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DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 30 2008 04:03 GMT
#21
On November 30 2008 12:57 -_- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2008 12:55 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
It doesn't really make a difference.

Probes are just about the only unit you queue so the extra millisecond of speed isn't that important. During the time of the game where probe production is most constant, you don't need to use every second of your 150 protoss apm anyway.

It doesn't hurt. It isn't necessarily better, but if that's his style, so be it.

Are you going to call NaDa a noob because he clicks to build units occasionally? There is no one right way to do anything.


We're talking about clickbuilding PROBES. PROBES. PROBES.

And I'm pretty sure Nony clicks all the time, not just early game.



(if anyone's interested in giving a well thought out protoss hotkey theory I would love it! Do you build buildings and units in different way depending on your hand positions? Stuff like that)


I'm not a protoss player, but I really don't see how the extra time it takes to clickbuild a probe makes any difference. Would you really call NonY a noob for that statement?
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-_-
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States7081 Posts
November 30 2008 04:10 GMT
#22
On November 30 2008 13:03 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2008 12:57 -_- wrote:
On November 30 2008 12:55 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
It doesn't really make a difference.

Probes are just about the only unit you queue so the extra millisecond of speed isn't that important. During the time of the game where probe production is most constant, you don't need to use every second of your 150 protoss apm anyway.

It doesn't hurt. It isn't necessarily better, but if that's his style, so be it.

Are you going to call NaDa a noob because he clicks to build units occasionally? There is no one right way to do anything.


We're talking about clickbuilding PROBES. PROBES. PROBES.

And I'm pretty sure Nony clicks all the time, not just early game.



(if anyone's interested in giving a well thought out protoss hotkey theory I would love it! Do you build buildings and units in different way depending on your hand positions? Stuff like that)


I'm not a protoss player, but I really don't see how the extra time it takes to clickbuild a probe makes any difference. Would you really call NonY a noob for that statement?


I thought it was intersting that Nony used what I consider an inferior technique to build probes.

I'm not sure exactly what level of skill your at, so I'm not sure how to explain it. Generally, hotkeys are faster than clicking. That's just a general rule that's safe to follow. There might be some args for how moving your hand to the right side of the keyboard can slow you down... but again, hand speed over the keyboard is just SO much faster... it's like playing a piano v... trying to click on a desktop icon...



I'm not entirely sure I'm right, but I wish we could get some discussion, b/c I've never seen high level HK discussion besides tasteless in that thread; just random lists of 1-4 units 5-8 gates 09 nexus and the like.
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
November 30 2008 04:13 GMT
#23
gosuface strikes again.
Rillanon.au
clazziquai
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
6685 Posts
November 30 2008 04:16 GMT
#24
you mean bitchface
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-_-
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States7081 Posts
November 30 2008 04:18 GMT
#25
On November 30 2008 13:16 clazziquai wrote:
you mean bitchface



lol boy that -_- must be stinging u just owned that twerp!
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
November 30 2008 04:25 GMT
#26
Must work out for him if he's one of the few foreigners that made it to a Korean team. His colleagues and coach will probably make him change though.
Zidane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States1689 Posts
November 30 2008 04:29 GMT
#27
Some people have faster mouses than they have keyboard strokes. Hard to believe I know.
iNfeRnaL *
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Germany1908 Posts
November 30 2008 04:33 GMT
#28
Nony is good you're not.
Nony could play mouse only and would probably still do C with ease.
Also, he said his settings are like that, not that he wants everybody to use his.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
November 30 2008 04:33 GMT
#29
On November 30 2008 13:29 Zidane wrote:
Some people have faster mouses than they have keyboard strokes. Hard to believe I know.

But nony is 350 apm >_>
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pubbanana
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3063 Posts
November 30 2008 04:41 GMT
#30
HE CLICKS TO BUILD PROBES HOLY FUCKSHIT111!!!!
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-_-
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States7081 Posts
November 30 2008 04:47 GMT
#31
On November 30 2008 13:33 iNfeRnaL wrote:
Nony is good you're not.
Nony could play mouse only and would probably still do C with ease.
Also, he said his settings are like that, not that he wants everybody to use his.


No. I would own Nony in my sleep. My argument depends on that premise. And the premise is true. U don't know SHIT about me. When I said I was C level, I just forgot to add I was C-I'm-so-much-better-than-Nony-I-could-4-probe-rush-him-and-find-him-last-and-own-his-ass.

