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Things i don't understand in SC

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YPang
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States4024 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-19 02:47:53
February 19 2008 02:44 GMT
#1
-I don't get how savior says longinus is a terran map in ZvT, i mean zergs need to get 4 gases to fully pump out ultras, and longinus perfectly supports that with the higher ground expo with a small choke. It is easy to defend and gives zergs an easy 4 gas cuz of 2 gas on that higher ground. Plus the ramps can delay much more time for mnm+tanks to go across when lurkers are there.

-I don't get why Terran has higher win ratio on python vs P. It makes terran fully predictable after they FE, it almost always comes with a 6 factory push out. Plus Their 2nd nat is somewhat harder to take than other maps like tau and longinus.

-I don't understand why terrans don't abuse that bridge which is close to toss's 2nd nat on Tau Cross. as soon as tanks and vultures are there that expo is dead, i've won so many games because of that xD.

-I don't get how progamers can play 40 games a day like once said in an darkelf interview, after like 10 games i think you start playing without thinking much, and like its a daily routine. I don't think people would improve if they played SC like a daily routine and never thought of changes to do when playing 40 games of the SAME match up. I once tried to mass games and yeah i've stated it before like after 2.5 hours my brain just froze and arms moved like it was programmed i never made a single thought that is just mindless mass gaming. I tried to change things but it just didn't work. Maybe its just me... :/

-I don't get why people maphack or cheat in anyway, i've tried it before while like 3 years ago when i played only fastest map possible, and it really takes victory's feeling away, and makes the game dull. It may make people think i'm gosu, but deep inside i know i didn't really win and i don't think its worth it for getting noticed for something i didn't do. Its like getting a metal for winning a race when infact you put sleeping pills in every other contestant's meal before the race... okay maybe not..

-I don't know if people who are around C level actually feel slumps or if its the people around them just getting better. I mean i understand in progaming that the progamers have definate slumps and gets worse than before because one simple mistake can cost them the game. But at lower levels where one mistake won't kill you, and where there are still plenty of room to improve i wonder if its still possible for those people to experience slumps in which they were better like a month or two ago than now.

-I don't know whats going on in the people's mind who always says "STFU stop crying over about a game" Its not like i complain a lot after losses or am I an super addict of starcraft. But i really think those people should consider that many guys who visit these forums have once thought of being progamer or very known in the foreign scene before xD.

-I don't understand how big SC is in korea, i know if i ask some random 20 year old guy in korea about SC they would know it. But what about 40-60 year old people will they know what SC is? would they view it as a negative or positive light on their country?


PS: This isn't related to starcraft, but how did the word chink came about? I'm chinese i'm not offended by it just wonder how that came about after reading rekrul's comment on the ascension group 2 forum.

Thanks in advance for making me less ignorant!

sMi.Gladstone | BW: B high| SC2: gold T_T
Blind
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States2529 Posts
February 19 2008 03:00 GMT
#2
Not sure on this, but on your Longinus point, Savior might have been talking about the old version of Longinus. In the old version, the cliff expansions only had 1 gas.
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