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Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9110 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-17 03:57:14
October 17 2008 03:56 GMT
#1
So i'm in the market for a new computer. My current one is a Pentium 4 2.40GHz with 504MB RAM that is about 4-5 years old.

I'm getting ready to go to college so I want to get a nice new computer. I was considering building my own but I know very little about the process and how part compatibility works. I know some resident computer pros roam TL.net like Izzycraft and I was looking for the thread (I wanna say it was Intothewow) who had a thread where TL guided them on their parts buying process.

Actual Question: Just from my rudimentary knowledge getting a computer like this for lets say $600-800 is a pretty good deal right? It looks to have nice specs (although still waiting on an answer if it is 32 or 64 bit vista ultimate.)

http://cgi.ebay.com/Alienware-Area-51-Computer-P4-3-4-GHz-4-GB-RAM_W0QQitemZ160291805837QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item160291805837&_trkparms=72:1205|39:1|66:2|65:12|240:1309&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

Also... A processor having a higher GHz doesn't necessarily mean it's faster right? I mean the really good processors now don't have a GHz number that is all that higher, but they are duo/quad core which means it's like x2 or x4 of whatever the GHz number is?

rA.BreeZe
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada56 Posts
October 17 2008 03:59 GMT
#2
Your current one is fine since all you do is play starcraft anyways!
wswordsmen
Profile Joined October 2007
United States987 Posts
October 17 2008 04:06 GMT
#3
On October 17 2008 12:59 rA.BreeZe wrote:
Your current one is fine since all you do is play starcraft anyways!

If something is good is impossible to tell unless you know what you are going to be doing.
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9110 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-17 04:08:59
October 17 2008 04:08 GMT
#4
Haha yea that's actually true... I just have some (Intel(R) 82865G Graphics Controller) video card which is just a crappy integrated thing I think. It ran WoW just fine surprisingly though (although maybe I was missing out on better graphics but it ran just fine.)

I tried playing a trial of Chrysis and some other new games and they wouldn't start... WoW said it wouldn't work because the video card wasn't supported but I just clicked play anyway and it was fine.
Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
October 17 2008 04:26 GMT
#5
newegg > ebay imo.
iceburn
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States303 Posts
October 17 2008 04:35 GMT
#6
just build it yourself better deal, you get some fun over the summer
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9110 Posts
October 17 2008 04:37 GMT
#7
On October 17 2008 13:35 iceburn wrote:
just build it yourself better deal, you get some fun over the summer


heh yea that's definitely what I hope I end up doing, I guess I just want to start getting exposed to what's what so I have a rough idea of what I'm dealing with.
GeneralStan
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States4789 Posts
October 17 2008 04:49 GMT
#8
[image loading]
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Elvin_vn
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
Vietnam2038 Posts
October 17 2008 04:59 GMT
#9
just to remind: u need a power supply that could handle all that power consumption
do not agrue with idiots, they will pull you down to their level and beat you with their experiences
blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
October 17 2008 05:00 GMT
#10
On October 17 2008 12:56 Jonoman92 wrote:


Also... A processor having a higher GHz doesn't necessarily mean it's faster right? I mean the really good processors now don't have a GHz number that is all that higher, but they are duo/quad core which means it's like x2 or x4 of whatever the GHz number is?


not true. A dual core CPU that is said to run at 2.0 ghz runs at 2.0 ghz. It does NOT run at 4.0 ghz.

anyways, it seems like you don't really even a new computer. Consider getting a new computer when there's actually something you can't do well on your current computer.
blabberrrrr
IzzyCraft
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4487 Posts
October 17 2008 05:11 GMT
#11
On October 17 2008 13:59 Elvin_vn wrote:
just to remind: u need a power supply that could handle all that power consumption

