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geometryb
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States1249 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-08-23 03:15:55
August 16 2007 16:29 GMT
#1


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snes.tq
Profile Joined August 2007
United States46 Posts
August 16 2007 16:45 GMT
#2
Funny that because they are making SC2 more like War3+cnc that we go try out those games and see how shity they really are. Mite as well get used to the shityness.
http://entropyzero.org/
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
August 16 2007 17:06 GMT
#3
hey dotas not that bad to be honest
haha
gets quite intense at times if you understand whats happening
Graphicssavior[gm] : What is a “yawn” rape ;; Masumune - It was the year of the pig for those fucking defilers. Chill - A clinic you say? okum: SC without Korean yelling is like porn without sex. konamix: HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOMMY!
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
August 16 2007 17:22 GMT
#4
Funny, I thought Warcraft 3 was slower. Games end faster usually, but there's so much mundane stuff you have to do (ie, creeping) and you're constricted by upkeep, etc. Stuff usually snowballs in Starcraft pretty quickly.
geometryb
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States1249 Posts
August 16 2007 17:24 GMT
#5
i guess by pace, i mean you get units faster and sooner and you have to attack sooner also
Equinox_kr
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States7395 Posts
August 16 2007 17:42 GMT
#6
That's somewhat true, although sometimes when I play (my main race is Night Elf) I just get my DH as soon as possible and just go to ToA just so I can get Dryads as fast as humanly possible.

I'm sorry to hear you don't like War3 that much, but it's a different game. The style of play is not supposed to be the same as BW.

But when you really see how the game's played (like you learn unit counters and BOs and stuff) you get to see some crazy shit people pull on each other (go on YouTube and see how Moon beat Zacard 3-0 :O mass Cyclone FTW; he had like literally no army and he won)

And alffla's post about DotA is true; if you see higher-level games they get crazayyyy ^^
^-^
Wizard
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Poland5055 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-08-16 18:17:29
August 16 2007 18:16 GMT
#7
The thing is DotA is pretty cool, but WC3 like you said is too centered around the heroes. In my opinion, it would be SO much more fun (I don't know if it's possible) if there was no creeping: level 1 heroes with a small army against another level 1 hero and a small army. The obvious problem is the balancing of the heroes...I think creeping slows the game down + I don't want to be fighting an AI, but the actual opponent, but oh well. -__-
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Auspicious
Profile Joined August 2007
United States175 Posts
August 16 2007 18:26 GMT
#8
On August 17 2007 03:16 Wizard[pl] wrote:
The thing is DotA is pretty cool, but WC3 like you said is too centered around the heroes. In my opinion, it would be SO much more fun (I don't know if it's possible) if there was no creeping: level 1 heroes with a small army against another level 1 hero and a small army. The obvious problem is the balancing of the heroes...I think creeping slows the game down + I don't want to be fighting an AI, but the actual opponent, but oh well. -__-


. . . . . . . .what do you play, DOTA with computers or something?
You don't fuck around with the infinite.
Wizard
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Poland5055 Posts
August 16 2007 18:49 GMT
#9
This is the third thread in which you have misread my post. -_-;;; I was talking about WC3, see::

The thing is DotA is pretty cool, but WC3 like you said is too centered around the heroes. In my opinion, it would be SO....


As you can see I mentioned DotA at the beginning, and THEN, I started talking about WC3 for the rest of the post
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Auspicious
Profile Joined August 2007
United States175 Posts
August 16 2007 20:10 GMT
#10
On August 17 2007 03:49 Wizard[pl] wrote:
This is the third thread in which you have misread my post. -_-;;; I was talking about WC3, see::

Show nested quote +
The thing is DotA is pretty cool, but WC3 like you said is too centered around the heroes. In my opinion, it would be SO....


