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oh wow this is gonna be great ^^
opening bw right now
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hold it, gotta kill the PC until it dies?
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On October 18 2008 06:12 Raithed wrote:
hold it, gotta kill the PC until it dies?
yep ^^ that brings a lot more fun to the process :D
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Is there anything cooler than a nuclear holocaust?
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I thought replays with Computer players always messed up because their actions weren't recorded and so the Computer just played a different game each time?
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No
The computer will play the same game everytime as replays record the exact position at which time, of each unit/building/critters in the game.
In other words; they don't mess up.
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Lol when I first read it I thought you meant to video yourself literally beating up an actual computer into tiny little pieces.
Is there a prize! I might try something creative if there's an incentive.
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Hmm I don't even know what I could do. Are multiple entries allowed?
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Didn't Leg say that the pros used to try and kill off terran comps in the fastest time with just 1 probe? If anyone can do that one, I would be interested in seeing it.
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On October 18 2008 06:27 EsX_Raptor wrote:No The computer will play the same game everytime as replays record the exact position at which time, of each unit/building/critters in the game. In other words; they don't mess up.
lol what
replays dont record positions
they record actions
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yeah, but to avoid flooding, let's just keep it to, say, 3 reps?
edit: well yeah xD, but remember that comps do have actions too ^^
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On October 18 2008 06:46 Xeofreestyler wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2008 06:27 EsX_Raptor wrote:No The computer will play the same game everytime as replays record the exact position at which time, of each unit/building/critters in the game. In other words; they don't mess up. lol what replays dont record positions they record actions
Yeah, but if the actions of the computer can be determined by a computer (no matter how random its supposed to be) if you store the random seed, you can replicate the random behavior. For example, everytime i build my game, I have a character that will run either right or left. I had a seed of "1", and everytime i ran my game, it ran to the left. When the seed is changed to the date/time/milisec, then thats random.. so in other words, the replay somehow stores the seed.
Back to topic, this sounds like an interesting contest.. though i would have to think about something clever before i play the pc .... hmm....
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On October 18 2008 06:46 Qatol wrote:
Didn't Leg say that the pros used to try and kill off terran comps in the fastest time with just 1 probe? If anyone can do that one, I would be interested in seeing it.
I remember there being a big thread about this, they played on challenger.
I think it was nony or frozenarbiter that did it the quickest.
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rofl good try but no UMS allowd either XD
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this has 'stove' written all over it. will post replay when i'm done
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On October 18 2008 06:24 Empyrean wrote:
I thought replays with Computer players always messed up because their actions weren't recorded and so the Computer just played a different game each time?
I believe it used to do this, but they patched it in something like...1.09, or 1.10; not sure, you would hafta go back and check the changelog.
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On October 18 2008 06:54 never_toss wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2008 06:46 Xeofreestyler wrote:On October 18 2008 06:27 EsX_Raptor wrote:No The computer will play the same game everytime as replays record the exact position at which time, of each unit/building/critters in the game. In other words; they don't mess up. lol what replays dont record positions they record actions Yeah, but if the actions of the computer can be determined by a computer (no matter how random its supposed to be) if you store the random seed, you can replicate the random behavior. For example, everytime i build my game, I have a character that will run either right or left. I had a seed of "1", and everytime i ran my game, it ran to the left. When the seed is changed to the date/time/milisec, then thats random.. so in other words, the replay somehow stores the seed. Back to topic, this sounds like an interesting contest.. though i would have to think about something clever before i play the pc .... hmm....
doesnt the computer just run an algorithm
and arent random choices usually based on (game)time, which would be the same when running a replay
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On October 18 2008 07:27 EsX_Raptor wrote:
rofl good try but no UMS allowd either XD
WTF YOU CAN'T CHANGE THE RULES TO EXCLUDE MY SUBMISSION AFTER THE FACT. I WANT A RECOUNT.
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On October 18 2008 07:39 Xeofreestyler wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2008 06:54 never_toss wrote:On October 18 2008 06:46 Xeofreestyler wrote:On October 18 2008 06:27 EsX_Raptor wrote:No The computer will play the same game everytime as replays record the exact position at which time, of each unit/building/critters in the game. In other words; they don't mess up. lol what replays dont record positions they record actions Yeah, but if the actions of the computer can be determined by a computer (no matter how random its supposed to be) if you store the random seed, you can replicate the random behavior. For example, everytime i build my game, I have a character that will run either right or left. I had a seed of "1", and everytime i ran my game, it ran to the left. When the seed is changed to the date/time/milisec, then thats random.. so in other words, the replay somehow stores the seed. Back to topic, this sounds like an interesting contest.. though i would have to think about something clever before i play the pc .... hmm.... doesnt the computer just run an algorithm and arent random choices usually based on (game)time, which would be the same when running a replay
It really depends on how its programmed. The random seed could be the time running the replay, as well as it could be the date of the replay or a simple flag stored on the replay. It does run an algorithm which basically acts the same way based on this random seed
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On October 18 2008 08:12 micronesia wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2008 07:27 EsX_Raptor wrote:
rofl good try but no UMS allowd either XD WTF YOU CAN'T CHANGE THE RULES TO EXCLUDE MY SUBMISSION AFTER THE FACT. I WANT A RECOUNT.
lawl
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The computer doesnt do random actions, if you go many many tanks, the computer will mass mutas, and if you go lots of air, it will mass scourge, try it.
