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Canada7170 Posts
Well no spoilers from me as of yet. But this entry certainly will do so, so turn back now if you don't want to be spoiled.
But seriously, I spent all night reading it (watched Iris vs GGPlay soon after), and I was all "wtf" for a lot of the book.
For some reason, it didn't have the same zing as the rest of the books, and I found some parts to be quite lame.
Of course, there were brilliant moments of writing, but this book didn't quite have the quick wit and whimsical nature of the first six books.
Rowling certainly did a good job of tying up loose ends, but it still left something to be desired.
And what was with those last three words in the book? (Look them up, if you're done.) I love simplicity, but I think it could have at least been rephrased better to leave an impression; seeing as book finishes a series of phenomenal reknown.
As with the movies, Book 7 left me underwhelmed and mildly disappointed.
And for people that mistakenly clicked the blog link, the rest is in spoilers.
+ Show Spoiler +So what's the point of making new magical theories and "laws" in the 7th book? It was supposed to wrap things up; not add more confusion. Sure, the 6th book brought us Horcruxes, but it was obvious that those were planned from the start. We have the diary, the sword with basilisk venom playing a key role (both from CoS), Nagini, the locket (mentioned in OotP) and the diadem (I believe mentioned in OotP as well). The "Deathly Hallows" only seem to be mentioned in book one, but no one speculates why Harry has such a pwnage cloak. Rowling said it would be important, but who would have dreamed of this? It seems as if she bullshat the other two Hallows, as they have never been mentioned. It is as if Rowling planted the clues early on (PS/SS) such as Grindelwald, but the series did not go quite as planned. She had to pull back and get back on course for the 7th book to make sense. I believe she became too confident in her writing capability, and thought she could finish everything in 600 pages flat. But this element of magic (the Hallows) was not brilliantly foreshadowed by Rowling in any other books, as far as I can find. Two loose ends that piss me off: Firstly, in HBP, Snape shoots a red beam of light at Dumbledore. That was not Avada Kedavra (although he said it), as we know from its characteristic green flash. So we know that Snape did not truly want to kill Dumbledore (Moody mentions unforgivables in GoF). So how the hell did he do it?!? Next, what happened to everyone's families? Fuck their kids. How are their parents? Damn. "all was well". Could you get any more lame? How about "and the pain and suffering of all people, Muggle and Wizard alike, had finally ended. Harry's scar had not bothered him for 19 years, and so it was to remain." Would that really have been so hard? Lastly. What is with all this Elder Wand bullshit? Harry won his last battle simply because of the wand he was (or wasn't, really) using? Way to go, Potter. Brave. Courageous. Concerning deaths in the book: (I add yet another spoiler for dipshits that ventured this far) + Show Spoiler + Why did no one important die? It was way too perfect. Harry almost died (which would have been a good ending), Ron ran away initially (BUT DIDN'T DIE) and everyone was "an inch from death".
"Great evil comes at a cost. People will have to die." -JKR
She said this herself.
We lost Mad-Eye, Tonks, Lupin, Snape, and Fred (EDIT: Colin, Hedwig). No problem telling the twins apart now.
We should have lost (imo, obviously): Hagrid (He almost died at the beginning. I thought that would have been great.) Hermione or Ron (Or else it's too sappy) Mr or Mrs Weasley (Let's hit home a bit more during the epic fight) Another teacher we didn't hate so much (Snape's death was initially pleasing, until it turned out he was good after all. I called him being good btw.) McGonagall or Flitwick would have done nicely. Neville, Luna, Ernie, Cho or any of the DA except Ginny (I now understand why JKR kept Ron and Hermione; they had to have babies in her epilogue.)
So Book 7 didn't necessarily suck, but I was not as impressed as I have been in the past. Don't get me wrong. I am still a great fan of the HP books. (Movies can suck my dick.) I was just- "underwhelmed".
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maybe you just expected too much
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Canada7170 Posts
I expected the same quality of books as the other 6. (Well, 1 wasn't that good, but it was her first book after all.)
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I'm pretty sure you can kill someone without the killing curse. With a frail old man like Dumbledore, Snape might as well have said "renus failus" and given the same effect
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Guy fell off the tower. As long as that was achieved it doesn't really matter what he got hit with.
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I agree, someone important had to die, and the fact that no one died pissed me off So is the fact that draco wasn't in jail. He tried to kill harry AGAIN
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United States20661 Posts
I always thought it was green.
check copy?
What I'M wondering is how the hell Dumbley-dore beat up Grindley-wald if the big bad guy had the super invincibility beatstick.
