• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 05:59
CET 11:59
KST 19:59
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview12Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info3herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational14SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview5RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jan 26-Feb 1): herO, Clem, ByuN, Classic win2RSL Season 4 announced for March-April6Weekly Cups (Jan 19-25): Bunny, Trigger, MaxPax win3Weekly Cups (Jan 12-18): herO, MaxPax, Solar win0BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion8
StarCraft 2
General
StarCraft 2 Not at the Esports World Cup 2026 Weekly Cups (Jan 26-Feb 1): herO, Clem, ByuN, Classic win HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview Weekly Cups (Jan 19-25): Bunny, Trigger, MaxPax win Oliveira Would Have Returned If EWC Continued
Tourneys
PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar) HomeStory Cup 28 StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) RSL Season 4 announced for March-April $21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)
Strategy
Custom Maps
[A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 511 Temple of Rebirth The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 510 Safety Violation Mutation # 509 Doomsday Report
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion Can someone share very abbreviated BW cliffnotes? [ASL21] Potential Map Candidates Liquipedia.net NEEDS editors for Brood War BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
Azhi's Colosseum - Season 2 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10
Strategy
Zealot bombing is no longer popular? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Current Meta Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Path of Exile Mobile Legends: Bang Bang Beyond All Reason
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Play, Watch, Drink: Esports …
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2143 users

new ways to lower your level?

Blogs > blagoonga123
Post a Reply
1 2 3 Next All
blagoonga123
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2068 Posts
August 07 2008 01:27 GMT
#1
I play with my roommate every once in a while who's a huge noob (like 30 apm)

So far I've tried playing mouse only and giving him allied vision (and both, once) but I still beat him. What's another advantage I can give him that'll help him out but still let me play? (so no closing my eyes or stuff like that)

FOOL! Pain is my friend! Now let me introduce you to it!
Mickey
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States2606 Posts
August 07 2008 01:29 GMT
#2
On August 07 2008 10:27 blagoonga123 wrote:
I play with my roommate every once in a while who's a huge noob (like 30 apm)

So far I've tried playing mouse only and giving him allied vision (and both, once) but I still beat him. What's another advantage I can give him that'll help him out but still let me play? (so no closing my eyes or stuff like that)

There's nothing you can really do to be honest.

You could try giving him a headstart in mining, or not expoing more than once at a time.
il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
August 07 2008 01:32 GMT
#3
Don't mine for the first X minutes.
Pressure
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
7326 Posts
August 07 2008 01:35 GMT
#4
play with a blindfold on
GrayArea
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States872 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-07 01:36:40
August 07 2008 01:36 GMT
#5
Play with 30 apm also, and make rules like "only zerglings and hydras can be made" or like "only templars and scouts" etc. etc.

edit: i mean the rules apply to yourself only, not the noob friend.
Kang Min Fighting!
MidnightGladius
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
China1214 Posts
August 07 2008 01:41 GMT
#6
Switch your mouse and keyboard, and set mouse acceleration as high as it can go.

GG mechanics.
Trust in Bayes.
blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
August 07 2008 01:42 GMT
#7
limit your worker count
blabberrrrr
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9106 Posts
August 07 2008 01:42 GMT
#8
Do something like GrayArea said. You can only make scouts or dts or something like that.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
August 07 2008 01:42 GMT
#9
start with 3 scvs.
or 2 scvs.

Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
August 07 2008 01:47 GMT
#10
On August 07 2008 10:27 blagoonga123 wrote:
I play with my roommate every once in a while who's a huge noob (like 30 apm)

So far I've tried playing mouse only and giving him allied vision (and both, once) but I still beat him. What's another advantage I can give him that'll help him out but still let me play? (so no closing my eyes or stuff like that)


try to repeatedly attack him with too few units


when you do so, stop macroing and focus all your attention on microing the units until they are dead
allowicious
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States972 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-07 01:49:47
August 07 2008 01:47 GMT
#11
-Start with 1 or 2 scvs
-play with mouse using left hand only
-you can't have more than 1 fact/rax/gate
-you can't scout with your scvs, you can only scout with your first unit

a few options you can try
lalalalala~~~
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25991 Posts
August 07 2008 01:49 GMT
#12
I've played games with my friends:
- Mouse only
- Feet only
- Left hand only (hardest one)
Moderator
Antipathy
Profile Joined June 2008
United States222 Posts
August 07 2008 01:49 GMT
#13
When I was first starting, my friend who was teaching me was leaps and bounds ahead of me. We first tried making him vision me, but then that turned into me becoming bad at scouting once we turned it off. The best solution we came up with was me getting a 60 second head start where he could not do anything.

