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Yes, at this very moment, I am drunk.
I love alcohol 99% of the time. There are perhaps 3 occasions that I've regretted drinking. 2 of them involve blackouts and reports/splintered and fading memories of unprotected sex. The third involves adding acetaminophen into the mix and suffering a panic attack as a result (worrying about sudden liver failure followed shortly by death). I'm sure I've gotten drunk at least 300 times, so this is a good ratio for me. If you enjoy something 99% of the time, you're gonna do it as often as it's responsible to pursue it. Hell, I don't think I have 99% enjoyment ratio with any other activity I've attempted, including sex.
Alcohol numbs pain, removes social inhibitions I've developed, makes it easier for me to go to sleep (insomnia sucks), and in general makes me a happy person. And it doesn't hurt that hangovers are rare for me, and vomiting is nearly unheard of.
Alcohol makes me the type of person I would've been had I not experienced the trauma and resultant emotional disorders I have. Fuck, I'm actually more articulate when I'm drunk than when I'm not! Tell me what the hell that means.... I think it means I have mental blocks caused by irrational, subconscious fears and learned behaviors.
I get the distinct impression that alcohol is supposed to be something you're meant to avoid. A vice that should cause you enormous grief and embarrassment. When I tell people I'm drinking alone, they seem to express disappointment and pity. Fuckers, pity me when I'm not drunk, because that's when I'm miserable; that's when I'm petrified by irrational fears that prevent me from pursuing a social life, expressing ambition, taking care of my physical health, or leaving the fucking house.
Am I an alcoholic? I know for a fact I'm not physically addicted. But what about emotional dependence? Maybe.
Dr. Drew, the celebrity addiction specialist, defines the moment of addiction as that point where use or abuse of a substance begins to negatively affect your life and the lives of those around you. If this is a good working-definition, sobriety is my addiction, and alcohol is my naltrexone.
Anywho... I feel good right now. Have a good day, person what is reading this.
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if your using alcohol to dodge real life, then yes, you have a problem
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You missed the point. I dodge real life when I'm sober. When I'm drunk, I embrace it.
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But you cant ever have a career, family, life? It will consume you, and cause you to die early. They dont give new livers to alcoholics oO
edit: changed die young to die early, you're almost 30 . Oh well, on that note, since you're 1/2 through life at 28~, Have you accomplished all that you wanted to do? Since your consuming so much alcohol, you can easily say you're at 1/2 or over. Have you been able to have children and show them everything youve wanted to show them? Had a wife and a home? What about all the cars and toys you've wanted to have, or hobbies like making furniture or things with your hands? I dunno, i just cant imagine not having all of that... I know there was a point in my life when i didnt, but now, I know i couldnt...
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Well, I'm already 29 so if I do die from it, I won't be too young. I have a meager career (though I'm more ambitious about pursuing passions when I'm drunk), don't want a family, and my life (you mean social life?) only seems to progress when I'm drunk... soooo....
I'm considering drinking more often. Upon reflection, the happiest years of my life were when I was in college, drinking ~ once every three days. After I got out of college I continued drinking on the weekends until the acetaminophen experience, and then I quit for about 2 years. The last month or so, however, I've been drinking about twice a week, and I have to admit to myself, I've been happier generally, which is what inspired this blog.
It does interest me that the immediate reaction from this community has been 2 attempts to convince me that conventional wisdom applies and I have a serious problem. I don't buy it, but it's interesting.
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drinking with no vomit or even hangover???
wow this is insane not sure if it's good or bad but if it works for you thn I seriously can't find a good reason for you to make you stop it. gl
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wtf is TLDR i see it everywhere
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2 times a week isnt much of a problem yet though... if u start drinking on a daily basis, thats where ur live will go downward rapidly. ur problem isnt the drinking (yet), its ur psychic problems. If you feel worse when ur sober it means u got some pretty serious problems going on. If u feel better on drugs it will only be a matter of time until ur completely addicted. Go get a therapy and eventually you won't feel worse when ur sober than when ur drunk.
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It's still a pretty fucked up situation if you need alcohol to embrace what life offers.
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Too Long Didn't Read.
Its a fast way to say you don't give a fuck about the person posting or the subtleties of his/her points, but you read the title and think you have an opinion anyway.
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Zurich15247 Posts
Pursuing a career and heavy drinking is absolutely possible. Heck, statistically, your career chances are lower if you don't drink.
I think the question here is what you define as being drunk? Do you drink 2 or 3 times a week until you pass out? Or just moderately until you get that good feeling you describe?
I myself drink virtually daily. But I limit this to 2 or 3 glasses of Scotch at night (total cliche, I know) with heavy drinking on weekends. I don't see how that affects my (so far very successful) career in any way. And I know a lot of young single professionals like me. And the ones who don't drink usually are the insecure, unhappy or just plain weird ones.