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Canada7170 Posts
I've got the N. American version. A red beam of light hits Dumbledore, so I assume Snape didn't want to kill him (Moody mentions the class pointing wands at him and him only getting a nosebleed GoF). So did do it nonverbally?
And why bother mentioning nonverbal spells in HBP if they don't do anything in DH?
LR, I really don't know. That's one loose end that really needed to be explained.
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you can kill someone without the killing curse.. fred died....i think the non verbal bit was to cover for levicorpus... but heres my rant: the most anticipated duel in the history of the series... turned out less than epic. Harry basically TALKED voldy into submission.. like WTF. then they each fire 1 spell and voldy gets fucking owned???? the greatest dark wizard of all time, the terrifying he who must not be named typed fucking GG in 2 seconds? thats fucking bullshit there should have been at the very least and awesome battle.... though harry should have definatly died.... would have made the book a lot better.... that king's cross bullshit was utterly dumb... Personally, i think the chapter called the Prince's tale (i think) was very well done... and the epilogue can suck my balls for all i care... Albus Severus Potter... like serously?? come on thats sooo homo......
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Canada7170 Posts
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On July 21 2007 22:43 Monoxide wrote: the most anticipated duel in the history of the series... turned out less than epic. Harry basically TALKED voldy into submission.. like WTF. then they each fire 1 spell and voldy gets fucking owned???? the greatest dark wizard of all time, the terrifying he who must not be named typed fucking GG in 2 seconds? thats fucking bullshit there should have been at the very least and awesome battle....
that pretty much summarizes what I am feeling about the ending
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it would have been good if he gave up his life to end the war.. and someone else fucking owned the snake... but....harry didn't fuckign die.. that was stupid..ahhhhhhhhhh she should have just left it with the green light and it was all over bit.. fucking king's cross........ harry should have taken the train... and just moved on..
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On July 21 2007 22:43 Monoxide wrote: you can kill someone without the killing curse.. fred died....i think the non verbal bit was to cover for levicorpus... but heres my rant: the most anticipated duel in the history of the series... turned out less than epic. Harry basically TALKED voldy into submission.. like WTF. then they each fire 1 spell and voldy gets fucking owned???? the greatest dark wizard of all time, the terrifying he who must not be named typed fucking GG in 2 seconds? thats fucking bullshit there should have been at the very least and awesome battle.... though harry should have definatly died.... would have made the book a lot better.... that king's cross bullshit was utterly dumb... Personally, i think the chapter called the Prince's tale (i think) was very well done... and the epilogue can suck my balls for all i care... Albus Severus Potter... like serously?? come on thats sooo homo...... lolz, you're funny
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Ron/Hermione
But only two... WTF... It's the Weasley family, it should be like seven or even eight at least.
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
On July 21 2007 22:43 Monoxide wrote: you can kill someone without the killing curse.. fred died....i think the non verbal bit was to cover for levicorpus... but heres my rant: the most anticipated duel in the history of the series... turned out less than epic. Harry basically TALKED voldy into submission.. like WTF. then they each fire 1 spell and voldy gets fucking owned???? the greatest dark wizard of all time, the terrifying he who must not be named typed fucking GG in 2 seconds? thats fucking bullshit there should have been at the very least and awesome battle.... though harry should have definatly died.... would have made the book a lot better.... that king's cross bullshit was utterly dumb... Personally, i think the chapter called the Prince's tale (i think) was very well done... and the epilogue can suck my balls for all i care... Albus Severus Potter... like serously?? come on thats sooo homo......
yeah wtf right
it was lke AVADA KEDAVRA vs EXPELLIARMUS
WTF??! lol
KILLing curse vs disarming
disarming wins eZ GG NORE
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On July 21 2007 16:42 chiflutz wrote: Guy fell off the tower. As long as that was achieved it doesn't really matter what he got hit with.
Agreed... Snape could have stunned Dumbledore and the tower fall could kill anyone <_<
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missed that
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neville killed it with the gryffindor sword.. wtf reading comprehension? lol
oh and alffla, expelliarmus is harry's trademark spell. remember that's how he was singled out during the decoy action scene. it makes sense that harry's trademark spell would be one that is only meant to disarm -- to stop the violence without causing any harm
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I just thought was a little predictable.
+ Show Spoiler +Right when I read about the silver doe, I knew Snape was a good guy. I sorta just figured that he liked Lily and his patronus would be a doe. And how the hell did Neville get the sword, I thought griphook had it? Maybe I missed something..
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in the version of the book i have . Snape clearly says avada kedavra when he kills dumbledore..
now that i think about it. i have no idea how neville got the sword
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