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So I'm pretty pissed off right now, because right now where I live it's easier for me to get illegal drugs than it is for me to get alcohol. I'm 19 years old and live in Boulder, Colorado, and it seems like every other person I meet deals either weed or lsd, and yet all I want to do tonight is get a handle and have some fun with my friends.
First of all, should I view this as a failure of our society? By outlawing drugs the government effectively creates thousands of private business owners that don't have to pay taxes, and are always willing to sell. But if, say, all the drugs in the world were sold at liquor stores, then nobody would privately sell them, and they'd be harder for minors to get.
So anyway, I started to wonder if there were some way for me to buy alcohol online (preferrably from outside the US). After about 15 minutes of fruitless searching I decided to throw it out here to see if anybody already has tried to do this.
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What are you talking about... Alcohol is ridiculously easy to get. You just have to have a friend who is of age, or a friend's brother, or your brother or whatever.
But if, say, all the drugs in the world were sold at liquor stores, then nobody would privately sell them, and they'd be harder for minors to get. They're still incredibly destructive. I don't want anymore coke heads or meth addicts. Those people are dumb as fuck, and it's not just cause they were always that way, although they couldn't have been geniuses to consume anything given to them by people so sketchy.
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I rather smoke weed with a bunch of people at my house than have a bunch of drunk people around my house.
Buying liqour online? Never heard of shit like that.
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DAMN. I live like 20 minutes from you. And yeah, I can get weed, acid, meth and coke easier than alcohol. I feel your pain.
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Go up to Canada and buy a shit load of beer. It's cheap and 18 is the legal age.
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19 unless you go to Quebec
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On September 01 2008 10:12 PsycHOTemplar wrote:What are you talking about... Alcohol is ridiculously easy to get. You just have to have a friend who is of age, or a friend's brother, or your brother or whatever. Show nested quote +But if, say, all the drugs in the world were sold at liquor stores, then nobody would privately sell them, and they'd be harder for minors to get. They're still incredibly destructive. I don't want anymore coke heads or meth addicts. Those people are dumb as fuck, and it's not just cause they were always that way, although they couldn't have been geniuses to consume anything given to them by people so sketchy. But does outlawing it reduce the number of addicts significantly enough to counter this? I'm not saying there's a right answer, and it's obviously a continuing issue.
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On September 01 2008 10:12 PsycHOTemplar wrote:What are you talking about... Alcohol is ridiculously easy to get. You just have to have a friend who is of age, or a friend's brother, or your brother or whatever. Show nested quote +But if, say, all the drugs in the world were sold at liquor stores, then nobody would privately sell them, and they'd be harder for minors to get. They're still incredibly destructive. I don't want anymore coke heads or meth addicts. Those people are dumb as fuck, and it's not just cause they were always that way, although they couldn't have been geniuses to consume anything given to them by people so sketchy. You are ignorant. Just because you have met some people who are fucked up and retarded and use drugs doesnt mean everyone who uses drugs is that way. Most people that use drugs conceal their use so you dont know they are high. They go about their lives normally and no one notices because they arent a problem. I use to snort coke everyday for like a year and a half. No one knew except the people I did it with, because I wasnt a problem. I know many other people who have had similar experiences with drugs. I am currently an A student in my 4th year of my degree at a good university. Most people who are idiots when they are high, are idiots when they arent high.
I feel sorry for you USA people. 21 is a ridiculous age to start drinking. By the time I was 21 I had already slowed down big time. I actually slowed down by 19, which is the legal age here in BC.
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But does outlawing it reduce the number of addicts significantly enough to counter this? Yes. For the same reasons outlawing murder and theft reduces their frequency. Intelligent people are afraid to go to jail and lose their freedom.
+ Show Spoiler [Rant That Will Offend Druggies] +I use to snort coke everyday for like a year and a half. No one knew except the people I did it with, because I wasnt a problem No. You think people didn't know. I don't go accusing people of being druggies; what would be the point? I still know that they are, because there are physical tells. You're a dumb ass. I have friends who do drugs. I have friends of friends who do drugs. The contrast between the intelligence and worthfulness (just a word I'm making up to define a person who has some ambition and proactivity in their life) of sober people and people who do hard drugs all the time is incredible. Interesting fact of life: Doing drugs is completely unproductive. Some people do drugs as an enhancement to whatever they're doing, but most people sit around talking about how fucked up they are, while they stumble all over the place generally making an ass out of themselves. Those people I hate and call worthless. Even living vicariously thru a character in a movie is more productive than that. I'm genuinely saddened when I see people doing nothing with their lives except working some shitty job, and doing drugs to try an ignore how much they fucked up and never tried. It's a disgrace to the human spirit of creativity and self-improvement.
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Yeah I remember when i was 19 and I was thinking, WTF, how come I have so much access to illegal drugs, but I can't get ahold of a 6 pack of beer? I hated having to always beg my friends with older siblings or fake IDs to help me. Luckily I'm 22 now, so there's no problem. Still think it's rediculous that the drinking age in the US is as high as it is, though.
edit: and if you buy alcohol online, they're required to ask for your ID when they deliver it to you. I remember looking into that option too, and i was like, "drat! foiled again!"
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100% agree with PsycHOTemplar`s rant
if you can only have fun by doing drugs and alcohol, then i feel bad for you.
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Hang out around the liqueur store and wait for someone who looks 21+ to walk by.
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On September 01 2008 12:27 Kwidowmaker wrote: Hang out around the liqueur store and wait for someone who looks 21+ to walk by.
Tried it, I don't feel like getting turned down a bunch.
Anyway I didn't mean for this to turn into a drug rant, but I agree that if you can't have fun by doing anything other than drugs/alcohol then you're pretty pitiful. That said, I think that responsible adults should be able to do whatever they want to themselves as long as they don't have any dependents or something like that.
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Just start doing weed and LSD.
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On September 01 2008 12:27 Kwidowmaker wrote: Hang out around the liqueur store and wait for someone who looks 21+ to walk by.
My friend went up to the shadiest looking guy....guess what....it was a cop :[
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On September 01 2008 12:36 Meta wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2008 12:27 Kwidowmaker wrote: Hang out around the liqueur store and wait for someone who looks 21+ to walk by. Tried it, I don't feel like getting turned down a bunch. Anyway I didn't mean for this to turn into a drug rant, but I agree that if you can't have fun by doing anything other than drugs/alcohol then you're pretty pitiful. That said, I think that responsible adults should be able to do whatever they want to themselves as long as they don't have any dependents or something like that.
My friend and I got it within 2 people. First guy looked like Ozzy, but was caught before, and the second guy looked 20~. All you have to do is look for the trendyish guys because popular culture doesn't tell you not to buy alcohol for minors There's also always the option of looking for a hobo.
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On September 01 2008 10:29 d(O.o)a wrote: Go up to Canada and buy a shit load of beer. It's cheap and 18 is the legal age.
Um go to America and then call our alcohol cheap. Ours is literally twice as much moeny ;P
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On September 01 2008 11:46 PsycHOTemplar wrote:Show nested quote +But does outlawing it reduce the number of addicts significantly enough to counter this? Yes. For the same reasons outlawing murder and theft reduces their frequency. Intelligent people are afraid to go to jail and lose their freedom. How did you come to that conclusion other than common sense?
Edit: btw I don't really have a problem with your rant even though I can't personally declare from experience whether or not there are a reasonable number of people who can actually juggle drugs and a productive life successfully.
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umm, go outside a store
find a random guy that looks like he is in his 20s and cool
go up to him and ask him if he will buy some alcohol for you if you hand him money
GG, generally works on the first try if you are good at picking people
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