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Pokemon Red Pt. 2 - Hitting the Gyms

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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
November 17 2018 17:46 GMT
#1
With 4 gym badges remaining, and the fighting dojo done, it was time to head to Sabrina's gym. The whole transportation with the devices was a bit annoying, but I managed to get to her eventually. I gotta say though, aside from Alakazam, I had a harder time with one of the other trainers in the gym who utilized 2 gastlies, and a haunter haha. Anyways, I decided to take on her with my Pidgeot, seeing as I was leveling everyone up at the same time:

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My Pidgeot swifted her Kadabra, Mr. Mine, and Venomoth in 1-2 hits easy. I didn't get any damage either, but I got poisoned along the way. Psybeam from Alakazam was ridiculous though. A hit was taking 1/3-1/2 or so with poison from my hp so I had to use 2 hyper's to heal, but 2 swifts and a quick attack later, and I ended up winning the fight.

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After this, I woke up, and caught Snorlax then made my way to the town that had the safari zone. I challenged the gym, and easily got through Koga using critic with Venasaur, despite going up against Pokemon where these moves were not effective. Felt like I was cheating haha.

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From there, I had some fun at the Safari Zone. I think this is one of the areas that I really missed in the second gen games, just the ability to go in, use something other than moves to catch pokemon. I missed a scyther which used to be a favourite pokemon of mine, but caught some others while I searched for the golden teeth, and secret house. I ended up finding them, got my HMs, and made my way to Cinnabar through the Seafoam islands.

I ended up teaching surf, and strength to Snorlax instead of Lapras (did teach Lapras surf though). What I'm wondering is why a pokemon like Snorlax can learn water, and fire moves too. He can also learn psybeam as well! Honestly, a Snorlax with water, fire, psybeam, and rest (or amnesia) would be really strong. Granted, might need to raise that special by quite a bit but combining all those moves+high hp+decent special, he'll be hard to knock off.

Anyways...
This next part was probably one of the frustrating parts of the game. I completely forget that I'll have to make it through the Seafoam islands to get to Cinnabar, so I had no repels with me. I figured I can make it through pretty easily, but it was more complex than I remembered. It wasn't even that, it was mostly that every couple of steps, I had a pokemon appear which was incredibly annoying, and made it harder to navigate. I eventually got to the lower level, and who else was waiting for me than this! :D

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Realizing that I finally found Articuno, and remembering that I never really caught him in Pokemon Yellow despite getting him down to red, and having him asleep, I saved the game, and decided to experiment to see just how strong Raichu would be against it.

I tried Thunder, hit a crit, and knocked it out! Reset!
I tried Thunderbolt, hit another crit, and knocked it out! Reset!
I decided to change course, hit two flashes since ice beam was shaving off a lot of hp, but I'm sure it has a high miss ratio too, then went in for mostly quick attacks. Basically, anything to take down it's hp slowly, and the closest to fainting. If you try to do it before a certain hp, it keeps missing, and you'll never catch it. After I believe two tries, I managed to do it, and caught it with the first ultra ball then!

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Cinnabar island was interesting. I dropped off my fossil then I went to the burned down lab. I completely forgot about it, was fun to navigate and read the experiment details. I kept hoping that I'll see Moltres there, but it wouldn't be that easy so I'll have to search around. I eventually found the key, leveled up some more, and went in to see Blaine for my 6th badge. I battled most trainers before I realized I could just answer questions right to preserve my strength. Regardless, a good leveling session.

Blaine wasn't anything special though, with my Raichu making short work of everyone using a combo of Thunder+Quick Attack. Even his Arcanine didn't do as much damage as I figured it would, being such a strong pokemon if I'm not mistaken. As you guys can see, I use a single pokemon for each gym battle. This has kept my pokemon all around the same level, which was around 51 at the time.

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With 7 gym badges, I needed 1 more so I headed to my hometown using surf, then made my way to face the final gym leader. I already knew who it was, and knew it'll be another walk in the park. This time, I used Venasaur to win all the other trainers, before I went in to face the leader of Team Rocket, Giovanni. The battle was pretty straightforward as Venasaur hard-countered everything he could throw at me. Through vine whip, and mega drain, I took out all his pokemon, and came through unscathed. My venasaur ended up at level 55 by the end, and I got my last badge!

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At this point, I have all my badges, and I can walk victory road, but I want to get fly first. I have an idea where I might be able to get it. I also want to get Zapdos, and Moltres then from there, I'm gonna head to victory road. No doubt that my rival is waiting for me, and he's going to have an Alakazam just to make life harder haha.

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Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Aveng3r
Profile Joined February 2012
United States2411 Posts
November 17 2018 18:21 GMT
#2
It seems that using only 3 really helped you through the game on account of levels, If memory serves my lineup was always several levels below the last gym leaders on account of spreading XP to all 6.

Intrested to see how the Elite 4 battles go for you, seems that Ice type moves are going to be a challenge right off the bat

How did you make it this far with your Venasaur still using vine whip? I think the base damage on that attack is less than tackle.
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MinscandBoo
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
252 Posts
November 18 2018 05:54 GMT
#3
On November 18 2018 03:21 Aveng3r wrote:
It seems that using only 3 really helped you through the game on account of levels, If memory serves my lineup was always several levels below the last gym leaders on account of spreading XP to all 6.

Intrested to see how the Elite 4 battles go for you, seems that Ice type moves are going to be a challenge right off the bat

How did you make it this far with your Venasaur still using vine whip? I think the base damage on that attack is less than tackle.