As you can see I mentioned DotA at the beginning, and THEN, I started talking about WC3 for the rest of the post


I didn't misread your post, you weren't clear.
You don't fuck around with the infinite.
Wizard
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Poland5055 Posts
August 16 2007 20:27 GMT
#11
O rly...even I wasn't 100% clear, then instead of jumping to conclusions and posting, maybe you could have perhaps, thought about it? Maybe if you gave it a minute, you'd figure it out...
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rpf
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States2705 Posts
August 16 2007 20:42 GMT
#12
WC3 melee is incredibly boring, but DotA I think you should try again. It's a lot of fun once you get to know some things. Once you learn most of the items, and learn a few heroes, it's pretty fun.
"A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." - Sigmund Freud
Aepplet
Profile Joined December 2003
Sweden2908 Posts
August 16 2007 21:13 GMT
#13
i'd say wc3 suffers more from being imbalanced than boring.
snes.tq
Profile Joined August 2007
United States46 Posts
August 16 2007 21:32 GMT
#14
On August 17 2007 05:10 Auspicious wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2007 03:49 Wizard[pl] wrote:
This is the third thread in which you have misread my post. -_-;;; I was talking about WC3, see::

The thing is DotA is pretty cool, but WC3 like you said is too centered around the heroes. In my opinion, it would be SO....


As you can see I mentioned DotA at the beginning, and THEN, I started talking about WC3 for the rest of the post


I didn't misread your post, you weren't clear.


All he saw was DOTA lol
http://entropyzero.org/
useLess
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States4781 Posts
August 16 2007 23:38 GMT
#15
I downloaded a rip, and I didnt even bother with the campaigns or online play. I went straight to single-player RPGs, of which there were only a few good ones. I really like the customization on hero creation; I hope they at least include something like that in SC2 for the mapmaking community.
Moonlight Shadow
zoLo
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States5896 Posts
August 17 2007 01:15 GMT
#16
WC3 is an ok game, but I get so mad when I lose because it's always either Night Elves or getting tower rushed. DotA has to be the worst custom game ever and so many people play it. I get bored of it with 1 game. I do like the Warcraft story though and the single player campaigns are fun.
CustomXSpunjah
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1093 Posts
August 17 2007 02:39 GMT
#17
On August 17 2007 06:13 Aepplet wrote:
i'd say wc3 suffers more from being imbalanced than boring.


yep. at gosugamers nobody ever bets on the humans (i think thats the race that sucks) just because you start off at a huge ass disadvantage
beware, the rise of the Protoss is upon us!
Equinox_kr
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States7395 Posts
August 17 2007 03:46 GMT
#18
On August 17 2007 11:39 CustomXSpunjah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2007 06:13 Aepplet wrote:
i'd say wc3 suffers more from being imbalanced than boring.


yep. at gosugamers nobody ever bets on the humans (i think thats the race that sucks) just because you start off at a huge ass disadvantage


Not really ... HU allows for the easiest FE; just grab 5 Peasants, 3 Footmen, and an Archmage with WE and just creep your nearest empty gold mine; then build a Town Hall with 5 guys and turtle with your army until you get like 30,000 Towers in there and then go Rifle+Caster or something and pwn everything -__-
^-^
Falcynn
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3597 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-08-17 04:22:56
August 17 2007 04:21 GMT
#19
WC3 and DotA are the kind of games that usually have to grow on you (unlike SC which sucks you in from the start). In general most people I know that enjoy those games including myself start out thinking "holy shit this game sucks ass" to "meh...this game's boring" to "ehhh...I can tolerate this" until finally
zoLo
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States5896 Posts
August 17 2007 04:51 GMT
#20
On August 17 2007 12:46 Equinox_kr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2007 11:39 CustomXSpunjah wrote:
On August 17 2007 06:13 Aepplet wrote:
i'd say wc3 suffers more from being imbalanced than boring.


yep. at gosugamers nobody ever bets on the humans (i think thats the race that sucks) just because you start off at a huge ass disadvantage


Not really ... HU allows for the easiest FE; just grab 5 Peasants, 3 Footmen, and an Archmage with WE and just creep your nearest empty gold mine; then build a Town Hall with 5 guys and turtle with your army until you get like 30,000 Towers in there and then go Rifle+Caster or something and pwn everything -__-


Undead is the weakest race...


lol that DotA song and all of basshunter's songs are catchy.
Wizard
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Poland5055 Posts
August 17 2007 06:04 GMT
#21
No, Orc is the weakest race...

No wait, I think it's NE

No must be HU

Ah, got it, it's actually Undead!