Oh, and some people just don't throw up that easily. And hangovers are mostly manageable with the right diet.
Not to say I didn't regret drinking a lot of times. I lost a tooth crashing my bike when I was totally hammered. Do not drink and drive kids, seriously.
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I don't plan on drinking everyday. I tried it once for about a week back in college and then I did experience some really bad hangovers, which I didn't enjoy. Drinking nightly isn't something I crave.
Everyone that drinks/does drugs, does it to feel better. People might say their sober life is fine, but there'd be no impetus to spend money on substances that change your state of mind if it didn't make things better or more interesting. Of course addicted people will on occasion damage their life to continue their use of a substance, but as yet that doesn't apply to me.
I used to go to a therapist. He helped me a little bit, but after a while he gave up on unassisted therapy and proscribed me Paxil, a mildly addictive substance that's classified as an anti-depressant. I took it daily for six months, the effects were minor, it changed my personality a bit, making me more social, but the withdrawal symptoms sucked ass when I decided to stop taking it and it killed my sex drive. The only advantage it had over alcohol is that I could work/drive while using it. In all other ways, alcohol is better, and I can't use both (paxil can cause serious health problems when mixed with alcohol).
I know its technically more addictive, but I really don't see alcohol as any more dangerous than marijuana. And it's a lot less likely I'll lose my job because I use it.
On February 10 2008 20:49 zatic wrote: I think the question here is what you define as being drunk? Do you drink 2 or 3 times a week until you pass out? Or just moderately until you get that good feeling you describe?
I only drink 'til I pass out if I'm at a friend's house, there's a party, and they don't mind that I'm crashing there. Otherwise I drink until I feel good, then I switch to water and rehydrate. This is especially true when I do solitary drinking. There's no reason to overdo it if you're alone.
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In my opinion you are taking the great road of alcoholism, read some articles about aloholics, they all talk about the fact they began to drink every week then twice then it really FASTLY became uncontrolable. Usually it happens when they were in your situtation (like being drunk twice a week) and a big problem happened in their life which made em drink a lot mor. If u use to drink alone even once a week u should really consider this as a big problem. And btw if u feel always happier when drunk then it reveals a deeper problem, believe me. And also if u think alcohol is not dangerous for your health i guarentee u it is a LOT more thanu imagine , i know many doctors and they all said me alcohol damages are invisible during a long time but they are often huge , even for your people.
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You have to transform and rise from the ashes like the phoenix
Try turning your life upside down. Like if you just sit at home all day and drink, go to the gym and start eating healthy and ditch the alcohol
Seriously though, I know how hard it can be to feel better but the best thing you can do is always to do the stuff that scares you the most. Otherwise you are just living in a mental cage and things will get worse
Btw, Paxil or any other anti-depressant doesn't cause any health problems with alcohol. The reason doctors say that you should try to avoid drinking alcohol when being on medication is that it's not good to drink alcohol while being depressed
I've drank so much alcohol while being on anti-depressants and I've almost never got any weird effects from it
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On February 10 2008 21:03 Tadzio00 wrote:I don't plan on drinking everyday. I tried it once for about a week back in college and then I did experience some really bad hangovers, which I didn't enjoy. Drinking nightly isn't something I crave. Everyone that drinks/does drugs, does it to feel better. People might say their sober life is fine, but there'd be no impetus to spend money on substances that change your state of mind if it didn't make things better or more interesting. Of course addicted people will on occasion damage their life to continue their use of a substance, but as yet that doesn't apply to me. I used to go to a therapist. He helped me a little bit, but after a while he gave up on unassisted therapy and proscribed me Paxil, a mildly addictive substance that's classified as an anti-depressant. I took it daily for six months, the effects were minor, it changed my personality a bit, making me more social, but the withdrawal symptoms sucked ass when I decided to stop taking it and it killed my sex drive. The only advantage it had over alcohol is that I could work/drive while using it. In all other ways, alcohol is better, and I can't use both (paxil can cause serious health problems when mixed with alcohol). I know its technically more addictive, but I really don't see alcohol as any more dangerous than marijuana. And it's a lot less likely I'll lose my job because I use it. Show nested quote +On February 10 2008 20:49 zatic wrote: I think the question here is what you define as being drunk? Do you drink 2 or 3 times a week until you pass out? Or just moderately until you get that good feeling you describe?
I only drink 'til I pass out if I'm at a friend's house, there's a party, and they don't mind that I'm crashing there. Otherwise I drink until I feel good, then I switch to water and rehydrate. This is especially true when I do solitary drinking. There's no reason to overdo it if you're alone. trust me i know alcoholics and i know daily tokers, alcohol IS by far more destructive to you if ur addicted
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Don't give into it... I drink everyday and smoke weed everyday, because nothing else brings me happiness anymore, I can only enjoy life when I'm in an altered state of mind, I hate everything when I'm sober, and I'm only 18. Don't be like me.