400w might handle it ionno what the power consumption of a 9800gt is but i doubt that will use more then 300w =P
I have ass for brains so,
even when I shit I'm droping knowledge.
DanceCommander
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1808 Posts
October 17 2008 05:12 GMT
#12
newegg this bitch
GeneralStan
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States4789 Posts
October 17 2008 05:14 GMT
#13
On the issue of quad core, I wouldn't do it at the moment. While theoretically programs will be coming out that use more than a single core, they're aren't here yet. Modern programs are optimized to run on a single core, and a dual core offers enough multitasking to do the things that the average gamer does (Game + Browser + Media Player). Quad Cores in this day and age offer less performance for more price, so its my contention that a value oriented computer should always use a dual core. Better performance than any quad core you could get for the price in 90%+ current applications.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
village_idiot
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
2436 Posts
October 17 2008 06:03 GMT
#14
If you don't play games, then pretty much any computer is fine. Just get XP and you're fine.
Equinox_kr
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States7395 Posts
October 17 2008 07:07 GMT
#15
Are custom built computers stable? I know that my friend's comp tech class a few years ago made custom built computers but most of them are either dead or dying D:
^-^
ZoDD
Profile Joined November 2005
Canada309 Posts
October 17 2008 07:19 GMT
#16
customs are awesome because you know exactly what you have. Its good when you want to update drivers and tinker around with settings.

general, you should save a few hundred bucks going the custom route as well.

that alienware comp in the link looks like a good deal, Id get it.
smarr pee pee
GeneralStan
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States4789 Posts
October 17 2008 08:07 GMT
#17
The Alienware is at a great price at the moment but I can't see it finishing under $800 or so.

Custom computers are fine as long as you do your research, buy good reputable parts, and make sure that everything is compatible with everything you have.

In the example I've shown, I assure you that all the components synergize well.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-17 08:37:02
October 17 2008 08:26 GMT
#18
I don't think that Alienware computer is terribly bad... but I'm not sure it is worth 600 bucks (certainly not 800). Although I say that knowing I could build one pretty easily. There is certainly value in it already being assembled and having lots of software though.

As far as CPUs go, performance is much less correlated to the frequency these days. Core 2 Duos were the big shift. I know I'm upgrading my CPU and actually going down in frequency (from a Pentium 805, 2.66 ghz, 533 mhz fsb, to a E7200, 2.53 ghz, 1066 mhz fsb), which is a first. I know Intel and AMD have tried to use numbers so people can have a better grasp of actual performance instead of just a straight up clock speed.

This is kind of old (so the newer 45 nm Wolfdale's aren't on here, or the Quad Cores), but this should give a rough idea regarding performance between various CPUs... http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2795&p=8

Basically, any Core 2 Duo is going to be a lot better than a Pentium D (the particular one on the Alienware one is a Pentium 950). Quad cores are a bit expensive yet (especially the 45 nm ones).

The one real downside to building your own computer is the cost of software. It isn't actually hard at all to build your own, although the first time you do you're not going to really have much of an idea of what you're doing. It's all pretty simple though.
pewpew
Profile Joined February 2008
United States132 Posts
October 17 2008 12:10 GMT
#19
On October 17 2008 16:07 Equinox_kr wrote:
Are custom built computers stable? I know that my friend's comp tech class a few years ago made custom built computers but most of them are either dead or dying D:


I own a custom built computer, and I absolutely think customs are stable. The only thing about buying the parts separately is that one part might be bad. This happens with Newegg often. I had to RMA my video card twice and my processor once before I got working ones.

But as long as you triple check and make sure that everything will work together, and then make sure every part is working correctly, you're made in the shade.
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
October 17 2008 13:51 GMT
#20
I'm not sure with US prices but a pc rig would depend on how it is used.

If you're the average guy that multitasks, like downloading while making vids load and surfing the net, go get a dual core that's around 3.0Ghz. Maybe 1gb of ram will suffice.

But if you're going super multitasking, get a quad core. But keep in mind that you will need a good pc box with good vents to keep your quad core cool. Get a 2gb ram at your own risk, it might overheat *or maybe its just the weather here that makes me say it*


Oh yeah, I don't want to put you in the pain of going through specs like PCI-E and those shit, but you have to. I'm not sure if the guys over the desk there knows if your shit is compatible with your motherboard so you'll have to check it yourself.
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