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I checked if there was a blog on this topic, and I couldn't find one, so here it goes.
Basically I am sick of hearing about Starcraft 2. I really am not looking forward to when it comes out. Firstly, I really just dislike the graphics and game-style in general from what I have seen, it just looks so much like Warcraft 3, all of the units are so clunky and look alike, and the game-play looks so slow compared to Brood War. Not to mention some of the unit changes I am not too fond of.
Secondly, and mainly, I am not looking forward to what SC2 will do to Brood War. I really wouldn't mind the game if it is separate from Brood War,in fact I would probably even check it out when it does come out. However seeing things like mym dropping brood war and so many people talking about sc2 just makes me go "ugh". I really hope that it doesn't affect the foreigner Brood War scene (or the Korean scene for that matter) too much, because I just love SC1 too much.
Anyway, I am curious to see who is planning to stick with Brood war or switch over to SC2 once it comes out.
Poll: When SC2 comes out, will you stick with Brood War or switch over? (Vote): I will be playing SC2 for sure (Vote): I am sticking with Brood War, ty (Vote): I will try out SC2, and will make my decision from there
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I have enjoyed every Blizzard RTS to date and there's no doubt in my mind Starcraft 2 will trump them all.
+ Show Spoiler +The gameplay is not slow compared to brood war. ><
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How I'm the only person who voted for the last option thus far is beyond me, it's the only sensible one.
~My overall outlook on the game at this point is pretty negative though.
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idk~ Blizzard's RTS have always been top of the line however SC2 is becoming more and more like WC3 Less importance on macro more on micro.. -.-
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I am looking forward to Diablo 3.
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I agree with you on many points and I hope that a lot of things in SC2 will be changed/fixed by the time it comes out.
Personally, I'm gonna have to see how things turn out and my situation before I buy SC2. I might be disinterested in games by the time it comes out or I might need to save my money for other things. However, I really do want to try it at least least a couple times with friends.
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United States3705 Posts
I'm gonna wait for my friend to buy it and then try it out at his house before spending any money.
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Russian Federation386 Posts
I will try SC2 and will probably play both. SC2 not competitively.
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im sticking with BW but I will still get sc2 and play once in a while prolly. edit : And I 2nd what testie said.. im also lookin forward to d3 more.
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It's not good to judge whether you like the game until you have the familiarity that comes from playing it for a few months. If you don't like the graphics, then look at other RTS's that you've never played and see how little you can tell what's going on. If you think the gameplay is slow, then look at BW replays of horrible newbies, cuz that's the only skill level that you've seen SC2 played at. If after the game has been released for a year and the graphics still annoy you and the pros are producing boring games, then you'll have a point.
If you're interested in e-sports, and being at tl.net ought to mean you are, then you should be excited for SC2. Its e-sports scene will be much better than that of BW. It'll be like BW e-sports scene + WC3 e-sports scene + much more.
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nony is right. You can't really judge the game as being slow. You see it as slow because 1) your watching newbs and 2) you dont fully understand the game yet, therefore your mind can't comprehend what is really going on. When i first played starcraft, i didnt see it as the fast pace game that i see it as now.
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all my friends and I have decided the day sc2 is released,
we wait 1 week for all the PC Bangs in toronto to get it, and we gogogogo
i'm not expecting much though.. x_x
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I know what you mean, the game looks much slower since the graphics are actually.. nice. But who really cares about graphics. Gameplay over graphics.
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I'm looking forward to the UMS of SC2 at least. You just know there will be a BW clone, among other things. The game itself will probably be pretty good too, worth the $60 at least.
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Unless I can run SC2 with my current computer, I'm not investing money in a new rig.
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-vanilla SC2 -UMS+map editor -Campaign
There is no way all three are going to suck, and each one on its own will be worth the money SC2 costs .
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try, if it is no good, NO.
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The biggest reason I'm looking forward to sc2 is that it while the sc scene has always been fighting death since I got involved in it. The sc2 scene will be fresh and there will be actual interest in it besides the small pocket that still follows sc.
As for the game itself, I hope it's good, and although I don't particularly like the way it looks from the current videos I'm optimistic the final product will be able to live up to it's successor.
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disappointment in starcraft 2 is inevitable. People wont be satisfied unless it cures at lease two types of cancer.
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United States40777 Posts
On February 01 2009 12:30 DownMaxX wrote: The gameplay is not slow compared to brood war. ><
Yes, it is. Yes, I've actually played it.
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Will SC2 detract from BW's popularity? Of course. Will it be the same calibur of game? Probably not.
But I'm willing to give it a chance- a REAL chance. I'll certianly buy the game a play a lot of it before I write it off.