-__-;;;to be honest this kind of talk is irrelevant at our level. Similarly to SC progaming->toss, WC3 progaming->Orc. Orc has been seen as the weakest race at the higher levels for quite some time, and there are not that many good orc players aside from Lyn and grubby. Undead is like mastered by the koreans: zacard, sweet, FoV, etc...
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alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
August 17 2007 08:40 GMT
#22
On August 17 2007 12:46 Equinox_kr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2007 11:39 CustomXSpunjah wrote:
On August 17 2007 06:13 Aepplet wrote:
i'd say wc3 suffers more from being imbalanced than boring.


yep. at gosugamers nobody ever bets on the humans (i think thats the race that sucks) just because you start off at a huge ass disadvantage


Not really ... HU allows for the easiest FE; just grab 5 Peasants, 3 Footmen, and an Archmage with WE and just creep your nearest empty gold mine; then build a Town Hall with 5 guys and turtle with your army until you get like 30,000 Towers in there and then go Rifle+Caster or something and pwn everything -__-


wtf thats FEing in wc3? lol sc FE is ilke what 14scvs and build a cc. or 12 drones. or 13-14 probes.

no military ftw xd
Graphicssavior[gm] : What is a “yawn” rape ;; Masumune - It was the year of the pig for those fucking defilers. Chill - A clinic you say? okum: SC without Korean yelling is like porn without sex. konamix: HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOMMY!
Woyn
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United Kingdom1628 Posts
August 17 2007 09:16 GMT
#23
On August 17 2007 17:40 alffla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2007 12:46 Equinox_kr wrote:
On August 17 2007 11:39 CustomXSpunjah wrote:
On August 17 2007 06:13 Aepplet wrote:
i'd say wc3 suffers more from being imbalanced than boring.


yep. at gosugamers nobody ever bets on the humans (i think thats the race that sucks) just because you start off at a huge ass disadvantage


Not really ... HU allows for the easiest FE; just grab 5 Peasants, 3 Footmen, and an Archmage with WE and just creep your nearest empty gold mine; then build a Town Hall with 5 guys and turtle with your army until you get like 30,000 Towers in there and then go Rifle+Caster or something and pwn everything -__-


wtf thats FEing in wc3? lol sc FE is ilke what 14scvs and build a cc. or 12 drones. or 13-14 probes.

no military ftw xd


Heroes come out early and so if you FE without any units they are just gonna come cancel it and you can't stop it. Plus unless you're NE you can't clear the mine without units
zoLo
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States5896 Posts
August 18 2007 03:53 GMT
#24
On August 17 2007 15:04 Wizard[pl] wrote:
No, Orc is the weakest race...

No wait, I think it's NE

No must be HU

Ah, got it, it's actually Undead!

-__-;;;to be honest this kind of talk is irrelevant at our level. Similarly to SC progaming->toss, WC3 progaming->Orc. Orc has been seen as the weakest race at the higher levels for quite some time, and there are not that many good orc players aside from Lyn and grubby. Undead is like mastered by the koreans: zacard, sweet, FoV, etc...


Zacard plays Orc and Orc isn't the weakest race since Grubby and Lyn have been doing well. And like I said, Undead is the weakest at the moment. Players such as GoStop and Lucifer hasn't been doing well lately. And Koreans aren't that dominant in WC3 like in SC.
Nocturne
Profile Joined July 2007
Korea (South)155 Posts
August 18 2007 06:16 GMT
#25
hmm, i think it's a general consensus that since Orc isn't very well represented in the higher leagues, with the exception of the few players mentioned, it is considered the weakest

but again, what you're saying is that the weakest is really relative right? depends on how well people are doing at the time heh
FireBlast!
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United Kingdom5251 Posts
August 18 2007 13:50 GMT
#26
Undead and Orc have never been weak, theyre just least played. In a game with four races its hard to have perfect balance but at the moment it's pretty good.
Victoria Concordia Crescit
Gokey
Profile Joined November 2006
United States2722 Posts
August 20 2007 20:44 GMT
#27
creeping ruined it for me for wc3... it was genuinely not fun and was more of a chore than anything
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