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damn you protoss

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Aus)MaCrO
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia349 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-30 06:22:53
December 11 2008 12:22 GMT
#1


***
Spenguin
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia3316 Posts
December 11 2008 12:24 GMT
#2
Go play Warcraft.
< TeamLiquid CJ Entusman #46 > I came for the Brood War, I stayed for the people.
Aus)MaCrO
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia349 Posts
December 11 2008 12:27 GMT
#3
On December 11 2008 21:24 Spenguin wrote:
Go play Warcraft.


Nah
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
December 11 2008 12:30 GMT
#4
Protoss are pissing me off more than ever this ICCUP season. I have become pretty pissed off at times, raging out at players, telling them to play a real race, putting 1A2A3A and IMBA PROTOSS in caps before leaving in a huff.

;;
Come on....
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Aus)MaCrO
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia349 Posts
December 11 2008 12:32 GMT
#5
On December 11 2008 21:30 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
Protoss are pissing me off more than ever this ICCUP season. I have become pretty pissed off at times, raging out at players, telling them to play a real race, putting 1A2A3A and IMBA PROTOSS in caps before leaving in a huff.

;;
Come on....


Lol we have all mouthed off at Protoss before. Don't act like you are above it.
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
December 11 2008 12:37 GMT
#6
maybe plexa plays protoss xD

I know I do...Which is why I don't rage at them.

For auir!
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b3tty
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Canada216 Posts
December 11 2008 12:37 GMT
#7
watch progamer vod's?
JMave
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Singapore1803 Posts
December 11 2008 12:38 GMT
#8
To be honest I think walling in saves T alot of times.

But yeah storms seem to be so imbalanced. 4 templars just wipe out all my tanks :o
火心 Jealous. I always loved that feeling when I was young. Embrace it.
Aus)MaCrO
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia349 Posts
December 11 2008 12:41 GMT
#9
On December 11 2008 21:37 b3tty wrote:
watch progamer vod's?


i do watch progamers vods, but as I said, at a higher level, any imbalance Protoss may have (and it may well be none) would be negated by the skill of the players themselves. For someone like me who is comparatively speaking just starting out, it is a different ball game.
JMave
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Singapore1803 Posts
December 11 2008 12:41 GMT
#10
On December 11 2008 21:37 GHOSTCLAW wrote:
maybe plexa plays protoss xD

I know I do...Which is why I don't rage at them.

For auir!



ITS AIUR YOU BOZO!!!!!!
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thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
December 11 2008 12:41 GMT
#11
you of the sunk spore lurk kind should not whine!
Aus)MaCrO
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia349 Posts
December 11 2008 12:45 GMT
#12
On December 11 2008 21:41 thedeadhaji wrote:
you of the sunk spore lurk kind should not whine!


lol what is wrong with sunk, spore, lurk ? we need them ^^
SpriteLove
Profile Joined September 2008
United States226 Posts
December 11 2008 12:47 GMT
#13
wait... your a zerg player complaining about protoss?

at lower levels pvz is insanely hard to play compared to zvp
mG.SpriteLove
Viledica
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada361 Posts
December 11 2008 12:48 GMT
#14
On December 11 2008 21:41 jpunshon wrote:
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On December 11 2008 21:37 b3tty wrote:
watch progamer vod's?


i do watch progamers vods, but as I said, at a higher level, any imbalance Protoss may have (and it may well be none) would be negated by the skill of the players themselves. For someone like me who is comparatively speaking just starting out, it is a different ball game.


So you want to watch pro gamers get destroyed by the same build that owns you rather than watch them overcome it? Come on, man. Watch the VODs, even if the players are quite obviously better; the end result is the same. How they play vs that build is what you're aiming for.
stenole
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Norway868 Posts
December 11 2008 12:49 GMT
#15
You picked the hardest race. Live with your mistake.
Epicfailguy
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Norway893 Posts
December 11 2008 12:51 GMT
#16
On December 11 2008 21:47 SpriteLove wrote:
wait... your a zerg player complaining about protoss?

at lower levels pvz is insanely hard to play compared to zvp

At least in the early game.

Im pretty sure the op would've been owned just as hard if he played protoss vs zerg, but oh snap, then he wouldnt have had an excuse for losing.
JMave
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Singapore1803 Posts
December 11 2008 12:54 GMT
#17
Its like noob level TvZ. 2 lurks = own 24 rine army x((
火心 Jealous. I always loved that feeling when I was young. Embrace it.
Aus)MaCrO
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia349 Posts
December 11 2008 12:58 GMT
#18
On December 11 2008 21:51 Epicfailguy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2008 21:47 SpriteLove wrote:
wait... your a zerg player complaining about protoss?

at lower levels pvz is insanely hard to play compared to zvp

At least in the early game.

Im pretty sure the op would've been owned just as hard if he played protoss vs zerg, but oh snap, then he wouldnt have had an excuse for losing.


OUCH! Lol maybe you are right. I am not sure. What I do know is that I pretty clearly stated that I keep losing because I suck, not because Protoss is imbalanced. Hell, deep down, I know it isn't imbalanced, it is just that, in the hands of better players, it seems that way. They micro their zealots well, they position their storms properly etc.

As for the guy who mentioned VOD's, watching the pro's deflect the builds does help, but in the end situations like that come down to micro, and you cannot learn micro watching some pro play, you have to do it yourself. That is why I have been playing a lot against it, getting friends to do the build against me.
Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-11 13:01:44
December 11 2008 12:59 GMT
#19
It's not like you have to stick with a particular race.
I started off as a Terran player, but then people started complaining about how Z>P.
So I changed to Z to abuse that match-up.
After the new maps/ FE style I changed to protoss.

If you're already at a high level with one race I see why you might be reluctant to change, but you're at a low level anyway so it doesn't really matter. Maybe you'll play protoss for a bit, realise their shortcomings and become a stronger zerg player.

Or just stop making excuses, you do mention you lose because you suck, so just leave it at that, no need to incite race related flaming.
No I'm never serious.
chroniX
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
517 Posts
December 11 2008 13:01 GMT
#20
i so feel with you.im in the same situation. protoss just pisses me off
for me a 2gate is incredible hard to beat. but as you said im getting better at it every time...
the normal fe-toss:
i often read that the key to beat low-level protoss is just to outmacro them.....ok! so i take my bases while he sits behind his fe-cannons teching up to HTs/reaver.i get a crapload of ctrl-groups hyds/lings ... and then? can someone tell me how to follow up or give me some advice on hive-timing? normally if i managed to get a good early game i just try to prevent his 3rd but i lose soo much doing this due to HTs/reaver/drops (scourge are soo stupid!). when i somehow got behind during early game he just pushes out and steamrolls my bases with his toss-super-mixed ball (zeals,goons,ht,archons). its seems so much easier for a 100apm player to throw around 3 storms raping a gazillion zerg units in 2 seconds than dodging it with 4 groups of cute zerg units
oh btw: the tech switch to mutas after the initial hydras worked for me quite well almost everytime i did it. think i saw it in a jaedong game 1-2 months ago.
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