Obviously, I tried to abuse this advantage by rushing every game. As a result my early game is really refined and now I can keep up with him in the early game.
"All give some, some give all"
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
August 07 2008 01:53 GMT
#14
On August 07 2008 10:49 Chill wrote:
I've played games with my friends:
- Mouse only
- Feet only
- Left hand only (hardest one)


ur better with ur feet than ur left hand?

lol
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
August 07 2008 01:59 GMT
#15
On August 07 2008 10:53 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2008 10:49 Chill wrote:
I've played games with my friends:
- Mouse only
- Feet only
- Left hand only (hardest one)


ur better with ur feet than ur left hand?

lol

Graphicssavior[gm] : What is a “yawn” rape ;; Masumune - It was the year of the pig for those fucking defilers. Chill - A clinic you say? okum: SC without Korean yelling is like porn without sex. konamix: HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOMMY!
Tadzio
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
3340 Posts
August 07 2008 01:59 GMT
#16
force yourself to watch battles, but refuse to micro.
nAi.PrOtOsS
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada784 Posts
August 07 2008 02:26 GMT
#17
reverse the keys on ur mouse, so ur left clicker is now ur right clicker.
BottleAbuser
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)1888 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-07 02:44:13
August 07 2008 02:34 GMT
#18
I think the best ones are:

Limit your build (buildings or unit choice) - maybe to something completely retarded, like Scouts & Arbiters Only, or No Factory Units & No Academy.

No more than 2 active mineral lines at any given time. (If he's really bad, make that 1.)

Sacrifice 10 workers every 10 minutes by attack-move to his base. (If that kills him.... well..... fuck, why is he still playing... -.- ok that's mean)

Limit yourself to 50 supply the whole game.

Limit yourself to 20 buildings, max. Trickier because you have to count the buildings manually.

Play Sudden Death mode, and don't hit any of his primary buildings until everything else is gone.

To make everything harder, tell him the restriction you're placing on yourself, so he can exploit it better.
Compilers are like boyfriends, you miss a period and they go crazy on you.
ieatkids5
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States4628 Posts
August 07 2008 02:35 GMT
#19
Teach him to be better.
Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
August 07 2008 02:36 GMT
#20
flip your mouse over so you have to use your finger on the censor to move it and push it down to click.
UNFUCK YOURSELF
1 2 3 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 2m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 186
BRAT_OK 89
ProTech29
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 4645
Bisu 1831
Jaedong 684
Larva 564
GuemChi 431
BeSt 332
actioN 303
Light 287
Mini 180
Dewaltoss 156
[ Show more ]
Sacsri 128
Pusan 114
Soulkey 113
Sharp 111
Soma 90
Snow 75
hero 70
Rush 70
ToSsGirL 68
sSak 61
ZerO 55
Shuttle 50
Mong 50
Backho 50
ajuk12(nOOB) 46
Killer 46
Hyuk 44
Mind 41
sorry 36
Bale 32
GoRush 27
zelot 24
Hm[arnc] 21
Terrorterran 20
Free 20
Noble 17
Movie 15
SilentControl 8
Shinee 3
Hyun 0
Dota 2
Gorgc3385
XaKoH 463
XcaliburYe97
Counter-Strike
shoxiejesuss989
allub160
Other Games
Liquid`RaSZi1128
ceh9508
B2W.Neo467
crisheroes203
Pyrionflax182
Mew2King83
KnowMe45
ToD38
ZerO(Twitch)12
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 5
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos3887
• Stunt1478
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Invitational
1h 2m
Rex vs SHIN
Rex vs MaxPax
Rex vs ShoWTimE
SHIN vs ShoWTimE
MaxPax vs SHIN
MaxPax vs ShoWTimE
Replay Cast
13h 2m
The PondCast
23h 2m
WardiTV Invitational
1d 1h
Replay Cast
1d 13h
RongYI Cup
3 days
herO vs Maru
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Wardi Open
5 days
Monday Night Weeklies
5 days
[ Show More ]
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-02-02
HSC XXVIII
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Acropolis #4 - TS4
Rongyi Cup S3
Nations Cup 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W7
Escore Tournament S1: W8
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.