That little bitch has never faced the 'face before, and when we play I'll beat his ass all the way back America.































PS: "I'm a vampire"
NrG.Bamboo
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2756 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-30 04:55:05
November 30 2008 04:54 GMT
#32
Damn you would be pretty cool if only you were funny.
I need to protect all your life you can enjoy the vibrant life of your battery
MyLostTemple *
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States2921 Posts
November 30 2008 04:55 GMT
#33
lol :D
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SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
November 30 2008 04:56 GMT
#34
x(((

dont be mean to nony

)))x
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-_-
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States7081 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-30 04:58:03
November 30 2008 04:56 GMT
#35
On November 30 2008 13:54 Valentine wrote:
Damn you would be pretty cool if only you were funny.




I really wouldn't.


Edit:

I would use my comedic skills to make you let me sodomize u tho. Cute pic.
-orb-
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5770 Posts
November 30 2008 05:03 GMT
#36
As much as I love tasteless, tasteless is commentating games while NonY is going to korea to play on a professional korean team.

I personally use the 0p9p8p method, but I think it's just a matter of personal preference. I think if late game I had to have all my army units at the middle/right of the keyboard (starting at 4 instead of starting at 1), i'd get really pissed off with how far I had to reach to hit a late game. I like having those low hotkeys free.

Still, doesn't make NonY's method wrong.
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Yaqoob
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Canada3356 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-30 05:06:03
November 30 2008 05:04 GMT
#37
Bisu and Stork both hotkey their nexus to 4 and sometimes 3/4.

[Quote=Knicknack]Um, how hard is it to find out that many (and probably the majority of) pros do not do 0p or scout on8. Nexus on 4: Pusan, Stork, Bisu, Daezang, PJ, Anytime. Nexus on 3: Tempest, free, draco. Nexus on 2: asuka. Nexus on 1, Jangbi, bestgod. Nexus on 6, Tester, Sea.pure. Nexus on 7, Zeus. Etc, etc.[/Quote]
김택용 Fighting!
-_-
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States7081 Posts
November 30 2008 05:06 GMT
#38
On November 30 2008 14:03 -orb- wrote:
As much as I love tasteless, tasteless is commentating games while NonY is going to korea to play on a professional korean team.

I personally use the 0p9p8p method, but I think it's just a matter of personal preference. I think if late game I had to have all my army units at the middle/right of the keyboard (starting at 4 instead of starting at 1), i'd get really pissed off with how far I had to reach to hit a late game. I like having those low hotkeys free.

Still, doesn't make NonY's method wrong.


Does anybody know what method Nony uses now? I just really doubt it's still probe... but then again when you get used to something over K's upon K's of games, it's very tough to changed.

Not exactly sure what your talking about (I mean I don't understand the words and what they mean, not a snarky rhetorical diss).

If your army units were bound on 4-8 or something, where would you have trouble reaching?
Yaqoob
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Canada3356 Posts
November 30 2008 05:07 GMT
#39
Bisu and Stork both hotkey their nexus to 4 and sometimes 3/4.

Knicknack wroteUm, how hard is it to find out that many (and probably the majority of) pros do not do 0p or scout on8. Nexus on 4: Pusan, Stork, Bisu, Daezang, PJ, Anytime. Nexus on 3: Tempest, free, draco. Nexus on 2: asuka. Nexus on 1, Jangbi, bestgod. Nexus on 6, Tester, Sea.pure. Nexus on 7, Zeus. Etc, etc.

김택용 Fighting!
-_-
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States7081 Posts
November 30 2008 05:08 GMT
#40
On November 30 2008 14:04 Yaqoob wrote:
Bisu and Stork both hotkey their nexus to 4 and sometimes 3/4.

[Quote=Knicknack]Um, how hard is it to find out that many (and probably the majority of) pros do not do 0p or scout on8. Nexus on 4: Pusan, Stork, Bisu, Daezang, PJ, Anytime. Nexus on 3: Tempest, free, draco. Nexus on 2: asuka. Nexus on 1, Jangbi, bestgod. Nexus on 6, Tester, Sea.pure. Nexus on 7, Zeus. Etc, etc.
[/QUOTE]


OK I want to make this very clear. I'm not just talking about 0p. I'm talking about CLICKING probe v P'ing probe.

If you HK nexus to 4, you can comfortably use your index to press P.
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