I'm coming with a rep soon.
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On October 18 2008 07:34 waterGHOSTCLAWdragon wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2008 06:24 Empyrean wrote:
I thought replays with Computer players always messed up because their actions weren't recorded and so the Computer just played a different game each time? I believe it used to do this, but they patched it in something like...1.09, or 1.10; not sure, you would hafta go back and check the changelog.
Ah, that might be it. Last time I actually seriously played the game was between 1.08 and 1.10, so that's probably what I remembered.
That being said, I can't wait to do this :D
EDIT: Ok, Chill's replay for sure doesn't work for me...do I need penguin plug or something to open it?
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YOCOMBATEXYOMACROWASSLIPPINGWHATSUPWITHTHAT?
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Wait. Aren't contests supposed to have prizes?
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On October 18 2008 10:58 Empyrean wrote:
Wait. Aren't contests supposed to have prizes?
hush hush the prize is you get the pride of knowing you stomped a computer better than everybody else.
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Forcing a zerg computer to cancel their only remaining hatchery that is still building by damaging it is pretty funny but I've only got to do that a couple of times.
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Chuiu can u plz reupload? It won't show up 
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Try it again, I just forgot to click accept.
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Here was my first idea:
http://www.filesavr.com/probemadness
It probably would have been a lot cooler (and more successful) if I actually used hotkeys and had better APM at the end there, but it worked and you get the idea.
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lol I might try this when I get home.
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All of the last few replays I've downloaded from the internet to watch have all messed up. I think the actions get screwed up. For example, Chill's replay is ~18 minutes long and the protoss comp dies at 10 minutes. All of my autoreplay replays work fine though.
Sorry for being a bit off-topic but this is super irritating.
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Do you have a custom AI script?
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On October 19 2008 00:21 SonuvBob wrote:
Do you have a custom AI script?
Nope.
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On October 18 2008 23:42 Durak wrote:
All of the last few replays I've downloaded from the internet to watch have all messed up. I think the actions get screwed up. For example, Chill's replay is ~18 minutes long and the protoss comp dies at 10 minutes. All of my autoreplay replays work fine though.
Sorry for being a bit off-topic but this is super irritating.
This :/
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I think you can't rewatch the replay if it's made in single player, but if played on LAN you can.
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I watched Chill's, it's awesome. :p
Maybe you have to watch it in SP?
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Chill's worked in SP and it was great. However, I have some 2v2 games that have broken in a similar fashion and I'm sure those weren't played in SP.
Edit: Typo
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Haha, he parasited your stolen OLs for detection. Grendel Brood for PP08!
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i challenge someone to play zerg vs terran and use only queens for broodlings and defilers for dark swarm...
i coulnd't pull it off, it's pretty damn hard
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What? That's really simple to do...
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I'm gonna try and kill a zerg with an archon tonight. No one steal my idea!
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On October 19 2008 09:32 Kau wrote:
I'm gonna try and kill a zerg with an archon tonight. No one steal my idea!
I don't think that's going to be very close to a contest winner >.>
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haha very nice chill and durak you made it look too easy >>
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How about recalling enough sieged tanks to flatten a base in seconds?
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On October 19 2008 09:42 waterGHOSTCLAWdragon wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2008 09:32 Kau wrote:
I'm gonna try and kill a zerg with an archon tonight. No one steal my idea! I don't think that's going to be very close to a contest winner >.>
Even if it's only one archon?
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The computer whores sunkens too much for that to be possible.
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How is that raping the computer?!?!?!?!?!?!?11? You get to use units that do 40 damage each, and then you get to combine them to make a super unit. If Starcraft was balanced, Bisu would be doing this.
+ Show Spoiler +God damn...it takes so long for ghosts to kill anything.
http://www.filesavr.com/tsuit
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+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.filesavr.com/cpustompzvz3
If anyone can come up with a faster way of crushing the silicon aspirations, I'd like to hear about it. As it stands now, the hatchery explodes at exactly 3:00; I refrain from targeting the hatch manually, as that would be unsportsmanlike.
The 3rd drone that went out was to block the computer's 12 hatch, which oddly enough didn't come at all.
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I think the AI is broken on that position of bluestorm (top right).
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On October 21 2008 06:15 nevake wrote:
I think the AI is broken on that position of bluestorm (top right).
Unfortunately that ghost submission is invalid because it's only 3 each .
And the OP is doing a half assed job of keeping this up to date.
