.
In this way I find the whole idea of an “economic crisis” a strained, avoidable phenomena of overcomplication. The additional unbalancing factor is perhaps ignorance and improper use of fabricated assumptions. Financial markets themselves I find almost a joke. One aspect I hate the most is the common belief that investors can actually wield “skill” and “knowledge” in order to play the stock market to their advantage. It has always been so intuitively obvious to me that the market reactions and behaviours in setting prices of a company stock is ridiculously arbitrary and artificial. It is based merely on the expected future returns this property may provide. An investor employing a strategy with sound, intelligent reasoning is playing against millions of others with the same sense of self-superiority. Even worse, a random picker can easily come to the exact same conclusions and have equal chances of success. Even if you were a time traveller who was always right, once the market realized your advantage, they would eventually follow the same decisions by the cheater and nullify their advantage. The average return of a randomly selected portfolio is the same as those managed by professional investors.
So much of the world’s human capital is wasted on such endeavours. Legal and technical procedures enforced by the government and the senseless analysis used in the financial sector are just two examples that seem to consume so much of the work force these days. It becomes apparent that in a perfect world, a community’s net output of goods and services and would be better off if these workers worked in farms and factories instead. They would have a real contribution instead of the artificial value they seem to create.
Reverting back to the basics. People are nowadays detached from the basics of survival. People interact in a community for mutual benefit and those who are destructive must be inhibited. In most modern societies, the way we deal with these problem individuals (and sometimes groups) is imprisonment. We lock these vandals away in jails so that they cannot interfere with the smooth running of society. In more primitive times, punishment by death was acceptable. Two cave men settling a dispute may have a death match fight. The one with the bigger club, who swung harder, would be victorious and get their say. In the end, the easiest way to overcome a challenge is to eliminate your adversary.
A quick aside. The stupid Joker quote from the Dark Knight movie, “Why so serious.” Damn I hate the overuse and admiration for that quote. My response would be, shoot the Joker in the face, and, “Why so dead?”
Today we must not forget we are not very far removed from those times. Instead of clubs, primitive “uncivilized” disputes involve knives, guns and chemicals. The world does not seem particularly stable – if the global powers are provoked against one another, a nuclear war could easily wipe out the majority if not all life on the planet.
So how do we prevent this catastrophe (to most people) from occurring? It is not through the administration of global laws, treaties, and regulations. Eventually one entity would not be able to tolerate and launch the end war. Atomic weapons are perhaps the ultimate form of power, but as it is available to more than one party, leads to mutually assured destruction for all.
The solution is then for the community to be raised with the proper moral strength and integrity to avoid this threat and live in stability and peace. The very basic principles that give rise to the extraneous defined laws we have put in place. Cases with questionable criminal responsibility only need a reliable judge to decide the fate of the subject. The technical processes to ensure fair treatment and thorough investigation are not necessary if the judge is well enough qualified.
The next issue would be how to deal with sentenced convicts. There is no point in rehabilitating a vandal. This community requires people with a truly pure heart, with compassion and strength to do the right thing. I have faith that there are truly a numerous consortium of people on this planet who can fulfill that requirement. People with an impaired sense of moral integrity can not be tolerated and should be removed from the community. Options may include death, slavery, banishment, food source, or other less severe choices that I would probably not endorse.
One final note I wanted to leave on. What does it mean when my depiction of a perfect dream world would treat my own self as one of the subjects it must purge of its ranks?
 
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plz revert back to a time you didn't post blogs here
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You're a fucking fascist.
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On March 22 2009 13:13 Shiverfish wrote:
One final note I wanted to leave on. What does it mean when my depiction of a perfect dream world would treat my own self as one of the subjects it must purge of its ranks?
the same thing it means when we understand that democracy, through majority vote, can vote to establish a tyranny.
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i can't tell if this is just a troll, but humanity is not a machine to be perfected.
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Can admins please ban this faggot?
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totally great idea. great thread bang up job A PLUS!!!
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On March 22 2009 13:48 yoshtodd wrote:
Can admins please ban this faggot?
? for what?
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Good read, I'll have to give it some thought before I reply to the content of your post 
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On March 22 2009 13:51 cunninglinguists wrote:? for what?
For using TL as his livejournal, to rant about murdering people who are obsolete to society.
