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arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
May 22 2008 21:21 GMT
#1
So ive been massing on iccup recently and what ive encountered is,in the last 20 games ive played (against people i dont know) all but one of these have been protoss..

Why does everyone play them? Is it just because they are so noob friendly? Im really getting tired of playing them and losing to the same bullshit

HAHA SURPRISE CARRIERS LOLOLOL11!!1!!..

Am in the only one who has this problem?

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Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
YPang
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States4024 Posts
May 22 2008 21:24 GMT
#2
LOL! no i'm in the same boat as you... unfortunatly.
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demonic_phate
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States442 Posts
May 22 2008 21:27 GMT
#3
rofl.... noob friendly?
may I direct you to iNc/nony's terran rants? :D
BusyP
ahole-surprise
Profile Joined August 2007
United States813 Posts
May 22 2008 21:28 GMT
#4
On May 23 2008 06:27 demonic_phate wrote:
rofl.... noob friendly?
may I direct you to iNc/nony's terran rants? :D


Uh, nowhere in their rants do they say Terran is noob friendly. They complain about Terran play at high levels.
Protoss is noob friendly.
Pulp can move, baby!
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-22 21:35:17
May 22 2008 21:32 GMT
#5
On May 23 2008 06:28 ahole-surprise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2008 06:27 demonic_phate wrote:
rofl.... noob friendly?
may I direct you to iNc/nony's terran rants? :D


Uh, nowhere in their rants do they say Terran is noob friendly. They complain about Terran play at high levels.
Protoss is noob friendly.


QFT

EDIT : im seriously 1-9 vs protoss in my last 10 games..the one game i won he had like 50 apm and didnt make very much..
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5542 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-22 21:40:25
May 22 2008 21:36 GMT
#6
"Im really getting tired of playing them and losing to the same bullshit"

You obviously need more practice.
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
May 22 2008 21:38 GMT
#7
On May 23 2008 06:24 YanGpaN wrote:
LOL! no i'm in the same boat as you... unfortunatly.


wtf onions lol
Your name reminded me of Yangpa[Shield], who handed my ass to me yesterday :-(

And to the OP, it's cause Protoss are sexy!
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
May 22 2008 21:39 GMT
#8
On May 23 2008 06:36 jimminy_kriket wrote:
"Im really getting tired of playing them and losing to the same bullshit"

You obviously need more practice.


Not going to argue,but the main point is almost EVERY game ive played has been against protoss..

its just tiring playing them over..and over..and over..
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5542 Posts
May 22 2008 21:39 GMT
#9
On May 23 2008 06:39 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2008 06:36 jimminy_kriket wrote:
"Im really getting tired of playing them and losing to the same bullshit"

You obviously need more practice.


Not going to argue,but the main point is almost EVERY game ive played has been against protoss..

its just tiring playing them over..and over..and over..

Just stick with it, eventually you should be able to crush any protoss in your way.
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
May 22 2008 21:47 GMT
#10
1v1 motw no toss!
Demoninja
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States1190 Posts
May 22 2008 21:48 GMT
#11
He's not trying to start an argument, he's pointing out the truth. You were complaining about repeatedly losing to the same strat, therefore you need to practice more.
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-22 22:02:22
May 22 2008 22:00 GMT
#12
Ask teamliquid for some help, post some replays and ask for advice on how to counter said protoss builds, I'm sure there are lots of people with the same struggles, so you won't only be helping yourself out, but other said people as well.

A general tip is to scout more/ maybe earlier, and defend a bit more liberally, because you can win in the mid game, if they are just playing for the all in.

Since you said carriers. . . Im gonna assume PvT, Get your academy relatively fast, and scan his base just to keep an eye out for carriers; you learn where is a good place to scan after a few games. A mid game drop is pretty viable, and it let's you see his tech that way as well, if you're not confortable with scanners; Also i think it's common for people to hotkey their scanners to 9,0.