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Sorry I've been somewhat afk for a while XD
I'll update 
edit: nevake plz choose the 3 reps you want to be taken into consideration as you have 4 and I don't know which to take out =S
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http://fighterreplays.com/starcraft/replays/59e07d
Hey, I was playing it on single player so a few times I pressed "s" by accident and it slowed the game (at the beginning... I corrected immediate after). Do I have to re-do it? ):
I am still going to submit more though so... Just let me know n_n
+ Show Spoiler +I think this is viable for someone with pro micro and multi task...
Obs see enemy obs, scouts kill that obs. DAs MC enemy units. DTs kill enemy units because there is no obs.
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Nah man it's alright 8) I'll ad it to the op ^^
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YOU SURE?? O_O
b/c tbh i loved that rep :D
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On October 21 2008 04:37 alpskomleko wrote:+ Show Spoiler +http://www.filesavr.com/cpustompzvz3If anyone can come up with a faster way of crushing the silicon aspirations, I'd like to hear about it. As it stands now, the hatchery explodes at exactly 3:00; I refrain from targeting the hatch manually, as that would be unsportsmanlike. The 3rd drone that went out was to block the computer's 12 hatch, which oddly enough didn't come at all.
That's pretty fast. I can win in 4:40ish with a 14cc though! :-D
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Man, I lost this one attempt at a sick strategy the 3 times I tried it, maybe someone else can pull it off. SCVs, medics, vessels, and valks, vs Z. I never seem to get enough before the zerg comes with 2 lurk 20 dra ):
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You mean 2 days remaining
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On October 22 2008 08:31 EsX_Raptor wrote:
YOU SURE?? O_O
b/c tbh i loved that rep :D
xD ah ok. In that case, the OP is fine as it is.
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Oh man, I have one from a while ago, I'm at work right now but I def have to upload it.
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How long does the voting last?
edit: whoops I can't read.
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I like how randoms vote for chill just because he's a mod.
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killing a computer with plague was art though, gotta give it to you
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On October 27 2008 10:10 d(O.o)a wrote:
I like how randoms vote for chill just because he's a mod.
You can't really prove that >_<; Though he probably will get some autovotes from people who didn't even watch any of the reps, they were pretty good.
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On October 27 2008 11:56 HeavOnEarth wrote:
killing a computer with plague was art though, gotta give it to you
haha thanks.
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i didn't know this was a creativity contest, Just thought we were supposed to own the comp fast. Oh well.
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On October 28 2008 06:00 CharlieMurphy wrote:
i didn't know this was a creativity contest, Just thought we were supposed to own the comp fast. Oh well.
On October 18 2008 06:06 EsX_Raptor wrote:
Your goals are:
- Anihilate the computer in the most creative way you can think of.
Sometimes we get a little anxious .
I plan on watching them all today. The only one I've seen so far was Chill's cannon push which beats my replay hands down. I was just trying to do what someone suggested since I'm not creative.
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Firebat Hero:
Here i tried to do a "firebathero" TvP where a firebat surrounded by medics kills all zealots and probes before the toss can get cannons
+ Show Spoiler +
Below are other ideas if someone wants to give it a try:
+ Show Spoiler ++50 kill reaver PvP using only 1 reaver with shield batery support, no cannons/other units
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On October 27 2008 10:10 d(O.o)a wrote:
I like how randoms vote for chill just because he's a mod.
This is war. I ask everyone to vote for me out of spite for d(O.o)a. Please, heed my call! I need your support more than ever!
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On October 28 2008 07:04 Elvin_vn wrote:Firebat Hero:Here i tried to do a "firebathero" TvP where a firebat surrounded by medics kills all zealots and probes before the toss can get cannons + Show Spoiler +Below are other ideas if someone wants to give it a try: + Show Spoiler ++50 kill reaver PvP using only 1 reaver with shield batery support, no cannons/other units
Is shuttle acceptable? I already beat fanaticism's challenge and now yours. Also it's too late to submit replays.
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On October 28 2008 09:48 nevake wrote:
aw...no love for nevake.
<3
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I feel sorry for all of the people who didn't get any votes
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On October 28 2008 11:10 waterGHOSTCLAWdragon wrote:
I feel sorry for all of the people who didn't get any votes
Yeah  they didn't even get their own.
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On October 28 2008 07:40 FragKrag wrote:
GO KAU GOGOGO KAU
Haha did you even see my reps? The first one I didn't even finish the comp haha.
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GG we have a winner!
!! ----------> d(O.o)a <---------- !!
Congratulations!
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On October 29 2008 03:49 EsX_Raptor wrote:
GG we have a winner!
!! ----------> d(O.o)a <---------- !!
Congratulations!
geegee
Oh and I'm working on that 50 kill reaver. I got to 42 but the shuttle got sniped by scouts
It's very difficult due to the timing you need.
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chill... lost..?
*hides under rock*
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