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On March 22 2009 13:55 yoshtodd wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2009 13:51 cunninglinguists wrote:On March 22 2009 13:48 yoshtodd wrote:
Can admins please ban this faggot? ? for what? For using TL as his livejournal, to rant about murdering people who are obsolete to society.
sure his blogs could find a better forum elsewhere (lol @ him posting this at a starcraft site) but that's not enough reason to call for his banning, and then claim he is a 'faggot'. plus livejournal is a blogging site, so there's nothing wrong with using tl's 'blog' section as if it were livejournal.
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That Death Note image was too fucking appropriate rofl
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Good blogs.
It reminds me of my history debate on whether America should have an agrarian society rather than the industrialized behemoth we are now.
With people as farmers, I think we'd have less people starving and stress about capital would be insignificant. We'll be healthier and stronger also because, obviously, eating healthier and doing farm work...
Then again what if America was too weak to stop Germany in World War I and II? What about our technological advances, ease of traveling, communications, amusements?
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Until usury is outlawed instead of institutionalized, we will continue to have these problems. It doesn't matter how many revolutions there are if that is not changed. And yes, that will never happen until the public's morals change.
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On March 22 2009 14:08 cunninglinguists wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2009 13:55 yoshtodd wrote:On March 22 2009 13:51 cunninglinguists wrote:On March 22 2009 13:48 yoshtodd wrote:
Can admins please ban this faggot? ? for what? For using TL as his livejournal, to rant about murdering people who are obsolete to society. sure his blogs could find a better forum elsewhere (lol @ him posting this at a starcraft site) but that's not enough reason to call for his banning, and then claim he is a 'faggot'. plus livejournal is a blogging site, so there's nothing wrong with using tl's 'blog' section as if it were livejournal.
People have been banned for making enough "bad" posts. 100% of Shiverfish's posts are these blogs that have drawn lots of ire not just mine. The reason I dislike him so much is the combination of his unbelievably pompous style of writing paired with meaningless and vaguely offensive content of it. But whatever, I know people are going to say "if it bothers you ignore it" so that's what I'll do.
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Good story, too idealistic. I suggest you learn more psychology before declaring your ideals. You cannot have perfect people in a perfect world, because humans are inherently flawed and have much more depth than you give them credit for.
You may believe yourself to be some superior being, but honestly, everyone believes themselves to be superior to others. Posting these self-centered blogs without giving thought to why the rest of the world is the way it is, why people live their lives the way they do, without understanding them is just showing that you're blind.
Either a troll, or an idiot.
Remember, only in darkness does light shine. Without one, you cannot have other.
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This looks like a job for... me.
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On March 22 2009 14:31 Peter[Deuce] wrote:
Good blogs.
It reminds me of my history debate on whether America should have an agrarian society rather than the industrialized behemoth we are now.
With people as farmers, I think we'd have less people starving and stress about capital would be insignificant. We'll be healthier and stronger also because, obviously, eating healthier and doing farm work...
Then again what if America was too weak to stop Germany in World War I and II? What about our technological advances, ease of traveling, communications, amusements?
America didn't stop Germany in World War I.
America helped greatly to stop Germany in World War II.
It's not a one country war btw, hence, WORLD War. America had help.
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On March 22 2009 13:13 Shiverfish wrote:
One final note I wanted to leave on. What does it mean when my depiction of a perfect dream world would treat my own self as one of the subjects it must purge of its ranks?
"The human species, the sluggish Homo sapiens, will once again enter the stage of radical reconstruction and become in his own hands the object of the most complex methods of artificial selection and psychophysical training... Man will make it his goal...to create a higher sociobiological type, a superman, if you will" - Leon Trotsky, Literature and Revolution.
courtesy of wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Soviet_man).
See where Homo Sapiens Sovieticus went? (Hint: it didn't).
Also, instead of 'reviving' our society using purges (this historically does nothing to solve any problem), we could instead alleviate our economic problem by funding long-overdue infrastructure at the local and state levels to poorer regions (where crime is abundant not due to the inherency of the evils of people, but just because they're lifestyle is so shitty, and crime gives so much allure as a way out), in works such as building schools, parks, libraries, etc. Not only does this assist in economic revitalization (long term), but it also prevents the need to set up purging institutions, and a bazillion court tribunals to determine the fairness of the "purges".
Also, when they come for you (as a progenitor of this idea, they by default must come), you'd better accept it.