Perhaps you need to change your style, it seems you are turtling and toss is just taking advantage of that, try going for a 6fact timing push then expanding, or something? just to test the waters; obviously if toss went carriers, you'll win because of his lack of ground units

I play Z. I got steamrolled by a toss that went 3gate archon, because he kept only 2 zlots and 1 goon covering ramp, so i suspected either a sair reaver or storm's etc. Not once did it occur to me that he was actually preparing for an all in. I lost. It was frustrating, but i knew what i had done wrong, and now i have another mindset to work with.

+ Show Spoiler +
I asked him for re and after a couple of failed proxy 2 gate attempts he tried to play straight up, and now we're 3-1 :D


All starcraft races are balanced. There is no "newb" friendly aspect of any race, sure zealots are very easy to handle have lots of hp, so are tanks, so are ultralisks. Just keep an open mind and try to understand why you lost, rather than blame something else.
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
Ancestral
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3230 Posts
May 22 2008 22:03 GMT
#13
I wonder why everyone plays P too, I know it's because they're "n00b" friendly supposedly, but I'm actually nearly as good with Terran, and I decided to play Protoss in 1999 when I was a little kid. Of course I found out about progaming about 1 year ago, and just picked up with the same race so I'm 20 times better than I was then.

But if I just found out about the game now, I'm not sure I'd pick Protoss. I hate being "unoriginal" but I also really like the race ... sorry everyone for adding to the problem!
The Nature and purpose of the martial way are universal; all selfish desires must be roasted in the tempering fires of hard training. - Masutatsu Oyama
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
May 22 2008 22:04 GMT
#14
A good thing to do is to learn how to micro golaiths. Most Protoss tend to do a combined attack involving carriers, DTs, Zeals, and maybe maybe maybe some HTs mixed in with like 3 goons. Forget tanks, just make Vultures and Gols, and +3 Gols will rape the carriers. Flank the carriers, do the move-and-shoot micro, scan a lot, emp the carriers, and gg
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
ZhenMiChan
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Netherlands1181 Posts
May 22 2008 22:06 GMT
#15
A few less protoss would be great!
Studying Chinese~
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
May 22 2008 22:11 GMT
#16
On May 23 2008 07:04 Caller wrote:
A good thing to do is to learn how to micro golaiths. Most Protoss tend to do a combined attack involving carriers, DTs, Zeals, and maybe maybe maybe some HTs mixed in with like 3 goons. Forget tanks, just make Vultures and Gols, and +3 Gols will rape the carriers. Flank the carriers, do the move-and-shoot micro, scan a lot, emp the carriers, and gg


Where are these said toss'es i wanna play them
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
May 22 2008 22:18 GMT
#17
Ill post a replay of the next protoss i play..though i usually try what i saw brat do on TSL with the 4 factorys into 6 etc..

Replay will be up when i play next.
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
May 22 2008 22:39 GMT
#18
Toss is easiest race because it's the easiest to macro and micro. Terran armies have a lot of things to do - siege, lay mines, stim, scan, etc. Zerg armies are very large and involve swarm, burrow, etc. Protoss suffers from neither of those, and the only thing their army needs to do is storm. (Well, build scarabs/interceptors, but that's easy spamming). It does not need to worry about building depots as much as Terran, for workers can build all at once and Protoss units don't build as fast. Nor does it have the problem of balancing military unit production and workers like Zerg.
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
kyjori
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
371 Posts
May 22 2008 22:39 GMT
#19
On May 23 2008 07:04 Caller wrote:
A good thing to do is to learn how to micro golaiths. Most Protoss tend to do a combined attack involving carriers, DTs, Zeals, and maybe maybe maybe some HTs mixed in with like 3 goons. Forget tanks, just make Vultures and Gols, and +3 Gols will rape the carriers. Flank the carriers, do the move-and-shoot micro, scan a lot, emp the carriers, and gg


fuck carriers man, steam roll them with pure land~~ BE A MAN~~~~~

flank terran army as they come out with goons/zlots/temps and watch metal melt~~~

but yeah, originally a toss user but have been playing terran more. PvP gets old at times, it is fun to play other matchups.
Equinox_kr
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States7395 Posts
May 22 2008 22:52 GMT
#20
SURPRISE ARBITERS! :D
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