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On February 10 2008 16:33 LumberJack wrote:But you cant ever have a career, family, life? It will consume you, and cause you to die early. They dont give new livers to alcoholics oO edit: changed die young to die early, you're almost 30 . Oh well, on that note, since you're 1/2 through life at 28~, Have you accomplished all that you wanted to do? Since your consuming so much alcohol, you can easily say you're at 1/2 or over. Have you been able to have children and show them everything youve wanted to show them? Had a wife and a home? What about all the cars and toys you've wanted to have, or hobbies like making furniture or things with your hands? I dunno, i just cant imagine not having all of that... I know there was a point in my life when i didnt, but now, I know i couldnt... You're such a fucking tool. Seriously.
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And tad. You're not an alcoholic. Alcoholics can't quit drinking for 2 years no matter how many panic attacks you have. However you are replacing a void in your life with alcohol. Because hey, it makes you feel good and helps you relax. Which is good. The thing is though, its like a crutch. Ideally you want to be able to feel good and relax WITHOUT alcohol. Its not a big deal like some of the people in this thread are making it out to be, but it is something to keep an eye on.
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On February 11 2008 00:00 fanatacist wrote: Don't give into it... I drink everyday and smoke weed everyday, because nothing else brings me happiness anymore, I can only enjoy life when I'm in an altered state of mind, I hate everything when I'm sober, and I'm only 18. Don't be like me. You most likely suffer from a lack of seratonin. Consider a SRI. Zoloft is one of them.
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On February 11 2008 00:18 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2008 00:00 fanatacist wrote: Don't give into it... I drink everyday and smoke weed everyday, because nothing else brings me happiness anymore, I can only enjoy life when I'm in an altered state of mind, I hate everything when I'm sober, and I'm only 18. Don't be like me. You most likely suffer from a lack of seratonin. Consider a SRI. Zoloft is one of them. I think I've tried those after seeing a friend who is a psychiatrist, they made me feel like shit, with huge swings from happiness and hyperactivity to fatigue. I'm sure there is a non-chemical solution to my problem, medicine is only supposed to make you feel good, not solve life's problems. Then again, neither does alcohol or weed. Thanks for your advice, though.
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its more of a habit then addiction. instead of coming home and go to the fridge for a beer, y not go to the gym and work out. its the habit u r trying to get rid its not addiction.
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On February 11 2008 00:56 Mnemosyne wrote: its more of a habit then addiction. instead of coming home and go to the fridge for a beer, y not go to the gym and work out. its the habit u r trying to get rid its not addiction. People DO get addicted to alcohol, I'm pretty sure. The body craves alcohol after a certain point.
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He's not addicted yet.
Drinkin solo (often atleast) will sure make you become one down the road though. When you say you drink by yourself, are you talking about a beer or two with dinner or watching a game? Or like 6+ beers, trying to get drunk? If the latter, then you've gotta chill out. Otherwise you're fine.
Drinking 2x a week isn't shit. Hell, it's surprising at 29 that you still do it that frequently. Most of the people I know that age can't handle it lol. Don't listen to any tight asses on here that tell you 2 x a week is alcoholism.
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On February 11 2008 00:18 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2008 00:00 fanatacist wrote: Don't give into it... I drink everyday and smoke weed everyday, because nothing else brings me happiness anymore, I can only enjoy life when I'm in an altered state of mind, I hate everything when I'm sober, and I'm only 18. Don't be like me. You most likely suffer from a lack of seratonin. Consider a SRI. Zoloft is one of them.
Who's the tool here?
Do you seriously think problems in life come down to serotonin? The issues that makes you feel bad will still be there no matter how much serotonin you get
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I think he was being sarcastic
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On February 11 2008 04:55 dancefayedance!~ wrote: I think he was being sarcastic I don't think so. I can see his point though, that some people who can't solve their own problems can just get the next best thing. It's just not for me.
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I don't think he was being sarcastic either.
Well fana, with that attitude you won't solve anything
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On February 11 2008 05:49 JensOfSweden wrote: I don't think he was being sarcastic either.
Well fana, with that attitude you won't solve anything Who said anyone was trying to solve anything xD? I'm trying to get retarded enough not to care/remember anymore.