Base dmg is same as tackle, 100% accu vs 95% and gen I grass moves are special, which venu should have a higher score in than attack. only 10 pp on vine whip tho. and it gets type effectiveness (or not)
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Tchado
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Jordan1831 Posts
November 18 2018 08:24 GMT
#4
damn ! I miss playing pokemon red on my gameboy color and battling my friends.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44383 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-19 14:03:20
November 19 2018 14:00 GMT
#5
The whole transportation with the devices was a bit annoying


iirc (from 20 years ago?) you just take the teleporters directly above or below the one you spawn on in each room.

I want to get fly first. I have an idea where I might be able to get it.


Sounds like this is your first time playing and you don't want spoilers; enjoy! It's such a good game Who are your starting Pokemon currently?

Edit: I just read your Part 1 blog too, and it seems you've played it before
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
November 19 2018 21:07 GMT
#6
On November 18 2018 03:21 Aveng3r wrote:
It seems that using only 3 really helped you through the game on account of levels, If memory serves my lineup was always several levels below the last gym leaders on account of spreading XP to all 6.

Intrested to see how the Elite 4 battles go for you, seems that Ice type moves are going to be a challenge right off the bat

How did you make it this far with your Venasaur still using vine whip? I think the base damage on that attack is less than tackle.

Indeed. I think having to level only 3 meant that I was several levels higher than usual. I also have a decent moveset imo, and even though my knowledgable is lacking in regards to counters, I still remember enough to be able to get through.

Yes, ice moves are going to be my bane. My pidgeot and venasaur are going to get hit hard there, so I'm gonna work on leveling up my pikachu, and increasing its special too so it can help withstand. With thunder, and quick attack plus a higher special, I can hopefully take out pokemon that knows ice moves faster than they take it out.

As for vine whip, it seemed decent enough so I kept on using it. Being able to hit a crit even on pokemon that have resistance against it works wonders, meaning I can 1- to 2-shot pokemon that should ideally be resistance to whip lash.

Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
November 19 2018 21:11 GMT
#7
I just recently received the TM for metronome, and I won't lie to you guys, I'm tempted to teach it to one of my main three! Metronome is hands down my favourite move of the entire game series due its randomness. However, with only 3 pokemon, teaching a pokemon metronome atm is really risky, considering I still have the rival fight, and the elite 4 with Lance coming up hmm.

On November 19 2018 23:00 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
The whole transportation with the devices was a bit annoying


iirc (from 20 years ago?) you just take the teleporters directly above or below the one you spawn on in each room.

Show nested quote +
I want to get fly first. I have an idea where I might be able to get it.


Sounds like this is your first time playing and you don't want spoilers; enjoy! It's such a good game Who are your starting Pokemon currently?

Edit: I just read your Part 1 blog too, and it seems you've played it before

ya, except I just wanted to progress to Sabrina, and wasn't watching where I went haha.

yes, I've played pokemon yellow, blue, bits of red, crystal, and either silver or gold in the past so I'm quite familiar with the series, and such. Having said that, seeing as we're talking over a decade or so, I've forgotten a lot of other things too. As for starting, you probably saw in part 1, but I went with grass type to make things rougher haha.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44383 Posts
November 19 2018 22:01 GMT
#8
On November 20 2018 06:11 BigFan wrote:
I just recently received the TM for metronome, and I won't lie to you guys, I'm tempted to teach it to one of my main three! Metronome is hands down my favourite move of the entire game series due its randomness. However, with only 3 pokemon, teaching a pokemon metronome atm is really risky, considering I still have the rival fight, and the elite 4 with Lance coming up hmm.

Show nested quote +
On November 19 2018 23:00 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
The whole transportation with the devices was a bit annoying


iirc (from 20 years ago?) you just take the teleporters directly above or below the one you spawn on in each room.

I want to get fly first. I have an idea where I might be able to get it.


Sounds like this is your first time playing and you don't want spoilers; enjoy! It's such a good game Who are your starting Pokemon currently?

Edit: I just read your Part 1 blog too, and it seems you've played it before

ya, except I just wanted to progress to Sabrina, and wasn't watching where I went haha.

yes, I've played pokemon yellow, blue, bits of red, crystal, and either silver or gold in the past so I'm quite familiar with the series, and such. Having said that, seeing as we're talking over a decade or so, I've forgotten a lot of other things too. As for starting, you probably saw in part 1, but I went with grass type to make things rougher haha.


That's interesting to me. How is it tougher? Bulbasaur is the easiest starting Pokemon, as he hard-counters both Brock and Misty. Do you mean in the later stages of the game, if you don't catch and train additional strong Pokemon to round out a solid team?
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
November 20 2018 02:43 GMT
#9
I believe it's because it's rough to take on the first gym until you learn a grass type move. Other thing might be it's attack. I easily lost my first battle vs my rival's charmander even though it was mostly a scratch vs tackle battle with a growl thrown in for good measure. That would be my best guess, but otherwise, you're right. Once Bulbasaur learns the first grass move, it makes Brock, Misty, and the last gym much easier to deal with.

On November 18 2018 03:21 Aveng3r wrote:
How did you make it this far with your Venasaur still using vine whip? I think the base damage on that attack is less than tackle.

Correction, it's actually razor leaf, my bad. I had it in the picture in the last blog, but guess the name vine whip just stuck around haha.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
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