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this blog is flawed in too many aspects.
stating " The average return of a randomly selected portfolio is the same as those managed by professional investors." is simply ignorant.
also there aren't enough humans with the stable moral grounding, work ethic and intelligence required to fit into the scenario you dream of.
let's hypothesize that 85% of humanity would have to be wiped out, and this would be a near impossibility considering that the remaining 15 % would have to be of enough moral standing that they would not tolerate standing by as 85% of the world died while they were left to live.
you would have to eliminate the 85% yourself without the knowledge of these 15%, and either stay alive as long as you could to ensure that their children are not morally corrupt, but that will only last so long, and you will perish, and the cycle will restart, or kill yourself and follow your own dream, and have a perfect world for the very brief amount of time it takes for another morally corrupt human to arise.
there is a huge difference between shiverfish's perfect world and Light's from death note mainly shiverfish wants to eliminate all morally corrupt individuals, and Light will settle for killing as many as needed for the remaining to change their ways.
( honestly i believe as low as .00001% would fit into what i percieved to be your scenario. )
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On March 22 2009 15:22 Tensai176 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2009 14:31 Peter[Deuce] wrote:
Good blogs.
It reminds me of my history debate on whether America should have an agrarian society rather than the industrialized behemoth we are now.
With people as farmers, I think we'd have less people starving and stress about capital would be insignificant. We'll be healthier and stronger also because, obviously, eating healthier and doing farm work...
Then again what if America was too weak to stop Germany in World War I and II? What about our technological advances, ease of traveling, communications, amusements? America didn't stop Germany in World War I. America helped greatly to stop Germany in World War II. It's not a one country war btw, hence, WORLD War. America had help.
Obviously it's a world war, hence the name World War.
Point is, the Allies(US is in it I know, referring to Britain/France(knocked out WWII)/Russia surrendered WWI -> Lead to pulling German troops out of Russia which would lead to Germany potentially winning the war) were losing the war both times anyway and needed America's help.
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On March 22 2009 14:08 cunninglinguists wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2009 13:55 yoshtodd wrote:On March 22 2009 13:51 cunninglinguists wrote:On March 22 2009 13:48 yoshtodd wrote:
Can admins please ban this faggot? ? for what? For using TL as his livejournal, to rant about murdering people who are obsolete to society. sure his blogs could find a better forum elsewhere (lol @ him posting this at a starcraft site) but that's not enough reason to call for his banning, and then claim he is a 'faggot'. plus livejournal is a blogging site, so there's nothing wrong with using tl's 'blog' section as if it were livejournal.
agreed no1 asked u to read it
On March 22 2009 14:31 Peter[Deuce] wrote:
Good blogs.
It reminds me of my history debate on whether America should have an agrarian society rather than the industrialized behemoth we are now.
With people as farmers, I think we'd have less people starving and stress about capital would be insignificant. We'll be healthier and stronger also because, obviously, eating healthier and doing farm work...
Then again what if America was too weak to stop Germany in World War I and II? What about our technological advances, ease of traveling, communications, amusements?
r u CRAZY?! we wouldn't have starcraft then!!! dude... think it through a lil more
oh that and we have more than enough food that we export surplus and we actually rot a big batch to keep the price at a lvl where farmers could live off of
other than that this blog entry is fail... in that it poses questions only the author could answer in his self-defined world of self-perfection, from which he must be purged to make it perfect? iono man i say stop taking w/e it is u r taking or start taking w.e it is u rn't taking
that and u noe perfection in such a wide sense is pretty friggin relative... relative...just in case u don't get it, RELATIVE
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On March 22 2009 15:22 Tensai176 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2009 14:31 Peter[Deuce] wrote:
Good blogs.
It reminds me of my history debate on whether America should have an agrarian society rather than the industrialized behemoth we are now.
With people as farmers, I think we'd have less people starving and stress about capital would be insignificant. We'll be healthier and stronger also because, obviously, eating healthier and doing farm work...
Then again what if America was too weak to stop Germany in World War I and II? What about our technological advances, ease of traveling, communications, amusements? America didn't stop Germany in World War I. America helped greatly to stop Germany in World War II. It's not a one country war btw, hence, WORLD War. America had help.
Not to derail the thread (or maybe I want to ) but American industry contributed enormously to WW2's outcome. You're not really saying otherwise, I just thought it was worth a post. Even before we officially entered the war, it was true and certainly throughout our involvement. No one will or should begrudge English/French/Russian contributions, but the Western front was ENORMOUSLY impacted by American industry - which, afaik, is what Peter[deuce] was talking about.
Just sayin!
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On March 22 2009 15:18 L wrote:
This looks like a job for... me.
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Didn't we go through this before in your previous blogs?
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