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On November 18 2008 16:18 SpiritoftheTuna wrote:
if you can't analyze literature you are like the lowest form of human
like seriously, analyzing literature is like fucking ABCs.
Would you like to write my Master's thesis then? I was considering analyzing how modern movements in literature and film display a shift from the postmodern/post-structuralist/post-anything mindset that was so dominant after the 1960s in literary thought back to Modernism (in the vein of Joyce and Eliot) that uses the psychological impacts of 9/11 as the tipping point. It's a bit cross-discipline, so that might not be so ABC.
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On November 18 2008 17:32 benjammin wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2008 16:18 SpiritoftheTuna wrote:
if you can't analyze literature you are like the lowest form of human
like seriously, analyzing literature is like fucking ABCs. Would you like to write my Master's thesis then? I was considering analyzing how modern movements in literature and film display a shift from the postmodern/post-structuralist/post-anything mindset that was so dominant after the 1960s in literary thought back to Modernism (in the vein of Joyce and Eliot) that uses the psychological impacts of 9/11 as the tipping point. It's a bit cross-discipline, so that might not be so ABC.
sounds easy enough, just give me the resources and time to do it.
(i'm not actually going to do it, because writing a thesis is going a bit far to prove a point)
its just fucking collecting examples and tracing patterns
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On November 18 2008 17:43 SpiritoftheTuna wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2008 17:32 benjammin wrote:On November 18 2008 16:18 SpiritoftheTuna wrote:
if you can't analyze literature you are like the lowest form of human
like seriously, analyzing literature is like fucking ABCs. Would you like to write my Master's thesis then? I was considering analyzing how modern movements in literature and film display a shift from the postmodern/post-structuralist/post-anything mindset that was so dominant after the 1960s in literary thought back to Modernism (in the vein of Joyce and Eliot) that uses the psychological impacts of 9/11 as the tipping point. It's a bit cross-discipline, so that might not be so ABC. sounds easy enough, just give me the resources and time to do it. (i'm not actually going to do it, because writing a thesis is going a bit far to prove a point) its just fucking collecting examples and tracing patterns
So is genetics, so is studying the CA3 Schaffer collaterals and the signals they send to CA1 hippocampal neurons in the rat brain...anything can be reduced to the basics. It's kind of ironic that that's exactly what the fucking 'scientific method' is: collecting examples and drawing conclusions. You're just being ignorant and trying to attack humanities and fine arts majors as less than practical applied science majors. I'd assume you're just purposely trolling to be a dick and don't actually think that, because if you do you don't really have any place in any sort of argument of this nature.
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^ is probably correct in his assumptions. While you're at it, though, do you think you could write me a discursive essay on Blake's "Jerusalem: The Emanation of The Great Albion"? The entire collected literary criticism on the work basically amounts to "Dunno," so I imagine with your keen ability to collect examples and trace patterns you should have no problem writing something brilliant.
It's here, if you like: http://www.blakearchive.org/exist/blake/archive/copy.xq?copyid=jerusalem.e&java=no
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I don't remember if I read it or just was forced to watch the black and white movie, but what I learned was that it was one of those times when we learned how bad racism was, how we should treat black people extra the same as everyone else, and not be like those guys who were unfair to the blacks, cos it's just sad.
With hindsight I can say the story probably is also a bit of a tragedy in the ancient Greek sense, but twisted, because you got society there making bad decisions, bad things happening to good people while the good people you empathize with ("you"), forced to watch, helpless. I think that would be a sweet angle to attack the story from, if you know something about Greek tragedy, and how could you not?
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United States22883 Posts
Uh... maybe you should retake 9th grade English and re-read Oedipus, because this book has little to do with Greek tragedy.
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On November 18 2008 16:10 SpiralArchitect wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2008 14:38 qrs wrote:On November 18 2008 10:33 SpiralArchitect wrote:
Seriously, its ok if you dont like the book, but how can you call it crappy? Thats like calling Beowulf crappy. Um, Beowulf is crappy. It gets to be a "classic" since it's 1000 years old. What? Beowulf is the most influential work of English literature ever in my opinion. It has become the basis for so many other stories and has been redone hundreds if not thousands of times. Even if you arent smart enough to understand it you could at least appreciate its historical value and its value to English literature. For Christs sake its the oldest work of English literature ever iirc.
Sticks and stones...
And as for the rest of your post, you just repeat what I said (yes, it's old). That doesn't make it a good piece of writing. (Although granted I didn't read it in Old English.) Your post is more or less a non sequitur.
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Maybe you should re-think tragedy now that you're not a 9th grader.
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United States22883 Posts
No, because you specifically referred to ancient Greek tragedy and it's simply not a theme in this book. Quit talking out of your ass in every single thread.
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I didn't say Greek tragedy was a theme of the book. Quit reading out of your ass in every single thread.
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With hindsight I can say the story probably is also a bit of a tragedy in the ancient Greek sense
Blow it out your dick, if you know what I mean.
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On November 18 2008 16:10 SpiralArchitect wrote:
What? Beowulf is the most influential work of English literature ever in my opinion. It has become the basis for so many other stories and has been redone hundreds if not thousands of times. Even if you arent smart enough to understand it you could at least appreciate its historical value and its value to English literature. For Christs sake its the oldest work of English literature ever iirc.
The Canterbury Tales?
Agree with everything else though.
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Don't say the N word. That's what Gregory Peck said. Well, it wasn't a possible message, but it was a blatant piece of advice.
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