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Im not looking forward to it either.
2 words:
Mother Ship
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On February 01 2009 13:19 Kwark wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2009 12:30 DownMaxX wrote: The gameplay is not slow compared to brood war. >< Yes, it is. Yes, I've actually played it. H.O.T-Forever played Brood War, and it was slow as fuck.
Brood War is not slow.
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Yes ums for SC2 is gonna rock. Skeptical about competitive gameplay though;o
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On February 01 2009 13:35 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2009 13:19 Kwark wrote:On February 01 2009 12:30 DownMaxX wrote: The gameplay is not slow compared to brood war. >< Yes, it is. Yes, I've actually played it. H.O.T-Forever played Brood War, and it was slow as fuck. Brood War is not slow. he wasn't implying brood war is slow, he was saying SC2 is slow
"the gameplay is not slow compared to brood war" Yes [sc2] is slow compared to broodwar i've actually played [ the beta version].
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On February 01 2009 12:32 armed_ wrote: How I'm the only person who voted for the last option thus far is beyond me, it's the only sensible one.
~My overall outlook on the game at this point is pretty negative though.
The only sensible thing is to wait and try the game to see how good it really is. Otherwise it's like a kid who judges food only by how it looks, instead of how it tastes.
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United States47024 Posts
On February 01 2009 13:39 HeavOnEarth wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2009 13:35 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On February 01 2009 13:19 Kwark wrote:On February 01 2009 12:30 DownMaxX wrote: The gameplay is not slow compared to brood war. >< Yes, it is. Yes, I've actually played it. H.O.T-Forever played Brood War, and it was slow as fuck. Brood War is not slow. he wasn't implying brood war is slow, he was saying SC2 is slow "the gameplay is not slow compared to brood war" Yes [sc2] is slow compared to broodwar i've actually played [ the beta version]. You completely missed the point.
Saying its slow has absolutely no meaning right now. Strong players from other games played Starcraft/Brood War when it was still in its beta stages as well. Watching games from that era, the gameplay is slow. Obviously, modern Brood War is not slow.
Even for players that have experience with other games, it takes time to build up the familiarity and aptitude necessary to play at a good pace.
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This is why I like Nony.. he isnt another one of the "OMG my 10 years of training down the toilet, I cant learn a new game now!!"
SC2 will be a bigger pro scene than BW.. anyone who thinks SC2 sucks, is just afraid of having to relearn all their builds. The game is looking amazing so far, regardless of "lesser skill" which is a retarded argument all in itself.
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I guess I'm going to try SC2 out but I don't know if I'll actually play it, not sure I like what I've seen so far and things like automine, MBS and unlimited unit selection could make it pretty lame -_-
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I played and enjoyed WC3 for a long time before I started loathing it, and that's the least I expect of SC2. If SC2 doesn't live up to my expectations, I just do as I did with WC3, uninstall it and go back to Broodwar.
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im more excited for d3 than sc2..
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im just hoping it runs on my computer at a decent speed then i can decide to stick with Broodwar... which one to stick with
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I agree SC2 is not gonna live up to its hype
I hate the auto macro mining thing and secondly, I also don't appreciate what it will do to the current broodwar pro scene
Just because something is newer does not always mean its better. People need to realize sometimes old games > new games.
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Honestally Starcraft 2 has just been such a long wait for me, the disappointment is already here.
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Never looking back once SC2 comes out....unless it is to take a walk down memory lane. Good bye 12 unit max and retarded goons!
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On February 01 2009 13:19 Kwark wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2009 12:30 DownMaxX wrote: The gameplay is not slow compared to brood war. >< Yes, it is. Yes, I've actually played it.
I have too, a lot (+100 games) and I think it's not very much slower, a small bit maybe, but not very much more. Just do something about automine damnit
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I think savior actually said in an interview about it that the game's pace seemed a bit faster than BW.
In any case, I'm not very excited about it either.
However, whatever game I stick with will depend on the Korean pro scene. The existence and success of that is what's keeping me playing BW. If they do a full switch, unless SC2 is horrible, I will probably play SC2 a lot more than BW.
But yeah...I'm very afraid of how SC2 will end up. The only thing I hope for is that it is as mechanically oriented as BW, and that its macro/micro balance is similar to BW as well. Aside from that, as long as the game itself is balanced, I don't mind so much.
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On February 01 2009 12:33 MYM.Testie wrote: I am looking forward to Diablo 3.