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Yeah it's definately easier that way sometimes
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god dammit. i need to stop assuming everyone is just really witty
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On February 11 2008 04:47 JensOfSweden wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2008 00:18 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:On February 11 2008 00:00 fanatacist wrote: Don't give into it... I drink everyday and smoke weed everyday, because nothing else brings me happiness anymore, I can only enjoy life when I'm in an altered state of mind, I hate everything when I'm sober, and I'm only 18. Don't be like me. You most likely suffer from a lack of seratonin. Consider a SRI. Zoloft is one of them. Who's the tool here? Do you seriously think problems in life come down to serotonin? The issues that makes you feel bad will still be there no matter how much serotonin you get No problems in life don't come down to seratonin. But if you're "feeling angry all the time" then thats a TEXTBOOK SYMPTOM OF A LACK OF SERATONIN. Theres of course a lot more to it, but I'm not going to hold a therapist session on the TL.net forum. Don't critisize me on something you have no clue about.
Seratonin treatment isn't a "quick fix" or supposed to make everything better. It's simply 1 step toward getting out of depression. Theres a lot of personal work that goes into dealing with your own issues, but a lot of people find that when the brain has the proper levels of seratonin, its a LOT easier to do so. Some don't.
Did I ever say "All of life's problems come down to seratonin"? Read my fucking post. Don't put words in my mouth.
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Tadzio, it is really risky for you to try to "treat" your problems through alcohol. You are setting yourself up for a serious drug problem and many health problems related to that.
You seem to be saying you use alcohol to treat your anxiety and depression. The problem with this is that you aren't really addressing your problems, which are the anxiety and depression, and the traumas that caused the anxiety and depression. You are putting a band-aid on cancer, but even this analogy is poor, since I don't know of any horrible side effects of using band aids, whereas alcohol will likely increase your depression (strong correlation between alcohol use and depression) and anxiety (alcohol is known to increase anxiety in the long run, primarily when the high wears off).
Life is sometimes very difficult and painful. But difficult and painful experiences can make us stronger and wiser. But for that to happen, we have to face the difficulty and pain directly. In this way, you will learn to adapt. You will become wiser. You will be better able to cope in the future, and you will be better able to help others who face the difficulties you once faced.
Social anxiety is really common. Many people turn to alcohol and drugs to cope. But imagine, if you face your anxiety soberly, you will begin to adapt to nervousness and anxiety, and the anxiety will begin to subside. What was once difficult will then be easy. And your self esteem will be improved, because you know you overcame a difficulty, not relying on a crutch.
Alcohol use (and abuse) can be immensely pleasurable. Of course it is, or so many people would not turn to it. But don't confuse pleasure for health. Don't confuse pleasure with growth.
Try to face life directly and overcome your difficulties honestly.
Some things I recommend: 1) Daily exercise - I recommend the bicycle. 2) Daily sunshine on as much of your body as possible - but never burn. 3) Healthy diet of whole organic foods, including lots of raw seeds, nuts, fruits, and veges. Limit refined sugar and processed foods.
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On February 11 2008 13:01 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2008 04:47 JensOfSweden wrote:On February 11 2008 00:18 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:On February 11 2008 00:00 fanatacist wrote: Don't give into it... I drink everyday and smoke weed everyday, because nothing else brings me happiness anymore, I can only enjoy life when I'm in an altered state of mind, I hate everything when I'm sober, and I'm only 18. Don't be like me. You most likely suffer from a lack of seratonin. Consider a SRI. Zoloft is one of them. Who's the tool here? Do you seriously think problems in life come down to serotonin? The issues that makes you feel bad will still be there no matter how much serotonin you get No problems in life don't come down to seratonin. But if you're "feeling angry all the time" then thats a TEXTBOOK SYMPTOM OF A LACK OF SERATONIN. Theres of course a lot more to it, but I'm not going to hold a therapist session on the TL.net forum. Don't critisize me on something you have no clue about. Seratonin treatment isn't a "quick fix" or supposed to make everything better. It's simply 1 step toward getting out of depression. Theres a lot of personal work that goes into dealing with your own issues, but a lot of people find that when the brain has the proper levels of seratonin, its a LOT easier to do so. Some don't. Did I ever say "All of life's problems come down to seratonin"? Read my fucking post. Don't put words in my mouth.
Seriously now...let's say you dislike work alot and your girlfriend is yelling at you all the time, thus you feel angry.
Are you telling me the cure to this is to eat anti-depressants? No offense you but you are a fucking tool. I bet I know more about this than you do, so just stop assuming you are all-knowing or whatever
Yeah it is just that, a quick fix. I disagree with everything your post said
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What Inky said, he really nailed it.
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On February 12 2008 02:02 nA.Inky wrote:
Some things I recommend: 1) Daily exercise - I recommend the bicycle. 2) Daily sunshine on as much of your body as possible - but never burn. 3) Healthy diet of whole organic foods, including lots of raw seeds, nuts, fruits, and veges. Limit refined sugar and processed foods.
I agree with this, but if possible, I would also add to surround yourself with family and friends (unless of course you have some history with them that precludes this).
I suffer from anxiety disorder myself, and I feel much better when I'm around other people, as well as the things listed above. Regular sleep schedule, exercise, sunlight, diet, etc.
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