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Bosnia-Herzegovina1437 Posts
I personal think its for 7-13 year old gamer kids because of the mother ship and graphics. Throw one AMAZING unit (Mothership(sarcasim)) and you have so many 12 year old its not funny. Graphics are taking over game play, witch REALLY sucks. Does anyone else think this is somewhat like CnC? Well, thats because 95% of the original people are gone and the CnC LEAD DESIGNER got the job.
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I will definitely be playing it, it is after all the sequel to BW, and given the amount of work blizzard is putting into this I suppose it's worth it. But indeed, things like lings autosurrounding, workers autosplitting (i think I read about this somewhere) will definitely make the game less fun.
And speaking of sc2 UMS, I get the feeling that there will be a SC2 version of dota. And then people will get sc2 only to play dota, just like what happened with wc3. Man, I'd hate it if that happened.
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For those of you who are deciding to stick to brood war...
Remember those quake 1 players? Quake one's learning curve was similar to broodwar's, its speed was the fastest of any game, in any genre I've ever seen. If you think getting owned over and over again in SC is bad, expect a score of, literally 158:-7, in a 10 minute game.
Those quake 1 players who decided to stick to Quake 1, even though quake 3 was out, with the cpma mod, which sped up the gameplay, but still not as fast as q1, STILL play quake 1. Seriously, the quake one scene in Australia is quite large considering the learning curve and age of the game (10 - 20 ACTIVE players :S).
Do you want to be the same? Watching the years go by, while your community slowly breaks down, and it takes 30 min just to get a single game?
P.S. I'm not going to compare quake 1 to quake 2, because it would contradict everything I said =0
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On February 01 2009 13:52 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2009 13:39 HeavOnEarth wrote:On February 01 2009 13:35 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On February 01 2009 13:19 Kwark wrote:On February 01 2009 12:30 DownMaxX wrote: The gameplay is not slow compared to brood war. >< Yes, it is. Yes, I've actually played it. H.O.T-Forever played Brood War, and it was slow as fuck. Brood War is not slow. he wasn't implying brood war is slow, he was saying SC2 is slow "the gameplay is not slow compared to brood war" Yes [sc2] is slow compared to broodwar i've actually played [ the beta version]. You completely missed the point. Saying its slow has absolutely no meaning right now. Strong players from other games played Starcraft/Brood War when it was still in its beta stages as well. Watching games from that era, the gameplay is slow. Obviously, modern Brood War is not slow. Even for players that have experience with other games, it takes time to build up the familiarity and aptitude necessary to play at a good pace.
if you quoted me ; I was merely just clarifying a post to another person. I honestly have no opinion on SC2; until after i give it a try.
if you quoted kwark ; meh ;obviously i wasn't a progamer back in 1998-2001 ETC, but i HIGHLY doubt they were "slow". so watching games from that era, the gameplay probably wasn't particulary slow, and what he said actually has some meaning =/
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On February 01 2009 13:14 AdemTheDestroyer wrote: disappointment in starcraft 2 is inevitable. People wont be satisfied unless it cures at lease two types of cancer. I've been playing starcraft for ten years. Sc2 better cure three.
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is awesome32246 Posts
I'm really interested to see how the game evolves. Coming to TL.net and checking out new strats people come up with.
I wish i started playing SC back when it came out, when i started replays got released so i missed the whole "studying your games" coming up with new strats etc, which is what I like the most i think.
I love playing making stuff up while I do, trying out new stuff so i think that will be the thing im looking up to do. : ]
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I have hated every single blizzard game except for Brood War. Blizzard in general simply don't make games that appeal to me and thus I don't really have any hopes for sc2. When sc2 kills bw (not if, when ) I'll probably pick up whichever TBS is biggest at the moment, or maybe age4.
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if u stick with bw when u can at least TRY sc2, then it's like keeping dial up when u have the choice of upgrading to broadband(wireless only though)
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The problem with SC2 is that they have leaders and designers from other games, suchs as company of heroes (awesome game but SLOOOOW) and C&C series. And the main thing they do wrong is to try make SC2 UNIQUE they cant, never! Realize that BW was made of luck, The bad pathfinding was not intended, the stacking, the non mbs all of the skills needed in bw is just adoptation to flaws that has become a succes. Just fucking make SC2 as i should be not Spacecraft... I bet when scII comes, we will have heroes, creeps and buildings/suppresion teams, upkeep and movable terrain also victory points...
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Its going to be an AWESOME game, its Blizzard for christ's sake.
But I will 100% not play multiplayer, as I won't have enough time on my hands as either a) I will suck at it because of no planned time investment b) I will not suck at it, meaning Blizzard FAILED in making an exceptional competitive game.
Right now its more like decision between Poker and BW for me, rather than between bw and purchasing SC2
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